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Post by Joey Cush on Nov 24, 2014 13:11:16 GMT -5
I watched the show this morning, so all I had known was that Sting returned because of twitter. Sting coming in was awesome, finally he gets his big run in the WWE that he rightfully deserves.
Only thing I feel the NEED to comment on, is Michael Coles incredibly bad commentary. HE KICKED OUT HE KICKED OUT. ZIGGLER MOVED ZIGGLER MOVED. He is Waaay too over the top for certain things. The purpose for a commentary team is to tell the story about what is going on in the ring, not to bring attention to yourselves. There is no excuse for how bad the commentary is today, it is honestly so bad I can see people turning off the TV solely because of the commentary.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 13:15:29 GMT -5
Well.......it was a LOT better than last years S-Series!! I really enjoyed the show.
Ryback though?.....Christ and the Big Show heel turn? Its time to hang em up Paul. Also I have LOATHED Cole for years.......YEARS and his bullsh*t during this PPV didn't help me out.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Nov 24, 2014 13:24:37 GMT -5
Only thing I feel the NEED to comment on, is Michael Coles incredibly bad commentary. HE KICKED OUT HE KICKED OUT. ZIGGLER MOVED ZIGGLER MOVED. He is Waaay too over the top for certain things. If you don't like stupid OTT screaming in commentary, you'd have hated being a fan in the Jim Ross era.
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Post by Joey Cush on Nov 24, 2014 13:31:58 GMT -5
Only thing I feel the NEED to comment on, is Michael Coles incredibly bad commentary. HE KICKED OUT HE KICKED OUT. ZIGGLER MOVED ZIGGLER MOVED. He is Waaay too over the top for certain things. If you don't like stupid OTT screaming in commentary, you'd have hated being a fan in the Jim Ross era. Well difference is, JR was so much more genuine and into the product, as were the crowd. Last night on the show, Rusev went through the announce table and the crowd wasnt THAT into it, but Cole had to go completely over the top with his announcing. Quite crowd + head exploding commentator = awkward moment. Was JR repetitive and over the top at times as well, most definitely. But JR also played a big role in creating classic moments whereas Cole has never, at least to my knowledge, made a moment feel significant due to his commentary. He tries too hard to make things seem bigger than they really are.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 13:31:37 GMT -5
Only thing I feel the NEED to comment on, is Michael Coles incredibly bad commentary. HE KICKED OUT HE KICKED OUT. ZIGGLER MOVED ZIGGLER MOVED. He is Waaay too over the top for certain things. If you don't like stupid OTT screaming in commentary, you'd have hated being a fan in the Jim Ross era. IMO? They are nothing alike. I enjoyed Ross on commentary.....I have always despised Cole.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Nov 24, 2014 13:38:34 GMT -5
If you don't like stupid OTT screaming in commentary, you'd have hated being a fan in the Jim Ross era. IMO? They are nothing alike. I enjoyed Ross on commentary.....I have always despised Cole. That's cool. But if someone really can't stand stupid OTT screaming from commentators who overreact, then they'd have hated being a fan when JR was commentating.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 24, 2014 13:41:38 GMT -5
I just know that I hate Jerry Lawler on commentary and have for a few years now.
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Post by Supreme Cross on Nov 24, 2014 13:43:44 GMT -5
2. Ryback being the first member of his team eliminated. I understand why they did it considering they needed to save Big Show for his big heel turn in the end, but it still just sucks. They spent all this time building him up again and making him seem like the key to winning the match and he winds up being eliminated by a cheap heel tactic. Just seemed bad to me. i 100% agree with this
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Post by Rattlehead on Nov 24, 2014 13:50:26 GMT -5
This whole time I thought Damien "Miz"Dow was being punished by being the stunt double, but I see it as his push. I think eventually Miz vs Damien will happen, and I also think Stardust would make a good Daffy Duck gimmick.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 13:52:46 GMT -5
In terms of Kayfabe, Cena is a ing moron for ever trusting Big Show after he betrays him all the time. I think in terms of kayfabe, none of the previous turns happened and Big Show has spent the last fifteen years (or actually, they now pretend he's been in WWE for twenty years or so) as a smiling giant high-fiving fans and dressing up as Hulk Hogan BUT HE'S SICK OF KISSING UP TO THE FANS AND NOW HE'S AN ANGRY GIANT WHO MEANS BUSINESS.At least that seems to be the route they take every other time he turns heel. Absolutely. Stephanie often recalls how she knew Big Show since she was a young lady. In fact, he often fed her as a baby from his rather large breasts, and changed her nappies.
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Post by Chip on Nov 24, 2014 14:04:18 GMT -5
as tired as big show heel turns are, at least we didnt see it coming, like all the other ones so it made for one of those WTF moments
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 24, 2014 14:06:14 GMT -5
This whole time I thought Damien "Miz"Dow was being punished by being the stunt double, but I see it as his push. I think eventually Miz vs Damien will happen, and I also think Stardust would make a good Daffy Duck gimmick. It's because Cody Rhodes and Damien Sandow are both talents who can take something that shouldn't work and make it work great. Cody has been fantastic in every role he's been given.
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Post by Planktung on Nov 24, 2014 14:27:35 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 14:33:27 GMT -5
Things like this is what makes the internet brilliant.
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Post by Infinite on Nov 24, 2014 14:35:40 GMT -5
Sting, that was the Dolph Ziggler show.
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Post by Planktung on Nov 24, 2014 14:40:24 GMT -5
Just finished my fourth watch of the main event. I'm sold on this being my Match of the Year. To think that one year ago today, Sting was still in TNA and Dolph Ziggler was not even on the card for Survivor Series. Even just a month ago, there was no way of being able to foresee the events of last night. Goddamn, man. I love professional wrestling.
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Post by Infinite on Nov 24, 2014 14:56:46 GMT -5
Just finished my fourth watch of the main event. I'm sold on this being my Match of the Year. To think that one year ago today, Sting was still in TNA and Dolph Ziggler was not even on the card for Survivor Series. Even just a month ago, there was no way of being able to foresee the events of last night. Goddamn, man. I love professional wrestling. Seriously. Dat ing main event.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 24, 2014 15:32:19 GMT -5
Just finished my fourth watch of the main event. I'm sold on this being my Match of the Year. To think that one year ago today, Sting was still in TNA and Dolph Ziggler was not even on the card for Survivor Series. Even just a month ago, there was no way of being able to foresee the events of last night. Goddamn, man. I love professional wrestling. I need to watch it again. Start to finish.
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Post by RybackV1 on Nov 24, 2014 15:39:04 GMT -5
Nooo way was it MOTY but it was definately one of the better traditional Survivor Series matches theyve put on. It had an old school attitude vibe to it. Zigglers performance was epic. Stings debut was incredible. But it also had it's flaws. The nonsensical rowan and harper physicality , the mistreatment of ryback , and the Big Show over the limit 2012 replay.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 24, 2014 15:46:44 GMT -5
I liked the Harper/Rowan stuff. I agree that the story needs to be more fleshed out though. I don't think Ryback was mistreated. I do agree that Cena/Show again is going to be blah.
However, the match was fantastic and will be in my top five matches of the year.
Bray/Bryan - Royal Rumble Shield/Wyatts - Elimination Chamber Cesaro/Zayn - Arrival HHH/Bryan - WrestleMania Shield/Evolution - Payback Money in the Bank - Money in the Bank Ambrose/Rollins - Raw Ambrose/Rollins - Hell in a Cell Team Cena vs. Team Authority - Survivor Series Cesaro vs. Tyson Kidd vs. Dolph Ziggler - Smackdown
That's just off the top of my head.
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