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Post by NYdream™ on Jun 18, 2008 1:09:53 GMT -5
No Sandy, I wasn't referring to you. Not everything involves you cowboy. Good. Just checking. Because I have about 2 pounds of super sculpey just waiting to be used. To Titantrap. As far as older customizers talking about the "good ol' days"...why the hell not? A very small margin of us have been around doing this sh** since the days of hasbro and BCA. So it is a hard adjustment to see how much the world of customizing has changed. The top tier of customizers have changed. They are amazing but they keep customs as close as a JAKKS product as possible. Whereas back "in the day" customizers would put their own stamp on a custom so that when you saw it you knew exactly who did it. You could tell a Baity custom from a Tinyman custom. A CK custom from a Rich custom. etc. etc. Back then people weren't afraid to try new things like full torso, head, arms, or body sculpts. Nowadays an old school dude accustomed to trying those things would beat the majority of this board if the stipulation was a full body sculpt. How many of you have tried a full head sculpt? How many of you paint your own skintones? How many of you modify heads instead of constantly using real scan?It is just the small things that separate then from now. The only ones capable of doing that stuff now would be Beyondo, famousj, jsh(but he is kind of old school), and a couple of others. in my defense. i am just starting to pick up on those techniques and abilities. i am doing a fhs right now!!! ;D i might PM you for tips and pointers if you dont mind??? |
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Post by HR2X on Jun 18, 2008 1:13:03 GMT -5
No Sandy, I wasn't referring to you. Not everything involves you cowboy. Good. Just checking. Because I have about 2 pounds of super sculpey just waiting to be used. To Titantrap. As far as older customizers talking about the "good ol' days"...why the hell not? A very small margin of us have been around doing this sh** since the days of hasbro and BCA. So it is a hard adjustment to see how much the world of customizing has changed. The top tier of customizers have changed. They are amazing but they keep customs as close as a JAKKS product as possible. Whereas back "in the day" customizers would put their own stamp on a custom so that when you saw it you knew exactly who did it. You could tell a Baity custom from a Tinyman custom. A CK custom from a Rich custom. etc. etc. Back then people weren't afraid to try new things like full torso, head, arms, or body sculpts. Nowadays an old school dude accustomed to trying those things would beat the majority of this board if the stipulation was a full body sculpt. How many of you have tried a full head sculpt? How many of you paint your own skintones? How many of you modify heads instead of constantly using real scan? It is just the small things that separate then from now. The only ones capable of doing that stuff now would be Beyondo, famousj, jsh(but he is kind of old school), and a couple of others. Sandy get off your ass and start something. Do another RVD.. |
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Post by Titantrap: Gold Club Veteran on Jun 18, 2008 1:28:16 GMT -5
Well Sandy, I paint my own skintones on most figures, I modify heads, i modify torsos, I sculpt hair and musculature...the only thing i haven't done is a FHS, which i may do someday...you never know...but the reason i mentioned people constantly talking about the "good old days" is because I'm tired of hearing it. I don't care if i'm like those guys, because i'm not those guys. I do my own work, and i have to satisfy no one but me. I don't need to hear people crying like a bunch of senior citizens talking about the 50's. Nostalgia has its place, like that thread about old customs. Personally, i'm not here to hear about the old days, i'm here to make my own way.
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Post by Importracer on Jun 18, 2008 1:35:53 GMT -5
Well i been painting skintones and sculpting and doing alot of face transplants.I know what i can do it's just alot of times i get lazy and take the easy way out.Once my work dies down you all will see customs with alot more detail then my last few.
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Post by Gonzo Customs on Jun 18, 2008 1:40:34 GMT -5
You're not going to bait me into a match Gonzo because you don't deserve it. You're terrible, you've never done anything. It amazes me the replies you get on here, people talking about how much they like your work, it's like I'm living in a crazy house. Keep talking about the good ol' days and how you're going to kill the trends and whatnot, I just have one question......... If everyone on this board now is better then you, how far down on the totem pole were you back when this board was amazing? You're not even a has been, you're a never was. You're right, I'm "twisting turning through the never, that never was" I am a nobody. However, I beat you. But then again, you are a nobody too. Don't worry about me baiting you into a match, I already did that and won. For our 2nd match, I say lets do another non title, indy wrestler stip. Maybe you can do another one of your Colt Cabanas... I know... lets have a paint a skintone requirement stip... Sometime after the ppv is fine with me, I can wait. What say you, sir? |
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Post by Sandy on Jun 18, 2008 1:55:19 GMT -5
Well Sandy, I paint my own skintones on most figures, I modify heads, i modify torsos, I sculpt hair and musculature...the only thing i haven't done is a FHS, which i may do someday...you never know...but the reason i mentioned people constantly talking about the "good old days" is because I'm tired of hearing it. I don't care if i'm like those guys, because i'm not those guys. I do my own work, and i have to satisfy no one but me. I don't need to hear people crying like a bunch of senior citizens talking about the 50's. Nostalgia has its place, like that thread about old customs. Personally, i'm not here to hear about the old days, i'm here to make my own way. Nice. But isn't it funny when those wacky threads about the old customizers comes up and people post pictures that those old customizers made that everyone has seen a thousand times get more replies than the majority of the people who post nowadays? Why do you think that is? If you are here to make your own way then cool. But are you doing anything creatively that people are going to be saying "wow remember titantraps customs?" And if it wasn't for those old customizers you wouldn't be doing what you are doing right now. |
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Post by Importracer on Jun 18, 2008 2:05:23 GMT -5
Well Sandy, I paint my own skintones on most figures, I modify heads, i modify torsos, I sculpt hair and musculature...the only thing i haven't done is a FHS, which i may do someday...you never know...but the reason i mentioned people constantly talking about the "good old days" is because I'm tired of hearing it. I don't care if i'm like those guys, because i'm not those guys. I do my own work, and i have to satisfy no one but me. I don't need to hear people crying like a bunch of senior citizens talking about the 50's. Nostalgia has its place, like that thread about old customs. Personally, i'm not here to hear about the old days, i'm here to make my own way. Nice. But isn't it funny when those wacky threads about the old customizers comes up and people post pictures that those old customizers made that everyone has seen a thousand times get more replies than the majority of the people who post nowadays? Why do you think that is? If you are here to make your own way then cool. But are you doing anything creatively that people are going to be saying "wow remember titantraps customs?" And if it wasn't for those old customizers you wouldn't be doing what you are doing right now. Well i will give credit where it is due.It's guy's like you and the others sandy is why i started doing customs. |
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Post by gatecitysinner on Jun 18, 2008 2:07:02 GMT -5
Jesus Christ, we get it................ Sandy good, Gate bad. Let it go.
Gonzo, I'm not going to waste parts on you, and even if we did a match I wouldn't do something as lame as "custom skintones". I'll admit this, when it comes to painting horribly pink, chalky skintones you are way better then me pal.
I also love the little Cabana shot you took at me. Funny, those were for orders. How many people buy your stuff? I figured semi-posed sunburned Steve Williams' would be flying off the shelves at every major toy store.
Do us all a favor and focus your attention on someone who's more at your level, and that'd be your opponent for the next show. For I, I am way above you my friend.
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Post by Sandy on Jun 18, 2008 2:20:29 GMT -5
Jesus Christ, we get it................ Sandy good, Gate bad. Let it go. I wasn't talking about a competition or anything. Just if you were talking about me in your previous post I guess that would have had to be the motivation to actually make something. But it wasn't about me so its cool beans. I like your work. I've told you numerous times you are one of the ONLY guys who can get away with making a JAKKS like custom. |
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Post by tibbs1984 on Jun 18, 2008 4:28:03 GMT -5
I just want to applaud Gate for working a Happy Days reference into match hype. One small clarification about my knowledge of tv shows, it's limited to the 60's 70's 80's and 90's. I'm lost for the most part on 50's and today. Hell, I just saw the show Scrubs for the first time on rerun about a month ago. That show is funny!
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Post by Titantrap: Gold Club Veteran on Jun 18, 2008 7:00:34 GMT -5
Well Sandy, I paint my own skintones on most figures, I modify heads, i modify torsos, I sculpt hair and musculature...the only thing i haven't done is a FHS, which i may do someday...you never know...but the reason i mentioned people constantly talking about the "good old days" is because I'm tired of hearing it. I don't care if i'm like those guys, because i'm not those guys. I do my own work, and i have to satisfy no one but me. I don't need to hear people crying like a bunch of senior citizens talking about the 50's. Nostalgia has its place, like that thread about old customs. Personally, i'm not here to hear about the old days, i'm here to make my own way. Nice. But isn't it funny when those wacky threads about the old customizers comes up and people post pictures that those old customizers made that everyone has seen a thousand times get more replies than the majority of the people who post nowadays? Why do you think that is? If you are here to make your own way then cool. But are you doing anything creatively that people are going to be saying "wow remember titantraps customs?" And if it wasn't for those old customizers you wouldn't be doing what you are doing right now. I fail to see what your point is in this comment. People like nostalgia, as proven by Hulk Hogans last few WWE trips. And as i said it has its place. As far as will people remember me, maybe they will, maybe they won't. I could care less, i suppose the hundreds of people who have purchased my work will remember me. I suppose that even more people will remember Gate that bought his work. But in the grand scheme of things, does it really matter. I'm a grown man, going on 28 years old. I have a good marriage and a baby daughter who i adore, a lot of great friends and an overall successful life. I love to customize, but it doesn't define my life. Will it break my heart if no one remembers me if i ever stop customizing? No, it won't. Do i want to be remembered in some way? I guess so, doesn't everyone. But honestly, and this isn't a knock on you personally, but wheni think of you, i can't think of any of your work specifically, but i do remember the attitude that comes forth when you comment about others work. Sometimes you come across intelligently and well spoken, but often it's bitter, snarky comments that look worse on you then the person you're putting down. I respect all of those who came before me, but i don't need to spend to the rest of my life hearing how great they were, or cow towing to the ones who come back just to let the new generation know how inferior we are. |
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Post by oozingmachismo on Jun 18, 2008 9:02:02 GMT -5
Honestly, the whole old school name-dropping gets on my nerves sometimes, too. I understand the differences in the work between then and now. I understand what people like Baity were capable of. I think it's safe to say that most people on this board do as well. Why do I need to hear about it at every given opportunity?
Bottom line - we all get it.
I like to think I've improved since I first started. Maybe someday in the future I'll be at an "old school level", maybe not. I will say, though, that any inspiration to get to that level diminishes greatly when people are constantly comparing today's work to yesterday's work in a negative fashion. If someone busts out a fantastic figure, and someone comes along and says it's "no M2K custom", not only do you take the wind out of someone's creative sails, but you also give the person the impression that you might be looking at the past through rose-colored glasses, and, for that reason, they'll never get to that level. Not to mention, I have no desire to be compared to anyone at all. Is that what I'm working for? So one day someone can say my work I reminds them of Chinese Chicken's? Sorry, but it's not. Sure I'd like to be remembered. BUT... A) I won't be heartbroken if I'm not. Hell, current people barely remember that I'm here right now, as it is. And, B) If I'm remembered, I'd like it to be on the merits of my own work, not because it can be compared to someone else's.
I dunno, maybe I sound bitter, but, outside of some cheap name-dropping, I don't see the point of constantly bringing up the good ol' days when everyone around here already knows what it was all about.
In other news, this PPV is looking strong. Don't be surprised if the entire world completely explodes due to the awesomeness of Oozing vs. Gore.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2008 9:36:44 GMT -5
Jesus Christ, we get it................ Sandy good, Gate bad. Let it go. I wasn't talking about a competition or anything. Just if you were talking about me in your previous post I guess that would have had to be the motivation to actually make something. But it wasn't about me so its cool beans. I like your work. I've told you numerous times you are one of the ONLY guys who can get away with making a JAKKS like custom. Wait . . . Gate turned heel and Sandy's a face now? Honestly, I'd love to see some of your work Sandman. I admire quality work of all kinds, and I guess that's what I don't get about your rigid imposition of the customizing styles of the past. You seem to think that the arbitrarily agreed upon standard of greatness in the past is the only acceptable one. People today aren't "getting away" with making Jakks-like customs, they make them because they like them and think they look good (well, Gate makes them to sell). I only care whether a custom looks good, polished, and clean. I don't care whether a person sculpted the entire thing out of mud from their backyard, as long as it looks good. You've got people on here trying to sculpt faces who should still be working on polishing up less complicated techniques like painting and part choice. You hate on decals, but most of the customizers on this board would make better looking customs if they used them instead of relying on shaky hand painting. I personally hate posed customs because they remind me of old crappy toys with no articulation. That said, when Gonzo knocks one out of the park, I always give him credit (not that he needs my approval). Ask him. I can appreciate different styles. Can you? It's useless and annoying to keep bringing up the good old days. Sure when people see those old customs, they reply with oohs and aahs, but they do that with anything that looks good. I don't think it necessarily means they wish everybody would work in that style. I saw a Spiderman statue by the immortal Baity recently. It was amazing, and artistically superior to any mere custom. But I wouldn't hang out here if everyone did that style. See, this generation of customizers are putting their own stamp on things. They really like the Jakks style for customizing, whether to sell, to add to their collection, or just to make something they think looks cool. That's our style. It's different, and it sometimes doesn't require a pure sculptor's talent, but some people do it really well. And you're fooling yourself if you think everybody on here is on here because of past greats. I'd imagine that these days more people are on here because of the popularity of Jakks figures and customs derived from them. Just so you know, this isn't a call to arms, or anything like that. Don't break out your sculpey as an attack. Break it out cause it would be cool to see. |
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Post by Dyamez on Jun 18, 2008 9:52:58 GMT -5
well said Magnum
I have one customer who made it a point to tell me to make his custom order to look as much as if Jakks did it.
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Post by gatecitysinner on Jun 18, 2008 9:57:20 GMT -5
Alright, that's enough, no more discussing the past greatness and the mediocrity of today. Let the past be the past. I only brought the whole thing up to single out The Great Bozo and his love for nostalgia.
Sandy's never gunna customize again, he's just gunna come around here and tell us how bad we are, we need to learn to accept it.
Instead of talking about the past, let's talk about the future, or lack there of in Deen's case. For he is just another step in what will be known as the greatest IC title reign ever to grace this board. However he will only be a footnote.
Let's try this promo thing out though-
(promo)
Deen sucks, his customs suck, Krypton sucks"
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God bless mustaches.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2008 10:23:05 GMT -5
Alright, that's enough, no more discussing the past greatness and the mediocrity of today. Let the past be the past. I only brought the whole thing up to single out The Great Bozo and his love for nostalgia. Sandy's never gunna customize again, he's just gunna come around here and tell us how bad we are, we need to learn to accept it. Instead of talking about the past, let's talk about the future, or lack there of in Deen's case. For he is just another step in what will be known as the greatest IC title reign ever to grace this board. However he will only be a footnote. Let's try this promo thing out though- (promo) Deen sucks, his customs suck, Krypton sucks" (/promo) God bless mustaches. Wait, no more kayfabe? Damn . . . |
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Post by NYdream™ on Jun 18, 2008 10:27:35 GMT -5
im not gonna lie sandy.. i didnt know who any of those people were and i had already been customizing... so basically your wrong... i started customizing cus i bought a shitty one on ebay and was like... i can do better then this... and knew nothing of baity, m2k, or nbt's....
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Post by Bartman on Jun 18, 2008 10:45:17 GMT -5
Alright, that's enough, no more discussing the past greatness and the mediocrity of today. Let the past be the past. I only brought the whole thing up to single out The Great Bozo and his love for nostalgia. Sandy's never gunna customize again, he's just gunna come around here and tell us how bad we are, we need to learn to accept it. Instead of talking about the past, let's talk about the future, or lack there of in Deen's case. For he is just another step in what will be known as the greatest IC title reign ever to grace this board. However he will only be a footnote. Let's try this promo thing out though- (promo) Deen sucks, his customs suck, Krypton sucks" (/promo) God bless mustaches. Don't count Deen out just yet. Although, there's no arguing that you are one of, if not, the best champion to date since the revival of these competitions. I'm probably just feeding that ego right now, lol, but its the truth. |
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Post by NYdream™ on Jun 18, 2008 10:48:36 GMT -5
Alright, that's enough, no more discussing the past greatness and the mediocrity of today. Let the past be the past. I only brought the whole thing up to single out The Great Bozo and his love for nostalgia. Sandy's never gunna customize again, he's just gunna come around here and tell us how bad we are, we need to learn to accept it. Instead of talking about the past, let's talk about the future, or lack there of in Deen's case. For he is just another step in what will be known as the greatest IC title reign ever to grace this board. However he will only be a footnote. Let's try this promo thing out though- (promo) Deen sucks, his customs suck, Krypton sucks" (/promo) God bless mustaches. Don't count Deen out just yet. Although, there's no arguing that you are one of, if not, the best champion to date since the revival of these competitions. I'm probably just feeding that ego right now, lol, but its the truth. i agree i think deen has a chance.... |
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Post by custom kenny on Jun 18, 2008 10:54:13 GMT -5
Do we know the official judges for the upcomming events yet? "The devil went down to Georgia..."  |
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