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Post by drnickriviera995 on Mar 23, 2024 1:14:33 GMT -5
Wasn't expecting this surprise drop, didn't think we'd see anything until Mania weekend. I do hope we see maybe the next creations wave and hope to see more from RSC. So maybe 8 figures? Wishful thinking maybe.
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Post by aaron34 on Mar 23, 2024 2:08:49 GMT -5
This, all day. If they could up the price, then maybe they could create unique molds for each wrestler like the early Hasbro's did. Since most of the retro collectors are older, I don't think they would mind a bit of a cost increase if the quality were much better. I think if Mattel went this route, they could execute their figures on the same par as some of Hasttels and Zombie's best figure but also include "actions" that the smaller companies can't. Plus, they would have a larger roster to choose from.
I 100% agree with this. I would rather pay more, and have better quality. I wish Action Figure Attack would respond to that request, though I assume it's going to be a no. won’t happen, the line stays as long as the production costs are kept low.. we all know this.. mattel are pumping their money into ultimates and now the coliseum line, that’s where they are getting a better return
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Post by hbkjason on Mar 23, 2024 2:10:24 GMT -5
I love the theming of that set, but the execution is bad. HBK and Bulldog look terrible 😔
A new HBK and Bulldog were right at the top of my list, but these are so bad. Shawn looks tiny and like and old man. Hopefully it's just the photos and they will look better in person, but I would be more surprised if they do.
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Post by hulkjoegan on Mar 23, 2024 2:11:28 GMT -5
This, all day. If they could up the price, then maybe they could create unique molds for each wrestler like the early Hasbro's did. Since most of the retro collectors are older, I don't think they would mind a bit of a cost increase if the quality were much better. I think if Mattel went this route, they could execute their figures on the same par as some of Hasttels and Zombie's best figure but also include "actions" that the smaller companies can't. Plus, they would have a larger roster to choose from.
I 100% agree with this. I would rather pay more, and have better quality. I wish Action Figure Attack would respond to that request, though I assume it's going to be a no. To be fair, I don’t think Steve has the final say on Mattel’s decisions.
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Post by hulkjoegan on Mar 23, 2024 2:54:11 GMT -5
Like a lot of other guys, I think that this line could do with some more body types - the most obviously needed being a thicker-set, Hasbro Duggan style that could work for a fair few guys from that era. But to say Mattel aren’t adding new molds isn’t really accurate - we’ve had Mean Gene, R&B Greg, Tugboat/ Vader, Jerry Lawler, Hogan and the ladies in recent sets. They are slowly introducing new parts as the sets roll out.
And I’m starting to feel that Mattel are kind of damned if they do, damned if they don’t…. They try giving new action features/molds, like the Cena and the Sami Zayn kick, and are met with: “I hate that body” “Those arms are too tiny” “It doesn’t stand up”
They give announcers/ managers and ladies, and are met with: “I don’t want them as they weren’t done by Hasbro!”
They try broadening the line with wrestlers from pre- & post-Hasbro era and are met with: “That’s not my era”
Personally, I give them props for trying some new things with the action moves - and I’d be interested in seeing more.
However, that is obviously not to say that there aren’t some design and/ or practical issues - some of the kickers being a bit twitchy and difficult to stay standing up is an issue.
The main frustration for me is some of the design choices: The Angle/Lex body is NOT suitable for Anvil. Personally, I don’t mind the body type; although I appreciate that it looks a little disjointed (not too dissimilar to how the jumpers do). And it definitely isn’t suitable for everyone.
But where am I going in this ramble….ultimately, I suppose we have to stop using a hard comparison to the hasbros.
These are not hasbros. They are retros. Inspired by hasbros. A nod to hasbros. But not hasbros. From the very first series the proportions have stood out as them being pretty distinct from hasbros.
It’s probably about time, after all these years, that we accept that these are not hasbros and start to enjoy them for being their own thing. Retros.
And if you don’t like retros, that’s fine! But maybe it’s worth moving along instead of fueling your own continued frustration.
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Post by hbkjason on Mar 23, 2024 3:07:12 GMT -5
Also, no offense to Alundra Blaze, but a new generation Bret would have been so much better.
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Post by briscowins on Mar 23, 2024 3:36:27 GMT -5
Bulldog seems to be the one out of place for sure. Bret would have been perfect but we did just get one in the hart foundation with Anvil. Maybe that’s why they didn’t do him again.
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Post by danfdan on Mar 23, 2024 3:56:36 GMT -5
I love the set personally. Bulldog is great, Shawns face is good, Alundra and Yankem are amazing.
A big improvement on the last set.
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Post by rtec1 on Mar 23, 2024 5:49:11 GMT -5
Not to knock on anyone who still loves these Retros but I’m done with them now, it’s just pure laziness and zero effort. Mattel have been well overtaken by ZST, Hasttel and Epic whose figures make Mattel’s look so poor. I’ll just hold out hope that these independents get some of the licenses eventually to make their own versions.
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Mar 23, 2024 7:08:20 GMT -5
Not to knock on anyone who still loves these Retros but I’m done with them now, it’s just pure laziness and zero effort. Mattel have been well overtaken by ZST, Hasttel and Epic whose figures make Mattel’s look so poor. I’ll just hold out hope that these independents get some of the licenses eventually to make their own versions. Yeah, I see your point. The indys have gotten a few real big names like Macho and Punk (for those that don't mind a few modern guys). But sadly, I think a few big names will not be open to indys anytime soon. Shawn, and Kevin Nash and Waltman, due to their ties to HHH I can never see not being exclusive to Mattel. Not sure about Hall since it would be his estate handling things now. Warrior, I could see lapsing and being picked up at some point, and maybe even Sting. Bret seems pretty loyal to WWE too in order to uphold his legacy and everything, but maybe there's a chance at some point.
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Mar 23, 2024 7:09:48 GMT -5
Like a lot of other guys, I think that this line could do with some more body types - the most obviously needed being a thicker-set, Hasbro Duggan style that could work for a fair few guys from that era. But to say Mattel aren’t adding new molds isn’t really accurate - we’ve had Mean Gene, R&B Greg, Tugboat/ Vader, Jerry Lawler, Hogan and the ladies in recent sets. They are slowly introducing new parts as the sets roll out. And I’m starting to feel that Mattel are kind of damned if they do, damned if they don’t…. They try giving new action features/molds, like the Cena and the Sami Zayn kick, and are met with: “I hate that body” “Those arms are too tiny” “It doesn’t stand up” They give announcers/ managers and ladies, and are met with: “I don’t want them as they weren’t done by Hasbro!” They try broadening the line with wrestlers from pre- & post-Hasbro era and are met with: “That’s not my era” Personally, I give them props for trying some new things with the action moves - and I’d be interested in seeing more. However, that is obviously not to say that there aren’t some design and/ or practical issues - some of the kickers being a bit twitchy and difficult to stay standing up is an issue. The main frustration for me is some of the design choices: The Angle/Lex body is NOT suitable for Anvil. Personally, I don’t mind the body type; although I appreciate that it looks a little disjointed (not too dissimilar to how the jumpers do). And it definitely isn’t suitable for everyone. But where am I going in this ramble….ultimately, I suppose we have to stop using a hard comparison to the hasbros. These are not hasbros. They are retros. Inspired by hasbros. A nod to hasbros. But not hasbros. From the very first series the proportions have stood out as them being pretty distinct from hasbros. It’s probably about time, after all these years, that we accept that these are not hasbros and start to enjoy them for being their own thing. Retros. And if you don’t like retros, that’s fine! But maybe it’s worth moving along instead of fueling your own continued frustration. All good points, though I would sure love a higher quality product, this newest set hits the sweet spot era at least for me and most Hasbro fans, so it's way better than the past couple sets (80's and DX) to me, so I'll pick it up for sure.
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Post by cableV on Mar 23, 2024 18:56:48 GMT -5
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Post by mrh on Mar 23, 2024 19:01:08 GMT -5
Also, no offense to Alundra Blaze, but a new generation Bret would have been so much better.
I completely disagree. Alundra looks as good as an actual Hasbro, same with Yankem.
Look at the tag team Bret they did - embarrassing. Same for these HBK and Bulldog. Like someone says, Shawn looks like an old man, not the vibrant HBK that Hasbro captured so amazingly well.
A New Gen Bret will *not* come out well, given their track record.
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Post by @Chair.Shot on Mar 23, 2024 19:44:21 GMT -5
I’m mostly positive about this set. It hits a good time period and is decent selection given who is available. As always, there are some nitpicks with things I wish they would have done differently:
Limit sets to no more than one figure that has already had a retro Given Bulldog different attire and a different action HBK’s hair in the studio video doesn’t look as good as the video Steve just posted. I’m not sure who to believe! Have a different mold for women. Three in a row is too lazy.
But yeah, I’m overall pleased with this set. Things are filling out nicely. I’m hopeful for Mania!
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Mar 23, 2024 21:01:33 GMT -5
Also, no offense to Alundra Blaze, but a new generation Bret would have been so much better. I completely disagree. Alundra looks as good as an actual Hasbro, same with Yankem. Look at the tag team Bret they did - embarrassing. Same for these HBK and Bulldog. Like someone says, Shawn looks like an old man, not the vibrant HBK that Hasbro captured so amazingly well. A New Gen Bret will *not* come out well, given their track record.
Yeah, I totally agree, I don't think a singles Bret would turn out good based on the track record so far. I have yet to even see a Hasbro customizer do a Bret I like that vears from the original sculpt. I like the Blayze and it'll look good next to the Chella Bull Nakano. I'm also not bothered by reusing the same body 3 times, since neither Richter nor Chyna are in the same era, so I wouldn't personally have them displayed anywhere near each other anyway.
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Post by aaron34 on Mar 24, 2024 2:43:27 GMT -5
Like a lot of other guys, I think that this line could do with some more body types - the most obviously needed being a thicker-set, Hasbro Duggan style that could work for a fair few guys from that era. But to say Mattel aren’t adding new molds isn’t really accurate - we’ve had Mean Gene, R&B Greg, Tugboat/ Vader, Jerry Lawler, Hogan and the ladies in recent sets. They are slowly introducing new parts as the sets roll out. And I’m starting to feel that Mattel are kind of damned if they do, damned if they don’t…. They try giving new action features/molds, like the Cena and the Sami Zayn kick, and are met with: “I hate that body” “Those arms are too tiny” “It doesn’t stand up” They give announcers/ managers and ladies, and are met with: “I don’t want them as they weren’t done by Hasbro!” They try broadening the line with wrestlers from pre- & post-Hasbro era and are met with: “That’s not my era” Personally, I give them props for trying some new things with the action moves - and I’d be interested in seeing more. However, that is obviously not to say that there aren’t some design and/ or practical issues - some of the kickers being a bit twitchy and difficult to stay standing up is an issue. The main frustration for me is some of the design choices: The Angle/Lex body is NOT suitable for Anvil. Personally, I don’t mind the body type; although I appreciate that it looks a little disjointed (not too dissimilar to how the jumpers do). And it definitely isn’t suitable for everyone. But where am I going in this ramble….ultimately, I suppose we have to stop using a hard comparison to the hasbros. These are not hasbros. They are retros. Inspired by hasbros. A nod to hasbros. But not hasbros. From the very first series the proportions have stood out as them being pretty distinct from hasbros. It’s probably about time, after all these years, that we accept that these are not hasbros and start to enjoy them for being their own thing. Retros. And if you don’t like retros, that’s fine! But maybe it’s worth moving along instead of fueling your own continued frustration. very well said 👍🏻
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Post by g4 on Mar 24, 2024 10:25:05 GMT -5
I think Mattel have forgotten what Retro's are and the time period they represent. New Gen, Attitude era, a 5th Shawn Michaels are all wasted opportunities.
Out of the 24 (or 36 with Ringside) figures released so far only 6 have been true to the era (fit in with Hasbro's)
With only 4 sets left I hope Mattel start listening to who fans want in this series rather than produce another 4 figures nobody asked for.
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Post by @WWERetroStars on Mar 24, 2024 10:28:31 GMT -5
I think Mattel have forgotten what Retro's are and the time period they represent. New Gen, Attitude era, a 5th Shawn Michaels are all wasted opportunities. Out of the 24 (or 36 with Ringside) figures released so far only 6 have been true to the era (fit in with Hasbro's) With only 4 sets left I hope Mattel start listening to who fans want in this series rather than produce another 4 figures nobody asked for. What do you mean 4 sets left?
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Post by drnickriviera995 on Mar 24, 2024 10:58:45 GMT -5
I think Mattel have forgotten what Retro's are and the time period they represent. New Gen, Attitude era, a 5th Shawn Michaels are all wasted opportunities. Out of the 24 (or 36 with Ringside) figures released so far only 6 have been true to the era (fit in with Hasbro's) With only 4 sets left I hope Mattel start listening to who fans want in this series rather than produce another 4 figures nobody asked for. What do you mean 4 sets left? Yeah, wondering too? Did Mattel say X amount of sets and it was done?
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Post by habrofan83 on Mar 24, 2024 11:12:08 GMT -5
Could be possible they only do another 4 and if that’s the case they need to give us, sherri, liz, heenan and monsoon.
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