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Post by theMOESIAH on Feb 11, 2018 18:34:13 GMT -5
If you're just talking U.S. based, it's 1. WWE 2. ROH 3. Impact? No way impact is ahead of ROH these days, look at the buildings paid ROH is doing compared to Impact, not even close. Probably PWG and other top indies could push Impact too depending on your metrics cause it's kind of a dead brand IMO. But considering NJPW sold out in 10 minutes the other day, I think pure popularity in U.S. among all promotions is pretty obviously: 1. WWE 2. NJPW 3. ROH Wrestling is still a television business more than an arena business, and Impact's TV deal is bigger than anything ROH has. I'm sure ROH is in more homes than TNA.
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Post by LA Times on Feb 11, 2018 20:38:25 GMT -5
Wrestling is still a television business more than an arena business, and Impact's TV deal is bigger than anything ROH has. I'm sure ROH is in more homes than TNA. What TV deal do they have?
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Post by TheLastDude on Feb 11, 2018 21:19:25 GMT -5
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Post by LA Times on Feb 11, 2018 21:32:33 GMT -5
Looks like they just have a regional syndication show.
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Post by TheLastDude on Feb 11, 2018 21:42:01 GMT -5
Looks like they just have a regional syndication show. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_Broadcast_GroupNo, it's not just regional. Even if you discount the fact that ROH is available on streaming services, I'm in the Northeast. If their deal with Sinclair was only to be broadcast regionally, I wouldn't be able to see it because most of the stations they own are in the South and Midwest. And I say deal in the loosest possible terms, because as noted in the quote and link above, Sinclair OWNS the company. But please, keep arguing for the sake of arguing.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Feb 11, 2018 23:00:12 GMT -5
Looks like they just have a regional syndication show. Sinclair Broadcasting owns more TV stations than just about any other company in country. They are either #2 or 3. Impact is on an obscure cable channel that few get and even fewer have heard of. Plus they've been all but run out of the PPV market, they had to move to Canada and their roster is almost entirely filled with unknowns. Meanwhile, ROH keeps growing. This conversation is beyond ridiculous.
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Post by winxclubflora on Feb 12, 2018 0:08:06 GMT -5
World Wrestling Entertainment, Lucha Underground, Total Nonstop Action Wrestling, Ring of Honor.
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Post by enigmafigs on Feb 12, 2018 8:15:44 GMT -5
If you're just talking U.S. based, it's 1. WWE 2. ROH 3. Impact? No way impact is ahead of ROH these days, look at the buildings paid ROH is doing compared to Impact, not even close. Probably PWG and other top indies could push Impact too depending on your metrics cause it's kind of a dead brand IMO. But considering NJPW sold out in 10 minutes the other day, I think pure popularity in U.S. among all promotions is pretty obviously: 1. WWE 2. NJPW 3. ROH Wrestling is still a television business more than an arena business, and Impact's TV deal is bigger than anything ROH has. Yeah. Imapct have the better brand, ROH have the better product.
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Post by enigmafigs on Feb 12, 2018 8:17:50 GMT -5
Wrestling is still a television business more than an arena business, and Impact's TV deal is bigger than anything ROH has. I'm sure ROH is in more homes than TNA. TNA have a deal in the UK which is wrestling's 2nd biggest market and probably TNA's biggest considering they get much bigger crowds here and their ratings aren't far off what they get in the US. Also, I believe TNA have a bigger TV deal than ROH in India as in its showed in more homes.
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Post by disorder on Feb 12, 2018 13:44:25 GMT -5
Wrestling is still a television business more than an arena business, and Impact's TV deal is bigger than anything ROH has. Yeah. Imapct have the better brand, ROH have the better product. The impact brand has been ran through the mud countless times. They’re a tarnished product
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Post by enigmafigs on Feb 13, 2018 3:00:15 GMT -5
Yeah. Imapct have the better brand, ROH have the better product. The impact brand has been ran through the mud countless times. They’re a tarnished product I meant that they are more recognisable to casual fans, have more international TV deals, at one point had more popularity etc. The word I should have used was 'bigger'.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 12:48:32 GMT -5
Its a shame that the NWA has essentially fallen off the map. I tune in every Saturday at 7 to watch Championship Wrestling from Hollywood on the C ingW of all channels.
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Post by BSR on Feb 14, 2018 0:35:07 GMT -5
Nxt is wwe. It doesn't count.
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Post by theicwguy on Feb 15, 2018 15:11:53 GMT -5
CZ f'n W!
Or combat zone wrestling as it's more commonly known as, lol.
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Post by bad guy™ on Feb 17, 2018 17:33:59 GMT -5
Personally, SHIMMER. But really, PWG.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Feb 17, 2018 18:04:19 GMT -5
I'm sure ROH is in more homes than TNA. TNA have a deal in the UK which is wrestling's 2nd biggest market and probably TNA's biggest considering they get much bigger crowds here and their ratings aren't far off what they get in the US. Also, I believe TNA have a bigger TV deal than ROH in India as in its showed in more homes. Okay fine, TNA is probably #2 in the UK but the topic of this conversation is determining who is #4 in America.
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Post by alanpartridge on Feb 21, 2018 7:53:07 GMT -5
5 Dollar Wrestling with the Freight Train.
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Post by Halloween King on Feb 21, 2018 8:30:58 GMT -5
I'll say Booker Ts. Reality of Wrestling.
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Post by A-Rob on Feb 21, 2018 17:50:25 GMT -5
In North America;
WWE ROH PWG CMLL House Of Hardcore AAA
Worldwide;
WWE New Japan ROH ICW Progress CMLL All Japan Dragon Gate Pro Wrestling NOAH AAA
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