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Post by Kliquid on Jun 5, 2007 19:34:53 GMT -5
Chiefs finally trade Trent Green to the Dolphins for a 5th round pick that could turn into a 4th round pick depending on how many games Green starts over the course of the season. I guess that's it for Daunte? Thanks for the news. I think it probably will be the end for Culpepper in Miami. If they're going with Green, they really have no reason to keep him around.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jun 5, 2007 19:46:33 GMT -5
sucks for the jets. Chansi Stuckey is a burner with a load of talent, he was just a square peg in a round hole at Clemson, so his statistical production didn't open any eyes. but he was the type of player who could've really made an impact in schottenheimer's wide open offense. im not saying his career is over or anything, but as a 7th round pick he had an up-hill battle to begin with. tack on a misdemeanor charge and he's looking at the practice squad at best. well, one positive is that we get to see the jets tinker around with brad smith a ton more this year. and that's always fun. Brad Smith is tons of fun to watch. Cant wait what the next trick play they will use Smith in. Chiefs finally trade Trent Green to the Dolphins for a 5th round pick that could turn into a 4th round pick depending on how many games Green starts over the course of the season. I guess that's it for Daunte? I guess so. I think Adam Schefter was saying today that the Green deal was still pretty far from being done and that was at the 7pm NFL Network Around The League report.
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Post by Tim of thee on Jun 5, 2007 20:08:04 GMT -5
even though they're loaded (in numbers) with QB's, Tampa might look into signing a released Daunte Culpepper.. that is if he is even released..
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Post by sonstuds on Jun 5, 2007 20:11:28 GMT -5
I hope Culpepper goes back to the Vikings. Then we can all forget this entire Miami situation ever happened.
Off topic, but does nfl.com not work for anyone else?
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Post by Hulkamaniac on Jun 5, 2007 21:24:47 GMT -5
Thank God the Chiefs finally dealt Green. Should've done it about 4 years ago. I'm ready for them to take a year or two and rebuild. Then come back with a team that can actually win something, not just a team that competes every year but always comes up short.
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Post by tim on Jun 7, 2007 14:04:17 GMT -5
Thank God the Chiefs finally dealt Green. Should've done it about 4 years ago. I'm ready for them to take a year or two and rebuild. Then come back with a team that can actually win something, not just a team that competes every year but always comes up short. too bad the guy who will shoulder that burden is brodie croyle, a major league, Grade-A choker the thing I dont understand about this whole culpepper/green situation is... Culpepper was already back, on the field, showing mobility about 3 weeks earlier than his rehab indicated. so if they wanted a one year rental "mentor" type QB, why not just stick with Culpepper? is a 37-year-old, concussed Trent Green really that much of an upgrade over a 30-year-old, knee repaired Daunte Culpepper? besides, its not like John Beck is the type of QB that is raw and needs to sit on the bench to develop before reaching the NFL; he's almost 27 years old and started all 4 of his seasons at brigham young. the "kid"(i use that term loosely for a 26 year old rookie) is about as ready as he's gonna be.
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Post by T R W on Jun 7, 2007 18:03:10 GMT -5
Culpepper needs to come to Atlanta. We are in the market for a starting QB.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jun 8, 2007 18:20:57 GMT -5
Thank God the Chiefs finally dealt Green. Should've done it about 4 years ago. I'm ready for them to take a year or two and rebuild. Then come back with a team that can actually win something, not just a team that competes every year but always comes up short. too bad the guy who will shoulder that burden is brodie croyle, a major league, Grade-A choker the thing I dont understand about this whole culpepper/green situation is... Culpepper was already back, on the field, showing mobility about 3 weeks earlier than his rehab indicated. so if they wanted a one year rental "mentor" type QB, why not just stick with Culpepper? is a 37-year-old, concussed Trent Green really that much of an upgrade over a 30-year-old, knee repaired Daunte Culpepper? besides, its not like John Beck is the type of QB that is raw and needs to sit on the bench to develop before reaching the NFL; he's almost 27 years old and started all 4 of his seasons at brigham young. the "kid"(i use that term loosely for a 26 year old rookie) is about as ready as he's gonna be. Maturity level....you might be right. But the pro and college game are different. Beck needs to see and practice a more pro style offense and learn to read coverage better. Whether Green or Culpepper could teach him......irrelevant now. Culpepper is out of Miami. Oakland would be a good place for him to land. He could really help Russell.
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Post by tim on Jun 8, 2007 19:03:06 GMT -5
BYU runs a pretty pro-style offense, just a little more wide open than what Cameron and the Dolphins will employ. sure, Beck will have to learn the nuances and depth of the phins playbook, but that shouldn't necessitate so much of a learning curve that they have to completely overturn their depth chart.
as far as reading coverage better, the only way that is gonna happen is by getting on the field. practice reps help to an extent, but they're essentially like practicing slow-pitch softball before your first major league baseball game. nothing compares to--or will prepare him adequately enough--actually being on the field and facing a hungry defense.
it just seems like a jumbled situation by the Dolphins, to me. you draft a QB high in the 2nd round, one with experience and maturity... you might as well throw him to the wolves. why pussyfoot around by trading a conditional 5th rounder for a 37 year old and then cutting a guy you invested a 2nd round pick in just 2 years ago?
thinking about it, in just the last 3 years the Dolphins have invested three 2nd round picks and about $65 million dollars on three different QBs--AJ Feeley, Daunte Culpepper, John Beck--and now a conditional 5th round pick on Trent Green. you hear so much about "Marino's shadow" or "the curse of Marino"... bullshit. try, "the curse of an inept front office."
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Post by tim on Jun 9, 2007 17:19:19 GMT -5
Rookies Poised for Success in '07 bringtheblitz.com/news/183433077.shtml a pretty lengthy article, yea... but i've always liked to delve deeper than just the "big name" rookies and try to pinpoint who might be a candidate for a big rookie season due to the situations they were drafted into. let me know what you guys think. first time in a couple of months that i've had the time to sit down and write something, so i was a little rusty.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jun 10, 2007 18:51:47 GMT -5
BYU runs a pretty pro-style offense, just a little more wide open than what Cameron and the Dolphins will employ. sure, Beck will have to learn the nuances and depth of the phins playbook, but that shouldn't necessitate so much of a learning curve that they have to completely overturn their depth chart. as far as reading coverage better, the only way that is gonna happen is by getting on the field. practice reps help to an extent, but they're essentially like practicing slow-pitch softball before your first major league baseball game. nothing compares to--or will prepare him adequately enough--actually being on the field and facing a hungry defense. it just seems like a jumbled situation by the Dolphins, to me. you draft a QB high in the 2nd round, one with experience and maturity... you might as well throw him to the wolves. why pu ssyfoot around by trading a conditional 5th rounder for a 37 year old and then cutting a guy you invested a 2nd round pick in just 2 years ago? thinking about it, in just the last 3 years the Dolphins have invested three 2nd round picks and about $65 million dollars on three different QBs--AJ Feeley, Daunte Culpepper, John Beck--and now a conditional 5th round pick on Trent Green. you hear so much about "Marino's shadow" or "the curse of Marino"... bu ll ****. try, "the curse of an inept front office." 100% agreed on Dolphins front office being inept. There's no curse, unless you want to talk about the ignorance of the Dolphins front office. LOL!! I just think you are better off having Green, a long time vet, start off as the starter and have Beck learn from him. I think Phillip Rivers is more poised, not just cuz he has LT, but b/c he spent so much time on the bench watching Brees. Any interview with Rivers....he says the same thing. He attributes his solid play with watching Brees for a full couple of seasons.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jun 12, 2007 13:36:38 GMT -5
Brady Quinn is on the holdout. Doesnt look good that he will make it to the beginning of training camp. Mortensen is reporting that if he misses the first 2 weeks he will be too far behind and will not be the opening day starter. Reports state the Browns want to pay him #22 draft pick money and Tom Condon wants top 5 money. Camps are far apart.
Quinn needs to step in and get into camp. Missing camp is gonna put him too far behind. Browns will most definitely be having a top 5 pick next year, and thats a Cowboys pick, if they dont come to terms quickly.
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Post by Kliquid on Jun 12, 2007 13:43:50 GMT -5
Browns will most definitely be having a top 5 pick next year, and thats a Cowboys pick, if they dont come to terms quickly. ;D welcum 2 dalas daren mecfaden
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Post by sonstuds on Jun 12, 2007 14:27:31 GMT -5
Quinn needs to step in and get into camp. Missing camp is gonna put him too far behind. Browns will most definitely be having a top 5 pick next year, and thats a Cowboys pick, if they dont come to terms quickly. I really doubt a rookie Brady Quinn is gonna have that much of an impact on the Browns' season. It's all about Sean Jones and Andra Davis, woot woot.
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Post by tim on Jun 12, 2007 14:31:43 GMT -5
that entire lb corps is growing to be real sexytime. davis, a healthy d'qwell jackson, kam wimbley, antwan peek... willie mcginest and leon williams getting situational playing time off the bench... lots of potential there. too bad the front 3 sucks pretty bad, although shaun smith could change that if he becomes a force at nose tackle like he potentially could.
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Post by sonstuds on Jun 12, 2007 14:36:24 GMT -5
that entire lb corps is growing to be real sexytime. davis, a healthy d'qwell jackson, kam wimbley, antwan peek... willie mcginest and leon williams getting situational playing time off the bench... lots of potential there. too bad the front 3 sucks pretty bad, although shaun smith could change that if he becomes a force at nose tackle like he potentially could. Let's not forget RoBeast Smith.
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Post by immortal on Jun 12, 2007 17:09:44 GMT -5
man, last i was with my dad, i kept talking about how the browns suck, and he was like "omg browns are going to the playoffs" so i lol and he bets $50 they make it...to my ing stepmom. that's not even fair. they're married. what an bunghole. >
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Post by Kliquid on Jun 12, 2007 17:39:28 GMT -5
I also have a bet with a friend of mine. He claimed that the New York Jets and Cleveland Browns would both be playoff teams this season.
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Post by immortal on Jun 12, 2007 18:16:36 GMT -5
Dammit I would bet everything I own against someone that thinks the Browns are a playoff team.
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Post by Kliquid on Jun 12, 2007 19:10:00 GMT -5
Dammit I would bet everything I own against someone that thinks the Browns are a playoff team. I wanted to bet more, but he more did it to spite me because I was saying how bad the Browns and Jets were last year before the season. We had the same bet last year. Obviously I was wrong about the Jets last year, but I just don't see that repeating. They stood no chance in the playoffs once they got there and they're just not ready, as a team, to be contenders again this year.
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