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Post by drnickriviera995 on Jul 26, 2024 7:49:59 GMT -5
Following the NWO and DX, I've been expecting a Bloodline series for a bit. It makes sense that RC stick to influential stables to make their line just that little bit special. Bummer that the Wiseman isn't included, though. I didn't even draw the correlation that these were all stables, would make more sense though then to be in a 4-pack, instead of the 2 tag sets each time though. Wonder if there could be hope of Nation or Horsemen later on?
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Post by kirk815 on Jul 26, 2024 9:27:00 GMT -5
Following the NWO and DX, I've been expecting a Bloodline series for a bit. It makes sense that RC stick to influential stables to make their line just that little bit special. Bummer that the Wiseman isn't included, though. I didn't even draw the correlation that these were all stables, would make more sense though then to be in a 4-pack, instead of the 2 tag sets each time though. Wonder if there could be hope of Nation or Horsemen later on? I think it was supposed to be at least one tag team as a throwback to the 2 pack tag teams sets. Outsiders/NwO, NAO/DX, Usos/Bloodline. I could see building that around a faction/stable more so a RSC request since that adds another reason to buy it instead of just 2 tag teams (and people would complain we weren't getting the rest of the faction). I think a NOD set will happen soon although it might get a little more complicated if Henry signed again since there will be 5 under contract again (assuming DLO still is). I think 4 horseman will definitely happen if they ever have all of them signed at the same time and the line is still going. I think Tully would probably be the problem/holdout.
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Post by jacktunney on Jul 26, 2024 9:38:10 GMT -5
This community is starting to become not fun and that sucks 😞 You can have a different opinion from some one. Life would be very boring if we all just liked the same thing. However, you don't have to be an bunghole about getting your point across. This is a hobby and hobbies are supposed to be fun. I could not be any less excited by what was shown, but I still think it's awesome people are excited about it. It’s the same people that just complain about them regardless and make post after post for every little nitpick or get mad the reveals don’t match the sets they fantasy booked in their head And yeah bloodline totally makes sense in the cadence of what ringside had been putting out in their 2 packs. I was kinda hoping for an ECW set with maybe the Dudley’s/RVD/Sandman or something like that since they have been being used a lot lately but I’m happy with the Bloodline. They carried probably a top 3 storyline in company history and the figures look great.
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Post by jrambo on Jul 26, 2024 9:53:28 GMT -5
I enjoy a lot of the throwback retro sets released over the past few years and have picked them all up. I'll even get the new Hogan/Zeus set, however I'm really glad they are making a modern set with the Bloodline.
Now if we can get another random new set with some of the new top guys who don't have a retro yet Drew, Punk (non-zombie), Cody and Priest...put some current top guys in there.
And since more women figures are being made, make a woman set with current stars (Charlotte, Becky, Baley, Belair). And more title belts!
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Post by Hasbromaniac on Jul 26, 2024 10:32:39 GMT -5
Looking forward to new ring and new bundles.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jul 26, 2024 16:44:26 GMT -5
Decent showing. Great to see a Bloodline set, hopefully it sells well and paves the way for more recent names in retro style. I’d at least like to see a Rhea Ripley, Cody Rhodes, Rey Mysterio, Charlotte Flair and a new John Cena to commemorate his retirement year.
Miss Elizabeth and Sherri are two figures I’d have loved back in my original Hasbro collection so they are great surprises. I’m not too fussed about Zeus or a blue Hogan, but the belt is nice. I just want them to do a yellow trunks Hulk Hogan in the retro line. And a 2000s Hulk Still Rules. I can always get a Hasbro Hogan though I suppose.
I don’t have any nostalgia for Brother Love as he was killed off right before I started watching wrestling, but I’ll get that set anyway. I like the purple ring, and it’s just cool to be able to add more managers and interviewers to the collection.
Looking forward to the upcoming New Generation set with Michaels and Bulldog more than any of the new reveals.
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Post by 138bit on Jul 26, 2024 17:19:29 GMT -5
In the panel Steve does say Brother Love will be single carded so I assume he will have the same package as all the other single figures.
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Jul 26, 2024 20:54:30 GMT -5
I didn't even draw the correlation that these were all stables, would make more sense though then to be in a 4-pack, instead of the 2 tag sets each time though. Wonder if there could be hope of Nation or Horsemen later on? I think it was supposed to be at least one tag team as a throwback to the 2 pack tag teams sets. Outsiders/NwO, NAO/DX, Usos/Bloodline. I could see building that around a faction/stable more so a RSC request since that adds another reason to buy it instead of just 2 tag teams (and people would complain we weren't getting the rest of the faction). I think a NOD set will happen soon although it might get a little more complicated if Henry signed again since there will be 5 under contract again (assuming DLO still is). I think 4 horseman will definitely happen if they ever have all of them signed at the same time and the line is still going. I think Tully would probably be the problem/holdout. I guess any horsemen set would be good, guessing some sort of 80's version? My versions were always Flair, Arn, Benoit, Pillman/Mongo. I don't see Mongo happening, and we know Benoit's out, though I hope for someone to make a Horsemen Pillman at some point so I could get 2 and head swap to get a Benoit. Wonder what they would plug into NOD? Farooq sure, others I kinda don't care about, they already did Rock which I think is supposed to be NOD era? Or not the case? Was never really sure what time period that was supposed to be. Guess I'd actually be content with just a Farooq as a single release. I always hated all the gang wars and cloned guys to make tag teams and factions, that whole 97 period I really just would like the bigger names for the most part.
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Post by mrh on Jul 26, 2024 21:53:44 GMT -5
Action Figure Attack admitted on here that in the previous version of the Retros, the modern superstars didn't sell well -- that's why everything until now has been a Retro figure. I hate the Bloodline set -- but I hope if people agree with me, they speak with their wallets. If there actually is a demand for modern talent, we're gonna be stuck with them. I don't recall anyone from Mattel specifically comparing sales of legends vs. current retros. When they brought it back in limited releases, IIRC they just said they were going to focus on Legends. And people here were literally only discussing the line ending prior to SDCC due to horrible sales (with no actual access to sales data) since only sets 1 and 2 have sold out (which did take awhile) since they brought it back. Regardless, things have changed since the failed rollout of the initial line and the current product is insanely popular. I'm hoping the set does well and it not only grows the fan base of retros (which is never going to happen focusing solely on people from the 80s/90s), but also opens the door for them being back at retail (with the correct distribution and characters). Bring on more bloodline, judgement day, punk, cody, etc. and that hopefully leads to more Legends at retail. The initial Mattel line had so many horrible decisions/issues. 1. Initially only a Walmart exclusive and IIRC it wasn't planned as a line to keep going (2 sets and done) 2. Warrior and Taker released later and not in the initial shipment 3. Long delay from the first 2 and Series 3 (open to all retailers), which then seemed to be over ordered/kept getting replenished and the line never recovered 4. Horrible distribution throughout the whole line. I think I only remember seeing one other series (5) in stores (after series 3). I had to buy the rest online 5. Horrible/repetitive part choices/actions - Triple H and Oldberg jumpers, Warrior should have been WM6, etc. 6. Horrible character selection - Oldberg and current (at the time) Jericho/Hardy's instead of flashbacks; jobbers/extremely new talent - Elias, Shinsuke, Braun, Matt Ryder; Kevin Owens in series 1 AND 4; 3 New Day figures in the same series (should have been 1 in each series). 7. Price change from $10 to $13 when adding a stand/mobile game code. Should have stayed at 10. You can think whatever you want about moving forward. But it is a fact that Steve said (I think in response to question of mine in the QA or on a podcast), that legends sold better the first time -- and that's why every figure you've seen now for 3 years has been a legend. It was based on sales data
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Post by britishbrickfan on Jul 27, 2024 1:39:23 GMT -5
I guess any horsemen set would be good, guessing some sort of 80's version? My versions were always Flair, Arn, Benoit, Pillman/Mongo. I don't see Mongo happening, and we know Benoit's out, though I hope for someone to make a Horsemen Pillman at some point so I could get 2 and head swap to get a Benoit. Wonder what they would plug into NOD? Farooq sure, others I kinda don't care about, they already did Rock which I think is supposed to be NOD era? Or not the case? Was never really sure what time period that was supposed to be. Guess I'd actually be content with just a Farooq as a single release. I always hated all the gang wars and cloned guys to make tag teams and factions, that whole 97 period I really just would like the bigger names for the most part. for the 4 Horsemen, they could easily do:
Flair Arn Luger Windham
yeah, it's not necessarily the originals, but they are 4 characters from a peak time. I can't see them ever doing an Ole, and maybe a Tully is possible? so swap Luger for Tully, and it's still a great set.
in respect to the NOD, I don't see the need for an NOD Rock, when the current Rock figure would fit in perfectly. may as well keep that slot free for a Faarooq, D-Lo, Kama and Mark Henry 4-pack instead. as we've seen with Billy Gunn, WWE aren't averse to signing Legends deals with non-WWE contracted talent, and producing figures for them. that means the door is open for a negotiation between WWE and Henry which could allow Mattel access to his likeness for products
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Post by whybecauseican on Jul 27, 2024 4:19:26 GMT -5
Now we know that current superstars are hopefully back, who does everyone want? my top 10 in no particular order would be :
1.WYATT SICKS 2.BLOODLINE (CHECK) 3.CODY RHODES 4.FINAL BOSS ROCK 5.L.A KNIGHT 6.BRON BREAKER 7.CM PUNK 8.REY MYSTERIO 9.DREW MCINTYRE 10.JUDGEMENT DAY
I'm sure the Bloodline will be a massive success and create the path to a lot more
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Post by kirk815 on Jul 27, 2024 9:46:04 GMT -5
That may be true, but to your point, we are most likely seeing current figures now based on sales data. No one here knows how well or bad the Bloodline set is going to sell. It's either going to sell really well, just okay, or flop. I'd rather them try to build a case for going back to retail (if this does well) than just continue with only 12 figures a year (retailers want Cody, Punk, Roman, Cena, etc.). And if that happens, hopefully, they pick better lineups and have the distribution/retailer issues resolved. There might be sets that are underwhelming and sets I like better, but I think it is overboard to wish for/hope that a set does bad or to give up collecting (just pass until a set comes along that you like and collect all of these third party figures). I guess I'm lucky since I like the Golden Era, New Gen, Attitude Era, WCW, and the current product (started watching around 2015 again until now). I'm really not a fan of Ruthless Agression or ECW (didn't watch ECW and stopped watching WWE when I went to college), but I would most likely buy sets (and I definitely wouldn't wish for it to fail).
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Post by cmbarnes10 on Jul 27, 2024 9:58:07 GMT -5
I don't mind the modern sets like the bloodline because these guys will be looked back on as legends. Usos have held the tag belts a lot of times, Roman is up there in the record books with hogan and Brunob etc. With the exception being that I would have went with Heyman over solo.
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Post by NoseBleedcollectibles on Jul 27, 2024 10:54:44 GMT -5
Bloodline I'll give u that, but no more modern guys
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Post by kirk815 on Jul 27, 2024 11:37:28 GMT -5
Now we know that current superstars are hopefully back, who does everyone want? my top 10 in no particular order would be : 1.WYATT SICKS 2.BLOODLINE (CHECK) 3.CODY RHODES 4.FINAL BOSS ROCK 5.L.A KNIGHT 6.BRON BREAKER 7.CM PUNK 8.REY MYSTERIO 9.DREW MCINTYRE 10.JUDGEMENT DAY I'm sure the Bloodline will be a massive success and create the path to a lot more 1. Judgement Day (Rhea/Dom, Finn/Priest) 2. More Bloodline (Final Boss Rock/Heyman, Tama Tonga/Jacob Fatu) 3. Cody Rhodes 4. CM Punk 5. Logan Paul 6. LA Knight 7. Fiend 8. Asuka, Bayley, Charlotte, Bianca, Jade, Becky (assuming she resigns) 9. Drew Mcintyre 10. Rey Mysterio 11. Seth Rollins (colorful attire) I would also say Wyatt Sicks provided they don't flop. If it ends up being dropped by the end of the year, I think it will be too risky (even tho they would be really toyetic).
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Post by whybecauseican on Jul 27, 2024 11:37:53 GMT -5
Bloodline I'll give u that, but no more modern guys More modern guys the better, The money is there, WWE so hot at the moment and will attract a much larger audience to the retros. I think Mattel know this and are going back to current as well as legends. just makes good business sense. Personally given me new life on the Retros and many people I know are so excited they started doing current again. Enough of the boring 80's guys about 10 people want
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Post by Vincent Brocoli on Jul 27, 2024 11:52:43 GMT -5
Short hair Bulldog should have been saved for a possible Hart Foundation 4 pack. I don't get that decision? Should have been Royal Rumble 1995 look to match Shawn.
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Post by kirk815 on Jul 27, 2024 12:19:21 GMT -5
Short hair Bulldog should have been saved for a possible Hart Foundation 4 pack. I don't get that decision? Should have been Royal Rumble 1995 look to match Shawn. I agree, especially since Pillman is back under contract. Only thing I can think of is they just did Hart Foundation in series 2 (people would complain we were getting them again/they might want to wait a bit) or Bulldog was already slotted before Pillman was back.
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Post by RealMattHopkins on Jul 27, 2024 12:19:49 GMT -5
Just me still hoping we get one of those secret surprise renders that gives everyone reason to speculate and wonder and question for another six months? I still remember a few years back when we got that surprise Jerry Lawler, so many of us were excitedly wondering who he could be paired with. Of all the Retros produced since the beginning, I still think that Lawler was one of the absolute best. It fits so perfectly with the Hasbros and having it in my hands took me back to my childhood. I would have loved having the King out on the floor for my many, many, many Wrestlemanias. I suppose I felt like posting this because I am seeing so much negativity. These are toys. Toys are meant to make you happy. If you're not happy, go play with other toys. Ya know?
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Post by NoseBleedcollectibles on Jul 27, 2024 12:36:21 GMT -5
Bloodline I'll give u that, but no more modern guys More modern guys the better, The money is there, WWE so hot at the moment and will attract a much larger audience to the retros. I think Mattel know this and are going back to current as well as legends. just makes good business sense. Personally given me new life on the Retros and many people I know are so excited they started doing current again. Enough of the boring 80's guys about 10 people want I don't want 80s guys either, I want more late WCW and WWF guys some RA era H havoc Rey Eddie Harlem heat Steiners Ddp Evolution Hardcore Kane taker rikishi
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