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Post by Bandalero on Nov 19, 2017 23:07:18 GMT -5
really weird main event booking and says a lot about who actually runs creative.
They booked Nakamura, Roode, Joe & Finn to hit the road and kept the 45+ stars to the end. Braun's worth is definitely sky-high because they booked him to stand tall which is great - they can create the next mega star out of him for sure. But it doesn't say a lot for all the other guys.
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Post by AHCOtep on Nov 19, 2017 23:09:31 GMT -5
I think we just need to wait until the rumble to see what mania has instored for us...this ppv served no purpose....and further more I think Wyatt goes hosed out of this card
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Post by blissfan4life on Nov 19, 2017 23:11:59 GMT -5
In no ing way Should Brock have gone over AJ. Brock, he is a parasite, and a piece of crapand he needs to retire.... Stop burying people.
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Post by AHCOtep on Nov 19, 2017 23:13:59 GMT -5
Do you really see the heat of this storyline lasting 5 months? HHH eliminates JJ from the Royal Rumble and Kurt gets HHH eliminated obviously. I don't see HHH in the rumble match but I agree on that he will cause JJ to be eliminated from the rumble.I just don't see HHH once again being the ultimate part timer now and just saving himself for mania robbing the young talent of the limelight
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 23:16:36 GMT -5
The thing is...
It's just hard to envision it making that much of a difference when Roman defeats Brock at Wrestlemania. What fan demographic will really like Roman that much more because of it?
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Post by Sizzle on Nov 19, 2017 23:20:51 GMT -5
Lmao. It's happening again. The burying talk.
The matches I saw I enjoyed, for the most part. Wasn't a fan of the Bliss and Charlotte encounter as much as I would've liked to be. Glad Charlotte won though. Alexa does not need to be beating THE QUEEN. Brock over AJ was the only option. AJ beating him while Strowman, Joe, and literally everyone else loses to him would've felt weird, as much of an AJ Styles fan I am. I enjoyed the main event quite a lot. Braun looked so good and you can tell they were adding to a lot of the other feuds in the match.
Great PPV. WWE is looking good right now.
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Post by Rontaro13 on Nov 19, 2017 23:22:32 GMT -5
I enjoyed everything on Survivor Series except for the two elimination matches. At least the woman's match ended with Asuka being the sole survivor after racking up 3 eliminations. The main event was just awful. Strowman eliminated Shinsuke, Roode, and Orton like they were nothing. Angle, Cena, Joe, and Balor all barely got any action inside the ring. And that ending was the dumbest thing I've ever seen. I feel like the whole purpose of this match was to make Strowman look good. This match didn't even feel like it was about brand supremacy. It felt like it was about making Stephanie McMahon happy. This match had all the potential in the world, and fell flat.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Nov 19, 2017 23:22:49 GMT -5
I really liked how the main event went. Then again, I am a fan of Braun Strowman and Triple H. So that's probably why.
As for the entire show, I thought it was good. I wasn't bored by it. It kept my interest for the whole time. So I enjoyed it.
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Post by cordless2016 on Nov 19, 2017 23:24:01 GMT -5
I was thoroughly enjoying the event until the main event, and that was one of my most anticipated matches of the night.
Imagine if Roode, Nakamura, Finn or Joe made it to the end? It would have done wonders for any of them. Instead they were all in there to take pinfalls and nothing else. Why should we care about them?
AJ looked like a million bucks loosing to Brock because Brock made him look like a legit threat. He sold for him during and after the match. Nakamura and Roode didn’t get that. They both were booked like geeks by posing in front of HHH and getting hit in the face (Roode looked like a bigger idiot by doing it after Nakamura made the mistake first).
Joe and Balor came out the exact same as going in (no momentum before or after the match) and feuding because there’s nothing else for them to do.
Cena was there to sell tickets... and to pin Joe. Same with Orton and Balor.
Strowman was booked well early, but being down so long after the table spot made him look weak considering he walked away minutes after an ambulance crash earlier this year.
Fun to see Angle get to work again in a WWE ring (we didn’t see the “real” Kurt at TLC).
HHH was up to his old trolling self. The latest “McMahon turmoil” took presidence over everything else as usual.
They could have accomplished the whole “HHH/Kurt/Shane/Braun” turmoil earlier in the match and still end it with two of the other guys I mentioned earlier.
Everything pre-main event: **** (one of the more entertaining shows this year) Main event: *
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Post by Chip on Nov 19, 2017 23:39:56 GMT -5
i honestly expected more from the card they built up, but then i remembered what company i was watching.... i thought Shield/New Day was a tremendous disappointment. It was sloppy, all over the place, had no real flow...no heat. The guys were just tagging in and out at random which made zero sense. Some of the spots were ok I guess but I just didn't get anything really good out of the match. And it was laughable that Reigns was in his tac gear while Ambrose and Rollins had to look like the geeks in the halfsies shirts....so stupid. IC match was alright. Nothing special or memorable. Surprised Corbin won, but he needed a victory like that more than Miz did. Usos/Bar was ok. Probably the best match of the night TBH. I didn't want the Usos to win but thats personal preference. I just felt like it was a decent match, but nothing ill remember or want to go back to watch someday. Thats kind of how the whole night was to be honest. I was honestly surprised at how good AJ/Brock was. They actually let AJ wrestle. Brock showed up to play. I think he only hit like 4 germans.....crazy stuff. The story about AJ getting the ever loving crapkicked out of him but making a comeback and taking Brock to the limit was good. There was zero chance AJ was gonna win because that doesnt help Reigns....but still, it was WAY better than I thought it was going to be and I'll give credit to Brock for actually wanting to work a match. The main event was just garbage. The beginning was great with them giving the crowd all the "moments" they wanted like Finn/Shinsuke, HHH/Roode. But then it slowly de-volved into HHH & Angle vs Orton Cena & Shane...I'm like, come the on. They managed to make everyone else in the match look like complete fools. What was the point of Roode? he had like zero offense and I didn't even realize he had gotten eliminated when he did. Nakamura being the first out, wow. Then Cena, the guy who literally kicks out of 589 finishers gets pinned by a 2x Angle Slam? holy what a mess. Then Trips turns on just Angle, and stares at Braun for 18 minutes, only to pedigree Shane and we're left with HHH standing tall. But then of course Braun with the powerslam because new megastar. The main event was a ing disaster, on every level. Where the end result is just Braun powerslamming HHH while all the other guys you think they'd want to build up a little bit just looked like chumps most of the night. It started off pretty awesome, was built up nicely too....but in the end it was ruined by complete lack of touch on what your audience actually wants. it wasn't "worst show ever' level or anything, but for ALL the buildup and potential i think this show severely underdelivered. and i cant wait for RAW tomorrow and Cole to tell us it was the greatest Survivor Series of all time
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Nov 19, 2017 23:45:02 GMT -5
Kurt Angle looks like he’s wrestling with a turtle shell made of glass on his back and he’s trying not to break it. He has no business being in a ring, he looks horrible. He’s absolutely broken down and hurting
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Post by TurboEddie on Nov 20, 2017 0:04:52 GMT -5
Confusing main event. It had no direction. I didn’t like how one-sided it was either. SmackDown was no threat at all.
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Post by Darkhawk on Nov 20, 2017 0:17:29 GMT -5
Screw it, I thought the PPV was great for what it was. To those complaining about wrestlers getting eliminated in the 5 vs. 5 match, all wrestlers except Shane were top guys. Somebody has to take a fall and get eliminated because not everyone can stand tall unless it's Braun I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 0:28:52 GMT -5
Angle looked awful in the main event. So so slow and even when I've seen him standing in his suit he looks in pain and hunched over. He's obviously done. I get that people want to see him wrestle again but it's a no from me.
It was really weird that in the middle of the match the crowd just went completely dead. I think there was too much stopping and staredowns and messing around. They probably got a little bored.
Guys were lying on the ground for an eternity after being hit with like one move. Shane standing on the ramp with the chair while Orton got pinned was stupid af. And it just took too long for the double cross and then for strowman to grab hhh.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 0:32:15 GMT -5
Another thing. How ing annoying were the commentators. My god. Constant bickering and talking absolute nonsense. I can't stand any of them.
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Post by ricochet05 on Nov 20, 2017 0:43:25 GMT -5
in regards to AJ and Lesnar - Busted Open Radio said it best - one of them will go over, and one of them will get over.
Brock went over AJ with the win, but AJ got over with everyone for that performance.
Also the main event was shit, the real winning brand of survivor series weekend was NXT.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 0:47:34 GMT -5
Braun Strowman is great.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 0:51:08 GMT -5
Lesnar was always gonna beat aj. They are saving brocks downfall at wrestlemania for one man and one man only. The same guy who beat braun strowman clean as well.
Kurt made flair at the end of his career look like the flash with how slow he was. Sad to see.
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Post by rkmo: The FOCUS Method on Nov 20, 2017 0:52:17 GMT -5
There was only one thing wrong with the main event: some young, hungry go-getters like Big Show, Mark Henry, or Kane to fill out the teams.
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Post by #DI-WHY? on Nov 20, 2017 1:05:46 GMT -5
I never would've imagined that the first 4 eliminated would be Nakamura, Roode, Joe, Balor.
I never would've thought that this would just be HHH + Angle vs Orton and Shane.
I never would've dreamed Shane would just run off Zayn and Owens like they're nothing after taking a huge beating all match
WWE literally just took a match that had more potential than any match had this year, and just pissed on it to inflate the bosses' egos even more.
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