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Post by havoc7179 on Aug 17, 2018 11:09:53 GMT -5
I think it's a paradox. I am going to go back in time and kill Hitler as a child. If I do, history would be totally changed. How would I ever know, little 5 year old Hitler was the leader of the Nazi regime. Unless, a Multiverse of realities exists. Although, going back in our mind as it was spoke of earlier. And going back to memories, or playing out scenarios in your hand is something to think about I'd go back in time just to relieve moments again and again and again and again,
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Post by Jack Specific on Aug 17, 2018 11:54:49 GMT -5
I think it's a paradox. I am going to go back in time and kill Hitler as a child. If I do, history would be totally changed. How would I ever know, little 5 year old Hitler was the leader of the Nazi regime. Unless, a Multiverse of realities exists. Although, going back in our mind as it was spoke of earlier. And going back to memories, or playing out scenarios in your hand is something to think about Here's another scenario... what if by going back and killing baby Hitler gave rise to an even bigger evil? I certainly am not condoning what he did but there's always going to be some butterfly effect one way or the other going back in time and changing history.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2018 12:40:05 GMT -5
The whole killing Hitler thing seems a nonsense to me. There were circumstances leading to what happened, and he certainly wasnt alone in his views, millions and millions of Germans elected his party, they also had allies throughout the world, so if it wasnt Hitler it would certainly have been someone else
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Post by havoc7179 on Aug 17, 2018 12:54:37 GMT -5
I think it's a paradox. I am going to go back in time and kill Hitler as a child. If I do, history would be totally changed. How would I ever know, little 5 year old Hitler was the leader of the Nazi regime. Unless, a Multiverse of realities exists. Although, going back in our mind as it was spoke of earlier. And going back to memories, or playing out scenarios in your hand is something to think about Here's another scenario... what if by going back and killing baby Hitler gave rise to an even bigger evil? I certainly am not condoning what he did but there's always going to be some butterfly effect one way or the other going back in time and changing history. Ever see that Time Machine movie with GUy Pearce? He encounters something similar. He is trying to save his wife/fiancee from death, and everytime he does, she dies another way. You can't escape fate. So, if Hitler dies, it's Himmler who takes over. Or the other guy who they're doing another movie about. Is that Himmler? Maybe that's why his name was fresh in my head.
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Post by Kill Em' All on Aug 17, 2018 17:22:38 GMT -5
I think it's a paradox. I am going to go back in time and kill Hitler as a child. If I do, history would be totally changed. How would I ever know, little 5 year old Hitler was the leader of the Nazi regime. Unless, a Multiverse of realities exists. Although, going back in our mind as it was spoke of earlier. And going back to memories, or playing out scenarios in your hand is something to think about Here's another scenario... what if by going back and killing baby Hitler gave rise to an even bigger evil? I certainly am not condoning what he did but there's always going to be some butterfly effect one way or the other going back in time and changing history. Exactly, man. You could go back in time, and punch someone in the face. Somehow by doing that, you may have made the cold war get hot in a alternative timeline.
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Post by Kill Em' All on Aug 17, 2018 17:25:28 GMT -5
The whole killing Hitler thing seems a nonsense to me. There were circumstances leading to what happened, and he certainly wasnt alone in his views, millions and millions of Germans elected his party, they also had allies throughout the world, so if it wasnt Hitler it would certainly have been someone else Well, I find that Hitler wasn't the worst the world saw. Still horrible and he belongs in that league. But he pales to a Mao and Stalin. But, to your point of killing Hitler. The Nazi party would be very different as the Night of Long Knives never would happen. So as long as WW1 goes down the way it did, Nazi's will happen of course. But without leading it, the party would go down a very different path.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2018 18:37:46 GMT -5
The whole killing Hitler thing seems a nonsense to me. There were circumstances leading to what happened, and he certainly wasnt alone in his views, millions and millions of Germans elected his party, they also had allies throughout the world, so if it wasnt Hitler it would certainly have been someone else Well, I find that Hitler wasn't the worst the world saw. Still horrible and he belongs in that league. But he pales to a Mao and Stalin. But, to your point of killing Hitler. The Nazi party would be very different as the Night of Long Knives never would happen. So as long as WW1 goes down the way it did, Nazi's will happen of course. But without leading it, the party would go down a very different path. You are absolutely right, he wasnt the worst, by a long way, its strange, in a way, why hes held up as the yard stick to measure these things, particularly with what Stalin carried out. I just think, Hitler wasnt the only one to hold those views on the Jews etc, i mean you only have to look at things over the course of history to see that, im not sure sure a whole lot would have been different, slightly, but not massively
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Post by Jack Specific on Aug 17, 2018 18:44:40 GMT -5
Here's another scenario... what if by going back and killing baby Hitler gave rise to an even bigger evil? I certainly am not condoning what he did but there's always going to be some butterfly effect one way or the other going back in time and changing history. Exactly, man. You could go back in time, and punch someone in the face. Somehow by doing that, you may have made the cold war get hot in a alternative timeline. Yep I've seen just about every movie made that had to do with time travel.
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Post by Kill Em' All on Aug 17, 2018 22:08:30 GMT -5
Well, I find that Hitler wasn't the worst the world saw. Still horrible and he belongs in that league. But he pales to a Mao and Stalin. But, to your point of killing Hitler. The Nazi party would be very different as the Night of Long Knives never would happen. So as long as WW1 goes down the way it did, Nazi's will happen of course. But without leading it, the party would go down a very different path. You are absolutely right, he wasnt the worst, by a long way, its strange, in a way, why hes held up as the yard stick to measure these things, particularly with what Stalin carried out. I just think, Hitler wasnt the only one to hold those views on the Jews etc, i mean you only have to look at things over the course of history to see that, im not sure sure a whole lot would have been different, slightly, but not massively I think people are more content with someone killing their own over someone killing others oddly enough.
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Post by K5 on Aug 17, 2018 22:46:51 GMT -5
Here's another scenario... what if by going back and killing baby Hitler gave rise to an even bigger evil? I certainly am not condoning what he did but there's always going to be some butterfly effect one way or the other going back in time and changing history. This is what I think of every time I hear of the scenario that someone would go back in time to kill baby Hitler. Twilight Zone from the 2002 revival in the episode titled "Cradle of Darkness". Here's the synopsis: Andrea Collins (Katherine Heigl) travels from an unmentioned time to April 28, 1889, to Braunau am Inn, Austria, and becomes a housemaid to the Hitler family. Her plan is to kill the infant Adolf Hitler.
Her first attempts fail due to disruptions and her own inability to kill a baby. After being unable to kill the baby, Collins goes into a church to confess. She tells the father that someone in the city would cause the death of 60 million people and that she will kill him, to which the father replies that nobody knows the future but even if it is true, only God has the right to kill that person.
Collins finally manages to fulfill her plan by stealing the child and jumping into a river with it. However, Kristina, another housemaid, having followed Andrea and witnessed her jump, buys a homeless woman's baby – the homeless woman ironically a Gypsy – and passes it off as Adolf, presumably the one known to history in the first place. Effectively Collins murdered an innocent child while creating Adolf Hitler. I immediately thought of this episode too, love twilight zone in all its incarnations. as for the topic, I think time can be traveled or manipulated by different means, all of which are currently outside our knowledge and/or understanding.
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Post by Papi Joker on Aug 17, 2018 22:56:49 GMT -5
Do memories count as time travel? Something to think about then let's count photographs, literature and crappy forum threads too!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 9:45:28 GMT -5
With all the talk of killing a baby Hitler, why not just go back and have him be accepted into art school?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 10:06:05 GMT -5
With all the talk of killing a baby Hitler, why not just go back and have him be accepted into art school? Because some people are more comfortable with the evil of killing a baby than nurture
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Post by Halloween King on Aug 25, 2018 11:26:29 GMT -5
Wish it were real. But I doubt it's possible. In a sense time travel has already been proven to be real. Take this example. You have 3 people. All 3 are in New York, all 3 want to go to California. 1 guy will be walking. His trip will take several days. One guy will be driving. His trip will take a few days. The last guy will travel on an airplane. His trip will take a few hours. So the guy on the plane will be in California days before the first guy or the second guy. That is time travel. The faster you go the farther you can travel in less time. That's the basic concept or time travel. We just dont really have a grasp on how traveling backwards would work.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2018 19:41:56 GMT -5
Wish it were real. But I doubt it's possible. In a sense time travel has already been proven to be real. Take this example. You have 3 people. All 3 are in New York, all 3 want to go to California. 1 guy will be walking. His trip will take several days. One guy will be driving. His trip will take a few days. The last guy will travel on an airplane. His trip will take a few hours. So the guy on the plane will be in California days before the first guy or the second guy. That is time travel. The faster you go the farther you can travel in less time. That's the basic concept or time travel. We just dont really have a grasp on how traveling backwards would work. Lol thats just travel . Airplane guy just made it to his destination before the other guys
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Post by Halloween King on Sept 10, 2018 10:13:29 GMT -5
In a sense time travel has already been proven to be real. Take this example. You have 3 people. All 3 are in New York, all 3 want to go to California. 1 guy will be walking. His trip will take several days. One guy will be driving. His trip will take a few days. The last guy will travel on an airplane. His trip will take a few hours. So the guy on the plane will be in California days before the first guy or the second guy. That is time travel. The faster you go the farther you can travel in less time. That's the basic concept or time travel. We just dont really have a grasp on how traveling backwards would work. Lol thats just travel . Airplane guy just made it to his destination before the other guys That's the basic principle of time travel. In Back to the Future they use a car. In that car they travel forward. Something helped that car travel so fast that it went from 1985 to 2015 instantly. So you laugh at the airplane example, and it does seem silly, but it's the same concept. You can jump in a Delorean and be whisked away to 2015 from 1985 or you can sit and wait. You can walk cross country and take days or you can hop on an airplane and be there much quicker. In both the Delorean and the airplane you cut the amount of time you spend traveling. The difference is that the airplane exists and the Delorean that can instantly travel through decades does not. Saying you went on an airplane ride is not as far fetched as saying you just came from 1985.
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Post by Hulkster2001 on Sept 10, 2018 10:55:58 GMT -5
There’s a lot of things I’d change if I could time travel
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Post by ARUN on Sept 10, 2018 22:57:52 GMT -5
Just remember when it comes to time travel... where we're going, we don't need roads....
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Post by Hulkster2001 on Sept 11, 2018 6:57:37 GMT -5
If I could time travel, the world would be a much better place.. No 9/11, no Nazis, no Lincoln assassination, no Kennedy assassination, no Beatles, Elvis living, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2018 8:06:16 GMT -5
If I could time travel, the world would be a much better place.. No 9/11, no Nazis, no Lincoln assassination, no Kennedy assassination, no Beatles, Elvis living, etc. Who says it would be better?
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