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Post by CM Poor on Jun 27, 2014 12:47:18 GMT -5
F'real though - not necessarily anyone in particular, but I feel like the brooding, anti-hero kinda character is just so damn easy to write that it just makes sense to a lot of newcomers to put heel/tweener and give themselves a sort of license to go to those dark places. I've always loved the complexity of Drakz' character, in that he's this absolutely revilish, nasty kind of guy, full blown heel, and the crowd just adores him. That's fun. Conversely, I never ever got the impression that Matthews was a heel. There are elements of my new character that could make a more obvious heel, but I thought it would be fun to take those elements out of the picture. If he doesn't go to those places, then unless you just maintain a full blown bias against his "type", then he's pretty tough to hate.
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Post by bad guy™ on Jun 27, 2014 13:44:06 GMT -5
F'real though - not necessarily anyone in particular, but I feel like the brooding, anti-hero kinda character is just so damn easy to write that it just makes sense to a lot of newcomers to put heel/tweener and give themselves a sort of license to go to those dark places. I've always loved the complexity of Drakz' character, in that he's this absolutely revilish, nasty kind of guy, full blown heel, and the crowd just adores him. That's fun. Conversely, I never ever got the impression that Matthews was a heel. There are elements of my new character that could make a more obvious heel, but I thought it would be fun to take those elements out of the picture. If he doesn't go to those places, then unless you just maintain a full blown bias against his "type", then he's pretty tough to hate. See to me the only full blown faces of the last five years have been me, Cross, Nitta, Blaze and Brown. Everyone else has either been an antihero like you said, or someone like Drakz or Sean who were playing face but because of their history I just cannot buy it.
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Post by bad guy™ on Jun 27, 2014 13:53:28 GMT -5
What about me? I have been a face for almost a decade. I count for like five people. I should. I am the best. #Goin'GetChewedOut Haha. Wait - you dropping the title to Dex wasn't a heel turn? THIS STORY MAKES NO SENSE!!!! And just wait till Malakai's band of flying monkeys start flinging sh*t at your characters during the shows.
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Post by sonstuds on Jun 27, 2014 14:10:26 GMT -5
Matthews was a heel? That's what I'm saying - it's so easy to pick "heel" and just do whatever. Can't wait to see how you handle being a good guy. We need more full blown faces. What about me? I have been a face for almost a decade. I count for like five people. I should. I am the best. #Goin'GetChewedOut Haha. See to me the only full blown faces of the last five years have been me, Cross, Nitta, Blaze and Brown. Everyone else has either been an antihero like you said, or someone like Drakz or Sean who were playing face but because of their history I just cannot buy it. Are we just choosing to ignore the whole "Malakai aligns with Yukio and turns on his friend Thunder to take his International Title" angle that lasted like seven months? Every character in the WFWF, whether they were a face or a heel, as done either good or bad things at one time or another either in the show or in their own RPs. It's what they're doing currently and how effectively it's written that dictates whether they're a face or a heel.
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Post by Kyzer on Jun 27, 2014 14:12:00 GMT -5
What about me? I have been a face for almost a decade. I count for like five people. I should. I am the best. #Goin'GetChewedOut Haha. See to me the only full blown faces of the last five years have been me, Cross, Nitta, Blaze and Brown. Everyone else has either been an antihero like you said, or someone like Drakz or Sean who were playing face but because of their history I just cannot buy it. Are we just choosing to ignore the whole "Malakai aligns with Yukio and turns on his friend Thunder to take his International Title" angle that lasted like seven months? Every character in the WFWF, whether they were a face or a heel, as done either good or bad things at one time or another either in the show or in their own RPs. It's what they're doing currently and how effectively it's written that dictates whether they're a face or a heel. Completely agree. It is all relative.
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Post by bad guy™ on Jun 27, 2014 14:15:55 GMT -5
What about me? I have been a face for almost a decade. I count for like five people. I should. I am the best. #Goin'GetChewedOut Haha. See to me the only full blown faces of the last five years have been me, Cross, Nitta, Blaze and Brown. Everyone else has either been an antihero like you said, or someone like Drakz or Sean who were playing face but because of their history I just cannot buy it. Are we just choosing to ignore the whole "Malakai aligns with Yukio and turns on his friend Thunder to take his International Title" angle that lasted like seven months? Every character in the WFWF, whether they were a face or a heel, as done either good or bad things at one time or another either in the show or in their own RPs. It's what they're doing currently and how effectively it's written that dictates whether they're a face or a heel. If you read my final RP you would understand that Malakai was doing it because he was afraid for Thunder long term. Good guy Malakai.
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Post by Kyzer on Jun 27, 2014 14:17:02 GMT -5
I always looked at ZMaster at the most constant face over the last ten years. He was never a heel at any point. Also history doesn't mean crap. Characters change and evolve. If you hold history against a character, that is just being ignorant.
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Post by bad guy™ on Jun 27, 2014 14:19:18 GMT -5
I always looked at ZMaster at the most constant face over the last ten years. He was never a heel at any point. Also history doesn't mean crap. Characters change and evolve. If you hold history against a character, that is just being ignorant. ZMaster was the heel against me in 2011. Heh.
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Post by Kyzer on Jun 27, 2014 14:20:54 GMT -5
I always looked at ZMaster at the most constant face over the last ten years. He was never a heel at any point. Also history doesn't mean crap. Characters change and evolve. If you hold history against a character, that is just being ignorant. ZMaster was the heel against me in 2011. Heh. Nope, don't buy it. Because of history and all.
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Post by bad guy™ on Jun 27, 2014 14:24:01 GMT -5
ZMaster was the heel against me in 2011. Heh. Nope, don't buy it. Because of history and all. At least your logic is sound mate. Heh.
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Post by Kyzer on Jun 27, 2014 14:26:44 GMT -5
Ignorance does not equal logic.
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Post by sonstuds on Jun 27, 2014 14:29:36 GMT -5
Are we just choosing to ignore the whole "Malakai aligns with Yukio and turns on his friend Thunder to take his International Title" angle that lasted like seven months? Every character in the WFWF, whether they were a face or a heel, as done either good or bad things at one time or another either in the show or in their own RPs. It's what they're doing currently and how effectively it's written that dictates whether they're a face or a heel. If you read my final RP you would understand that Malakai was doing it because he was afraid for Thunder long term. Good guy Malakai. Okay and if someone were to read one of my RPs they'd learn that EBR only had had sex with Alex Sean's ex-wife after going to his court hearing out of support because he wanted to get it in. EBR - Top Face Every heel who's effectively written has their reasoning for why they do what they do. It doesn't make them a face, it just makes them a character who makes decisions.
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Post by Kyzer on Jun 27, 2014 14:33:10 GMT -5
If you read my final RP you would understand that Malakai was doing it because he was afraid for Thunder long term. Good guy Malakai. Okay and if someone were to read one of my RPs they'd learn that EBR only had had sex with Alex Sean's ex-wife after going to his court hearing out of support because he wanted to get it in. EBR - Top Face Every heel who's effectively written has their reasoning for why they do what they do. It doesn't make them a face, it just makes them a character who makes decisions. I miss you.
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Post by Prophet of Ash on Jun 27, 2014 15:12:38 GMT -5
Every heel who's effectively written has their reasoning for why they do what they do. It doesn't make them a face, it just makes them a character who makes decisions. do you have a news letter I can subscribe to or something? In pro wrestling, a babyface's job is to stop the heel. The babyface follows all the rules and he's clean cut and he's there to stop those bastard heels from doing whatever it is that they're doing. The heels are doing something wrong. But they think whatever wrong they're doing is right. To a wrestling fan, the best way to explain a heel/face dynamic is the Midnight Express versus The Rock N Roll Express. The RNRs were as clean cut, white meat as possible and they were going to do the right thing no matter what. Ricky is getting double teamed and destroyed? Dammit, Robert is not going to let go of that tag rope but he's going to reach out as far as he can while holding it to get the tag. Meanwhile, Jim Cornette's going to be hitting people with the tennis racket, running around, the Midnights are going to cheat in every way possible.. But the Midnights believe what they're doing is right and they believe that screwing over the RNRs is absolutely the right thing to do. A great example of a heel is Charles Manson. Yeah, Charlie was completely insane and yeah, he had his family commit some of the most brutal murders humanity has ever seen.. But Charlie believed what he was doing was right. He genuinely believed that he was supposed to be causing helter skelter and therefore, he was in the right no matter what wrong he was doing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2014 21:22:55 GMT -5
I've got the Tyger/Garrett match.
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Post by Dex on Jun 28, 2014 17:20:50 GMT -5
Wrote my match and sent it in, really fun spot heavy match, was a pleasure to write haha. Still working on my RP. How are you guys going along?
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Post by CM Poor on Jun 28, 2014 18:14:14 GMT -5
Mines....close? It's hard to tell - I've been writing it for over a month on my phone, so I never quite get a feel for it until I pull it from my email to code it how it looks.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2014 14:25:38 GMT -5
So I'm back from holiday. It was great cheers Will get to writing tonight hopefully. Last show was great by the way and this next card is tasty as well.
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Post by Devilkiller on Jul 5, 2014 0:18:19 GMT -5
F'real though - not necessarily anyone in particular, but I feel like the brooding, anti-hero kinda character is just so damn easy to write that it just makes sense to a lot of newcomers to put heel/tweener and give themselves a sort of license to go to those dark places. I've always loved the complexity of Drakz' character, in that he's this absolutely revilish, nasty kind of guy, full blown heel, and the crowd just adores him. That's fun. Conversely, I never ever got the impression that Matthews was a heel. There are elements of my new character that could make a more obvious heel, but I thought it would be fun to take those elements out of the picture. If he doesn't go to those places, then unless you just maintain a full blown bias against his "type", then he's pretty tough to hate. See to me the only full blown faces of the last five years have been me, Cross, Nitta, Blaze and Brown. Everyone else has either been an antihero like you said, or someone like Drakz or Sean who were playing face but because of their history I just cannot buy it. I've been face ever since I started. So I turned.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2014 3:13:02 GMT -5
16/20 RPs for the show. That's a fantastic turn out boys and girls. Cameron Stone will be turning his in late due to a rather severe incident. I'll leave it up to him as to whether he announces what happened or not. Either way it's going up Monday and will be counted for our match taking us to 17/20!
Bravo.
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