westhejobroni
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Post by westhejobroni on Nov 14, 2024 1:37:27 GMT -5
The problem is that people are forced to pay 60$ for them when some people just want to pick up a couple at a time. Not everyone can afford that price point. If we could buy them as single figures for 15$ a pop )60/4=15 then I believe they would move better. They also never should have been sold for 3.99 like mr.t. that just caused everyone to wait for cyber Monday which is exactly what is happening now. Best way to sell these out is to slowly lower the price as quantity dwindles like Ringside does. When you go from full price to 30-40% off people will just wait for the 2nd markdown when they are about 7€ a figure. It's a mess that creations created for themselves. They should also tell us production numbers. These should be limited to 3000 pieces based on how the smaller companies are doing on their sales. If that isn't enough for the factory to make them than r.i.p. there aren't 10,000 people collecting them so I believe overproduction is a big part of the problem with this line. I have a strong feeling they are producing under 3,000 figures a wave. I can't believe this is selling more than 1-2,000 absolute max Yeah Idk I think you may be underselling them. My brother sells the retro's broken down into single figures for the last 2 years. Has done most of his sales with the Orange card set and the Lawler/Paul Bearer New Gen set with all the figures selling from $20-30. Idk what the exact number is but I would imagine its more than 3000. Regardless I can't wait for the No Holds Barred set in early 25
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Post by kirk815 on Nov 14, 2024 2:55:05 GMT -5
The problem is that people are forced to pay 60$ for them when some people just want to pick up a couple at a time. Not everyone can afford that price point. If we could buy them as single figures for 15$ a pop )60/4=15 then I believe they would move better. They also never should have been sold for 3.99 like mr.t. that just caused everyone to wait for cyber Monday which is exactly what is happening now. Best way to sell these out is to slowly lower the price as quantity dwindles like Ringside does. When you go from full price to 30-40% off people will just wait for the 2nd markdown when they are about 7€ a figure. It's a mess that creations created for themselves. They should also tell us production numbers. These should be limited to 3000 pieces based on how the smaller companies are doing on their sales. If that isn't enough for the factory to make them than r.i.p. there aren't 10,000 people collecting them so I believe overproduction is a big part of the problem with this line. I have a strong feeling they are producing under 3,000 figures a wave. I can't believe this is selling more than 1-2,000 absolute max I believe Steve has said in the past that most figures have production runs of 5K-20K depending on the line and popularity. Obviously, that can vary and change, but i highly doubt they are producing less than the minimum of 5K. The NWO initial shipment was 5K (which sold out) and then there was an additional backorder run (I would imagine that was probably an additional 1-3K, which hasn't sold out yet unless RSC ordered more as stock got low). These are the only numbers that we can back into since RSC posted a pic of their initial NWO shipment. Everything else related to sales for this line is just speculation and strong feelings. forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/358385/wwe-retro-general-discussion?page=204
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mrh
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Post by mrh on Nov 14, 2024 4:06:32 GMT -5
I have a strong feeling they are producing under 3,000 figures a wave. I can't believe this is selling more than 1-2,000 absolute max I believe Steve has said in the past that most figures have production runs of 5K-20K depending on the line and popularity. Obviously, that can vary and change, but i highly doubt they are producing less than the minimum of 5K. The NWO initial shipment was 5K (which sold out) and then there was an additional backorder run (I would imagine that was probably an additional 1-3K, which hasn't sold out yet unless RSC ordered more as stock got low). These are the only numbers that we can back into since RSC posted a pic of their initial NWO shipment. Everything else related to sales for this line is just speculation and strong feelings. forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/358385/wwe-retro-general-discussion?page=204Fascinating. And we know for sure it was 10 figures a box?
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Post by @Chair.Shot on Nov 14, 2024 11:44:37 GMT -5
I believe Steve has said in the past that most figures have production runs of 5K-20K depending on the line and popularity. Obviously, that can vary and change, but i highly doubt they are producing less than the minimum of 5K. The NWO initial shipment was 5K (which sold out) and then there was an additional backorder run (I would imagine that was probably an additional 1-3K, which hasn't sold out yet unless RSC ordered more as stock got low). These are the only numbers that we can back into since RSC posted a pic of their initial NWO shipment. Everything else related to sales for this line is just speculation and strong feelings. forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/358385/wwe-retro-general-discussion?page=204Fascinating. And we know for sure it was 10 figures a box? Pretty sure it was 10 sets per box (so 4x10). Not trying to split hairs; just trying to make sure the math sounds correct across the board. But individually, that would be 10 of each figure per box, yes.
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Post by jasont on Nov 18, 2024 16:19:06 GMT -5
Does anyone know when the purple/pink ring is coming to MC?
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Post by nomorexclusives on Nov 18, 2024 18:46:19 GMT -5
I have a strong feeling they are producing under 3,000 figures a wave. I can't believe this is selling more than 1-2,000 absolute max I believe Steve has said in the past that most figures have production runs of 5K-20K depending on the line and popularity. Obviously, that can vary and change, but i highly doubt they are producing less than the minimum of 5K. The NWO initial shipment was 5K (which sold out) and then there was an additional backorder run (I would imagine that was probably an additional 1-3K, which hasn't sold out yet unless RSC ordered more as stock got low). These are the only numbers that we can back into since RSC posted a pic of their initial NWO shipment. Everything else related to sales for this line is just speculation and strong feelings. forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/358385/wwe-retro-general-discussion?page=204Good info. 20k is definitely overkill for these. 3-5k is the magic number.
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Post by mrh on Nov 18, 2024 22:49:16 GMT -5
Does anyone know when the purple/pink ring is coming to MC? They said it will come in the spring
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Nov 19, 2024 6:29:02 GMT -5
20k is definitely overkill for these. 3-5k is the magic number. Nah, 500 is the magic number to produce and they should cost no more than $7 each. They should also be six inches tall and use photorealistic headsculpts and every figure should have a PPV branded chair as an accessory, then it would be the most successful toy line of all time. And the characters should all be from the Sammartino era, with the occasional exception being a Bastion Booger or Damien Demento type, huge new gen stars who were robbed of a Hasbro figure - however, if they make those figures and I disagree with even one detail on them, the whole line should be shut down immediately and Mattel should just advertise one of the bootleg Hasbro WWF toymakers instead.
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Post by nomorexclusives on Nov 19, 2024 21:47:07 GMT -5
20k is definitely overkill for these. 3-5k is the magic number. Nah, 500 is the magic number to produce and they should cost no more than $7 each. They should also be six inches tall and use photorealistic headsculpts and every figure should have a PPV branded chair as an accessory, then it would be the most successful toy line of all time. And the characters should all be from the Sammartino era, with the occasional exception being a Bastion Booger or Damien Demento type, huge new gen stars who were robbed of a Hasbro figure - however, if they make those figures and I disagree with even one detail on them, the whole line should be shut down immediately and Mattel should just advertise one of the bootleg Hasbro WWF toymakers instead. Sounds like that line would maybe last a whole day!!
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Post by Hasbromaniac on Nov 20, 2024 14:41:30 GMT -5
Have an early rip factory sample en route, will post pics on Instagram once in hand.
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Post by cmbarnes10 on Nov 21, 2024 11:41:34 GMT -5
Just preordered the bloodline set from ringside. I'm excited for these ones
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Post by hulkjoegan on Nov 21, 2024 11:44:45 GMT -5
Just preordered the bloodline set from ringside. I'm excited for these ones How much did they cost? Think this’ll be the first set I don’t order.
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Post by @Chair.Shot on Nov 21, 2024 12:06:42 GMT -5
Just preordered the bloodline set from ringside. I'm excited for these ones How much did they cost? Think this’ll be the first set I don’t order. $54.99 + tax & shipping. You can save 5-10% depending upon codes. If you throw in an extra item for $5.01 or more you can qualify for free shipping using one of their codes. Sucks that it has to be over $60 to qualify but that’s where we are at these days.
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Post by jacktunney on Nov 21, 2024 12:34:33 GMT -5
Listing these on ringside against the other packs that are half the price makes me want to wait on these
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Post by jakksandhasbro on Nov 21, 2024 12:38:47 GMT -5
Exactly, why not just wait till the price goes down on these better yet why not just sell em for the discounted price right off the bat.
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Hasbromaniac
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Post by Hasbromaniac on Nov 21, 2024 13:45:14 GMT -5
Ordered 2 full sets, will get 3rd for grandsons when prices may go down.
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Post by nomorexclusives on Nov 21, 2024 13:59:00 GMT -5
Why would anyone pay full price? Especially with black friday and cyber monday 1.0,1.5,2.0,2.5 coming....
Just wait it out past the weekend for full savings
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Post by @WWERetroStars on Nov 21, 2024 14:11:52 GMT -5
Why would anyone pay full price? Especially with black friday and cyber monday 1.0,1.5,2.0,2.5 coming.... Just wait it out past the weekend for full savings Preorders don’t get discounted.
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Post by biggerbetterbadder on Nov 21, 2024 15:45:23 GMT -5
The Bloodline retros are like the double edged sword scenario. I want the retros to continue, but I don’t want current stars. If it sells well, we will most likely get more current roster. If it sells bad, maybe the line doesn’t last as long as we hope. Still a lot of legends to consider, so fingers crossed for more legends.
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Post by TheWholeFnShow on Nov 21, 2024 16:33:15 GMT -5
Ordered the Bloodline. Sucks we have to wait until late March, but whatever.
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