hbkowns
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Post by hbkowns on Nov 21, 2017 13:38:09 GMT -5
As it was rumored for the past several months, Finn Balor was expected to face off with Brock Lesnar, presumably at the Royal Rumble. But apparently Vince has vetoed that plan.
Vince apparently doesn’t think that Bálor is over enough and doesn’t have faith in him. So they are now scrambling to find an opponent for Lesnar come January.
Vince must be out of his damn mind. Finn is over everywhere he goes, and the only reason why his stock has gone down is because of his wack feud with Wyatt, not to mention getting beated down by Kane two weeks in a row.
The logic of Vince is funny, he doesn’t think Finn is a main eventer, but had a nobody like Jinder Mahal carry the title for 6 months on a failed India project. Jeeeeze. This is why nobody gets over:
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Nov 21, 2017 13:43:44 GMT -5
As it was rumored for the past several months, Finn Balor was expected to face off with Brock Lesnar, presumably at the Royal Rumble. But apparently Vince has vetoed that plan. Vince apparently doesn’t think that Bálor is over enough and doesn’t have faith in him. So they are now scrambling to find an opponent for Lesnar come January. Vince must be out of his damn mind. Finn is over everywhere he goes, and the only reason why his stock has gone down is because of his wack feud with Wyatt, not to mention getting beated down by Kane two weeks in a row. The logic of Vince is funny, he doesn’t think Finn is a main eventer, but had a nobody like Jinder Mahal carry the title for 6 months on a failed India project. Jeeeeze. This is why nobody gets over: Failed India project? I didn't realize the CFO of WWE posted here. How much money has WWE made from WWE Network subscriptions in India, and what were the gates from the live events in India last month, and how many tickets so far have been sold for the December live event in India? I mean, clearly you have this information because India is confirmed to have been a huge failure for WWE.... |
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Post by The American Nightmare on Nov 21, 2017 13:46:29 GMT -5
At this point, they have built freaking Brock up sooooo much it feels like there isn't ANYBODY credible to beat him. Vince doesn't like small guys. Even with the reaction Daniel Bryan gets I think Vince is STILL skeptical of his star power lol. Let me preface my next statement with: Finn is tied (with Adam Cole) as my favorite wrestler active today, this being said however, Finn is small. You could see how tiny he is by comparison on Sunday at Survivor Series. If AJ wasn't given the opportunity to go over Brock, there is just no way Vince is gonna put Finn in that ring because he won't see Finn as a remotely believable threat to Brock. In a way, it's actually doing Finn a favor to not have to work with Brock. Not only his he sloppy in the ring, but he doesn't lose and now Finn doesn't have to be fed to Brock for no reason like Braun and Joe. Lesnar this title run has been booked SO poorly it's unreal. I don't understand what Vince thinks he's creating here but even with Brock as "unbeatable" as he is as soon as he is put into his WM 34 program with Reigns, we allll know how the story ends so it's pointless on every level.
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hbkowns
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Post by hbkowns on Nov 21, 2017 13:47:53 GMT -5
As it was rumored for the past several months, Finn Balor was expected to face off with Brock Lesnar, presumably at the Royal Rumble. But apparently Vince has vetoed that plan. Vince apparently doesn’t think that Bálor is over enough and doesn’t have faith in him. So they are now scrambling to find an opponent for Lesnar come January. Vince must be out of his damn mind. Finn is over everywhere he goes, and the only reason why his stock has gone down is because of his wack feud with Wyatt, not to mention getting beated down by Kane two weeks in a row. The logic of Vince is funny, he doesn’t think Finn is a main eventer, but had a nobody like Jinder Mahal carry the title for 6 months on a failed India project. Jeeeeze. This is why nobody gets over: Failed India project? I didn't realize the CFO of WWE posted here. How much money has WWE made from WWE Network subscriptions in India, and what were the gates from the live events in India last month, and how many tickets so far have been sold for the December live event in India? I mean, clearly you have this information because India is confirmed to have been a huge failure for WWE.... It’s already reported that the subscriber count in India hasn’t imporovednsince putting the title on Jinder. Ticket sales for the India tour were very underwhelming. It’s also why they canceled one of the shows and packed it into one super show. They also took the title off Jinder. So it couldn’t be more blantantly obvious. |
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Post by IRS on Nov 21, 2017 13:57:28 GMT -5
As it was rumored for the past several months, Finn Balor was expected to face off with Brock Lesnar, presumably at the Royal Rumble. But apparently Vince has vetoed that plan. Vince apparently doesn’t think that Bálor is over enough and doesn’t have faith in him. So they are now scrambling to find an opponent for Lesnar come January. Vince must be out of his damn mind. Finn is over everywhere he goes, and the only reason why his stock has gone down is because of his wack feud with Wyatt, not to mention getting beated down by Kane two weeks in a row. The logic of Vince is funny, he doesn’t think Finn is a main eventer, but had a nobody like Jinder Mahal carry the title for 6 months on a failed India project. Jeeeeze. This is why nobody gets over: Failed India project? I didn't realize the CFO of WWE posted here. How much money has WWE made from WWE Network subscriptions in India, and what were the gates from the live events in India last month, and how many tickets so far have been sold for the December live event in India? I mean, clearly you have this information because India is confirmed to have been a huge failure for WWE.... Anyone with eyes can see that the India project is a failure. And anyone with a brain could've predicted it. |
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Nov 21, 2017 13:59:17 GMT -5
Failed India project? I didn't realize the CFO of WWE posted here. How much money has WWE made from WWE Network subscriptions in India, and what were the gates from the live events in India last month, and how many tickets so far have been sold for the December live event in India? I mean, clearly you have this information because India is confirmed to have been a huge failure for WWE.... It’s already reported that the subscriber count in India hasn’t imporovednsince putting the title on Jinder. Ticket sales for the India tour were very underwhelming. It’s also why they canceled one of the shows and packed it into one super show. They also took the title off Jinder. So it couldn’t be more blantantly obvious. Jinder Mahal wins back the WWE Title tonight on Smackdown. The only reason AJ Styles even won the belt is because they needed somebody to lose to Brock and not have it hurt them. The WWE Title Match for WrestleMania is John Cena beating Jinder Mahal, so they didn't want Jinder to get crushed by Lesnar and then have to pretend to be on the level of John Cena. |
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Post by aggressiveperfectpoor on Nov 21, 2017 14:14:19 GMT -5
It’s already reported that the subscriber count in India hasn’t imporovednsince putting the title on Jinder. Ticket sales for the India tour were very underwhelming. It’s also why they canceled one of the shows and packed it into one super show. They also took the title off Jinder. So it couldn’t be more blantantly obvious. Jinder Mahal wins back the WWE Title tonight on Smackdown. The only reason AJ Styles even won the belt is because they needed somebody to lose to Brock and not have it hurt them. The WWE Title Match for WrestleMania is John Cena beating Jinder Mahal, so they didn't want Jinder to get crushed by Lesnar and then have to pretend to be on the level of John Cena. You know this how? Isn't Smackdown Live? |
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Post by J12 on Nov 21, 2017 14:14:49 GMT -5
As it was rumored for the past several months, Finn Balor was expected to face off with Brock Lesnar, presumably at the Royal Rumble. But apparently Vince has vetoed that plan. Vince apparently doesn’t think that Bálor is over enough and doesn’t have faith in him. So they are now scrambling to find an opponent for Lesnar come January. Vince must be out of his damn mind. Finn is over everywhere he goes, and the only reason why his stock has gone down is because of his wack feud with Wyatt, not to mention getting beated down by Kane two weeks in a row. The logic of Vince is funny, he doesn’t think Finn is a main eventer, but had a nobody like Jinder Mahal carry the title for 6 months on a failed India project. Jeeeeze. This is why nobody gets over: Failed India project? I didn't realize the CFO of WWE posted here. How much money has WWE made from WWE Network subscriptions in India, and what were the gates from the live events in India last month, and how many tickets so far have been sold for the December live event in India? I mean, clearly you have this information because India is confirmed to have been a huge failure for WWE.... They had to cancel one of the India dates because the shows were selling so poorly, and even with their single "super show" featuring Jinder Mahal, Triple H, and the whole Raw roster, the show isn't sold out. Oh, and the place is no bigger than the arenas WWE runs on a weekly basis. So, at absolute best, their single show with a "blockbuster main event" is selling about as well as an average Raw in middle America. Anyway, this is another one of Vince's self-fulfilling prophecies. You job a guy out to Kane and treat him like a throwaway star for months with the idea that you can rehab him in time to face Brock Lesnar, but then when it comes time to set up the match with Brock Lesnar, you decide the guy isn't over enough. Of course, he isn't over enough because he was jobbed out to Kane and treated like a throwaway star for months, but this will come down on Finn because he didn't do enough. |
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Nov 21, 2017 14:19:18 GMT -5
Jinder Mahal wins back the WWE Title tonight on Smackdown. The only reason AJ Styles even won the belt is because they needed somebody to lose to Brock and not have it hurt them. The WWE Title Match for WrestleMania is John Cena beating Jinder Mahal, so they didn't want Jinder to get crushed by Lesnar and then have to pretend to be on the level of John Cena. You know this how? Isn't Smackdown Live?  |
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Post by ahunter8056 on Nov 21, 2017 14:23:07 GMT -5
Surely the solution would be to build Balor up between now and the Royal Rumble, so that way Balor has credibility by then? No? It's both hilarious and aggravating how clueless and senile Vince is nowadays. It's entirely down to how poorly handled Finn Balor has been as to why he is not as credible a star as he was earlier in the year.
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Post by Rated [R] NinJa on Nov 21, 2017 14:25:56 GMT -5
It’s already reported that the subscriber count in India hasn’t imporovednsince putting the title on Jinder. Ticket sales for the India tour were very underwhelming. It’s also why they canceled one of the shows and packed it into one super show. They also took the title off Jinder. So it couldn’t be more blantantly obvious. Jinder Mahal wins back the WWE Title tonight on Smackdown. The only reason AJ Styles even won the belt is because they needed somebody to lose to Brock and not have it hurt them. The WWE Title Match for WrestleMania is John Cena beating Jinder Mahal, so they didn't want Jinder to get crushed by Lesnar and then have to pretend to be on the level of John Cena. I hope to god you’re right about that lol. As for OP, agreed. Balor isn’t over enough yet, minus his win over AJ Styles he’s been pretty meh on the main roster (not his fault, I blame booking) |
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Post by marino13 on Nov 21, 2017 14:44:15 GMT -5
Still say they should have had Finn defeat Miz last night then as a consolation prize. Then give us a good Joe vs Finn feud over the IC title. Build Finn up over the next few months and then go from there.
But to be fair, what would Finn get out of this match? How would he benefit? I mean, he would get some offense in, get suplexed 13 times, and eat an F5. Then he'd be right back where he is now.
IMO... turn him heel. Align him with Gallows and Anderson. And let them feud with The Shield. Fresh direction + fresh matches = win/win.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Nov 21, 2017 14:47:59 GMT -5
Except for Roman Reigns....Vince McMahon is notorious for not giving second chances.
-Look at what happened to Dolph Ziggler. Finally gets the WHC. Gets a concussion, no fault of his own....never gets another shot.
-Daniel Bryan, gets the WWE Title, gets injured, comes back, never allowed to get above the IC Title.
-Seth Rollins hasn't gotten anywhere near where he was before his injury.
-Finn Balor was the FIRST ever Universal Champion....gets injured, floundered since coming back.
We don't know what would have happened if Finn had never got hurt....clearly he was in line for a big push at some point, but Vince may have turned the page.
I'd put Finn on Smackdown....he's got a better shot over there. Brock, Roman, and Braun are way bigger and ahead of him in the pecking order.
On Smackdown, he could realistically pick off somebody like AJ or Jinder. Orton really isn't a main event factor these days, and that's pretty much it for CREDIBLE singles wrestlers until Cena wins the Rumble and challenges Jinder. I don't see Nakamura or Roode in line for a major WWE Title push anytime soon. Vince hates Ziggler, Corbin sucks, Rusev is a joke, and pretty much everyone else is in a Tag Team.
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Post by HHH316 on Nov 21, 2017 14:48:03 GMT -5
Honestly, this doesn't bother me too much. We all know that Brock would win. I'd rather Balor have a meaningful shot at the title after Reigns takes it at WM.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 14:59:24 GMT -5
As it was rumored for the past several months, Finn Balor was expected to face off with Brock Lesnar, presumably at the Royal Rumble. But apparently Vince has vetoed that plan. Vince apparently doesn’t think that Bálor is over enough and doesn’t have faith in him. So they are now scrambling to find an opponent for Lesnar come January. Vince must be out of his damn mind. Finn is over everywhere he goes, and the only reason why his stock has gone down is because of his wack feud with Wyatt, not to mention getting beated down by Kane two weeks in a row. The logic of Vince is funny, he doesn’t think Finn is a main eventer, but had a nobody like Jinder Mahal carry the title for 6 months on a failed India project. Jeeeeze. This is why nobody gets over: Failed India project? I didn't realize the CFO of WWE posted here. How much money has WWE made from WWE Network subscriptions in India, and what were the gates from the live events in India last month, and how many tickets so far have been sold for the December live event in India? I mean, clearly you have this information because India is confirmed to have been a huge failure for WWE.... Hey hypocrite, you recently made a post like you know how Mattel works, I mean, clearly since you work there and all - forum.wrestlingfigs.com/post/8321867 |
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Nov 21, 2017 15:06:47 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar would destroy Finn Balor so if your a fan of him why would you want to see this match?
Also Finn would gain nothing from it and join a long list of guys Brock has conquered.
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Post by IRS on Nov 21, 2017 15:07:52 GMT -5
If they had booked it like AJ/Brock? I would've been excited to see the match. But we all know they likely wouldn't have, unless he went into it as The Demon.
I fully believe he should've been the one to take the IC Title off Miz last night. There's zero reason why Reigns needed that belt over him, other than "make Roman look strong" until he wins the Rumble. Like Marino said, Joe/Balor for the IC Title could've been great, and it actually could've helped elevate the title some.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Nov 21, 2017 15:19:40 GMT -5
Failed India project? I didn't realize the CFO of WWE posted here. How much money has WWE made from WWE Network subscriptions in India, and what were the gates from the live events in India last month, and how many tickets so far have been sold for the December live event in India? I mean, clearly you have this information because India is confirmed to have been a huge failure for WWE.... Hey hypocrite, you recently made a post like you know how Mattel works, I mean, clearly since you work there and all - forum.wrestlingfigs.com/post/8321867I didn't pretend to know their earnings reports, I was just making an observation at some weird patterns that don't make any sense if it's being chosen by a PERSON. Why give Elite Big Cass different arms than Basic Big Cass, for example? Why give Elite Sheamus different arms than Basic Sheamus? Why do Basic Macho Man and Ted DiBiase get short boots, but ELITE Macho Man and Ted DiBiase get tall boots? Just a few examples. I think Bill is deciding on deco, but the formulas for Elite and Basic superstar parts are in some database someplace and that's how the product actually gets made. Because there is no way Bill is sitting there and picking parts individually and just selecting the same different parts for Elites and Basics EVERY TIME. It's not like it happened in one situation, it's 100% of the time that it happens. I don't want to get the thread off topic so if you want to discuss it more, shoot me a PM. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 15:27:52 GMT -5
Well Finn just beat AJ clean, who just looked pretty damn credible against Brock. So none of this makes sense.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Nov 21, 2017 15:45:13 GMT -5
Finn isn't really credible against Brock. His booking and performances since coming back from injury haven't been main event level. He should be in the IC title mix, though. I don't see what Roman Reigns gains from being the IC champ, it's just like when he was US champ this time last year. Perhaps there'll be some kind of new Shield split and they'll fight over the belt, but I'm not sure that's the right way to go.
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your dumbass “list”.
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