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Post by marino13 on Mar 1, 2017 7:51:31 GMT -5
Personally I think SD is making things harder on themselves.
They should have had Bray sitting on the stage watching AJ vs Harper compete. Out of nowhere Orton jumps the guardrail and give an RKO to both AJ & Luke. Bray looks confused. Then Randy could grab the mic and declare that he is still the number 1 contender. Bray's angry, Randy's yelling, show ends.
I'd be less convoluted than what they chose to do IMO. Because this whole thing is a mess. I'd be different if there was another PPV for SD where Orton could face AJ. But there isn't. And that match up is too good to give away on free TV.
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Post by revolution on Mar 1, 2017 8:29:20 GMT -5
However the AJ thing goes down I want AJ to demand a match with Shane, he denies says he will find someone. .
nakamura
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Post by bigshab421 on Mar 1, 2017 8:40:22 GMT -5
However the AJ thing goes down I want AJ to demand a match with Shane, he denies says he will find someone. . nakamura Clearly isn't happening. Shane is basically the heel in this "feud." Bringing in a super babyface like Shinsuke would be a mistake. |
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Post by Gone. on Mar 1, 2017 8:46:08 GMT -5
However the AJ thing goes down I want AJ to demand a match with Shane, he denies says he will find someone. . nakamura Clearly isn't happening. Shane is basically the heel in this "feud." Bringing in a super babyface like Shinsuke would be a mistake. But he's not a heel. AJ is. |
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Post by bigshab421 on Mar 1, 2017 9:09:41 GMT -5
Clearly isn't happening. Shane is basically the heel in this "feud." Bringing in a super babyface like Shinsuke would be a mistake. But he's not a heel. AJ is.
Say what you will, but every crowd through all demographics are cheering for Styles. They may talk about him as a heel, but he really is a face. |
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Post by havoc7179 on Mar 1, 2017 9:10:55 GMT -5
However the AJ thing goes down I want AJ to demand a match with Shane, he denies says he will find someone. . nakamura I would love it to go down similar to that. AJ can simply say "I have taken out every roadblock/obstacle you placed in front of me. I am owed a WWE Title rematch. I earned a WWE Title match. I have beaten everybody you've thrown at me. I've beaten everybody the world has thrown at me" Shane could say: "Not everybody." And out comes Nakamura. (I believe AJ and Nakamura only had the one match right? And AJ lost if memory serves me right.) |
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Post by weaseltv on Mar 1, 2017 9:32:50 GMT -5
I'm thinking AJ gets a title shot on Smackdown before WM. And in some way AJ doesn't win and doesn't like the outcome. AJ feels like he's been cheated out of a wrestlemania moment and wants to take it out on Shane.
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Post by The Future on Mar 1, 2017 10:18:46 GMT -5
This whole thing with AJ is absolutely stupid. Makes no sense in kayfabe to strip a man of a title shot he earned just because the guy who forfeited his shot wants it now. The only thing that'd be fair is to make it a triple threat, but I guess they really want this Orton/Wyatt program The scenario i would want to see is for Shane and Daniel to announce that yes AJ beat Harper last week, so he did earn a shot at Mania, but Orton was the winner of the Rumble, so both men get the title shot, BUT, Shane remembered that AJ mentioned in his interview before the match that its a shame that there wasn't another camera angle of the battle royal, and Shane happened to find another camera angle of the finish of the battle royal, to show that AJs feet touched first, so technically Harper earned the title shot before AJ, so the fair thing to do is to make the World Title match at Mania a 4 way. That way, AJ gets a title shot at Mania, Harper gets involved, and the Wyatt Family stoty continues I think you're spot on here--BUT I think the world title match becomes a triple threat with Harper / Wyatt / Randy & we ultimately get Shane vs. AJ because Shane changes the match on a technicality. |
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Post by tiny04 on Mar 1, 2017 10:34:30 GMT -5
Arson
Desecrated a grave and burnt the body
Killed an innocent cameraman
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Post by Chip on Mar 1, 2017 11:36:39 GMT -5
wait....i didnt see Talking Smack Shane took AJ's title shot away? Thats completely  ing stupid. Pointless storytelling and a WASTE of time. Everything is just all over the place. It's like they are just throwing darts at a dartboard every week. |
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Post by Gone. on Mar 1, 2017 11:46:41 GMT -5
wait....i didnt see Talking Smack Shane took AJ's title shot away? Thats completely ing stupid. Pointless storytelling and a WASTE of time. Everything is just all over the place. It's like they are just throwing darts at a dartboard every week. No, he didn't. You should watch talkIngSmack. It's good. |
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Post by Team Madness on Mar 1, 2017 12:04:51 GMT -5
I hate triple threat matches! Especially at mania. It just ruins the Ora of a legit title fight.
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Post by J12 on Mar 1, 2017 12:09:26 GMT -5
wait....i didnt see Talking Smack Shane took AJ's title shot away? Thats completely ing stupid. Pointless storytelling and a WASTE of time. Everything is just all over the place. It's like they are just throwing darts at a dartboard every week. Not yet, it's just painfully obvious that's the direction we're headed toward. Either Styles loses to Orton on Smackdown, or Styles loses to Wyatt on Smackdown. Either way, they blow off a match that could (and should) headline a Pay-Per-View, piss a huge segment of the fan base off, and give two Wrestlemania matches a lot of people don't want to see. |
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Post by Bandalero on Mar 1, 2017 14:28:54 GMT -5
But he's not a heel. AJ is.
Say what you will, but every crowd through all demographics are cheering for Styles. They may talk about him as a heel, but he really is a face. Logic? To be fair, this is WWE - logic is out the window! AJ is booked as a heel, he disses the crowd, he doesn't shake hands with DB, he portrays a huge ego, he steals wins. Shane on the other hand panders to the crowd, looks for cheap pops, steps in for the baby faces (like he did for Harper last night). On paper, they are both doing what they should be doing as a heel and face. The thing is, people love AJ and chant for him regardless. We are used to heel authority putting up obstacles for the face, however the roles are reversed here - which makes it kind of unique/refreshing. But make no mistake, WWE is scripting AJ as a heel, and to his credit he's playing the roll, not endearing himself to the crowd in the least. It is a testament to how professional he is, especially when he would diss the crowd during his spats with Cena on the mic. |
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Post by Will on Mar 1, 2017 15:16:27 GMT -5
Please don't give away Orton Vs Styles Especially on free TV!!!! And David otunga doesn't deserve to call this match!!
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Post by punksnotdead on Mar 1, 2017 15:32:35 GMT -5
I was totally shocked that AJ won the match against Harper. It was weird too. Like Shane got kicked, and then AJ looked like he almost didn't know what to do and then won with the springboard 450 that I was sure Harper was kicking out of, and he landed on his knees no less. The whole thing just felt strange.
Screwing AJ out of a title shot at Mania is going to piss people off imo. I'd rather see a Fatal 4-way, with Orton not really caring because he's more about burning Bray to the ground than anything else. AJ wants the title back, Harper wants Orton and Bray, and Bray just wants to make it out alive. So WrestleMania 2000 the sh*t and keep Shane out of the ring.
Alexa Bliss was great last night. I think they've really squandered the potential between Mickie and Becky by treating Mickie like she's a speed bump on the way to Alexa. Da fuq does Natty have anything to do with anything? What a weird way to pigeon hole her into something.
The Miz and Cena segment was amazing until the women got involved. Then it turned into real housewives of WWE. Miz kind of got buried out there, largely just because he couldn't respond. Cena didn't hold anything back though. Miz doesn't get enough credit for bringing that out of guys, but he does that exact thing almost weekly with someone.
I really hate that Ziggler is firing off as a heel right now and the best they can do with it is aim it at Crews, who has no character, and people don't care to cheer for him even if they'll boo Dolph. I think Ziggler is due for some cosmetic changes though. Be it the music, or attire colors, he needs to switch gears.
Randy burning down the barn was visually really cool to watch but his "betrayal" of Bray was so poorly done imo. At no point did anyone believe he was a member of the Wyatts. I wish they would have gone all-in with him so that moment meant so much more.
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Post by Dan on Mar 1, 2017 16:15:44 GMT -5
Brilliant episode of Smackdown, but a few things are definitely confusing. If it's now staying as Bray Wyatt vs Randy Orton at Wrestlemania, then this whole merry go round revolving a third addition to the Match hasn't really done anybody any favours at all. Having AJ Styles win makes no sense whatsoever. He either remains a third wheel in part of a Triple Threat, despite a feud between Orton & Bray being built solidly for months, purely for the sake of having him in a meaningful Match on the Card. Or, he faces Shane, in which nobody will now want to see since he'll be getting stripped from a Title shot. Shane surely will have to be the heel as that in itself would turn AJ babyface.
The closing segment was visually impressive, however, it was a strange way to force Orton's long awaited turn on Bray so suddenly. I feel this easily could have and should have happened inside the ring, as this burning down the house vignette could have still happened at any time along the way. It would even have been suitable for the go home to Mania show. It just felt strange that despite months of the pair being together, that Orton would just announce his parting with Bray in a pre taped video segment while Bray was left pretty awkwardly alone in the ring.
Miz TV was a brilliant segment though. Cena's non-selling of the Miz's promo frustrated me like always, as he should really realise it only makes him better by putting over and selling his opponents promo's. But still, Cena's response on the mic (despite pretty heavily exposing the Miz in the process), was worded emphatically. It was quite surreal to hear Cena acknowledge the Undertaker Match that's been notched again, and the closing line was executed perfectly. It then went straight back to reality however when the women got involved and it quickly became a throwaway. While I get and appreciate Cena's reasoning for mentioning Taker, it does still baffle me that we are then suppose to care about him facing a guy who he has quite literally made a joke of after teasing the Match everyone has wanted for the best part of a decade.
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Post by McBlake on Mar 1, 2017 16:21:07 GMT -5
Am I the only one that absolutely loved how they pulled off the Orton turning on Bray angle?
As much as it pains me to say it, but AJ belongs nowhere near this Wyatt feud. I'd hate to see him shoehorned in a personal feud like that just because it's for the title.
Like everyone keeps saying he's yet to have a ONE ON ONE title rematch. It will come, just after Mania.
Let him have his feud with Shane at Mania. He deserves better undoubtedly, but he continues to be booked like a badass and his time will come again.
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Post by @brit_figs on Mar 1, 2017 17:45:30 GMT -5
I love how everyone is now like WTH IS GOING ON when a few weeks ago it was 'Cena vs Orton at mania, how predictable' 😂
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Mar 1, 2017 18:36:07 GMT -5
There's one more thing that Cena left off his list of things Miz stole... the WM 27 main event spot from Punk.
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