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Post by alexgg on Sept 17, 2012 2:24:55 GMT -5
I really wanted Del Rio to win and have their final match of the feud inside Hell in a Cell, perfect place to end it instead of some random new feud thrown into the structure.
Del Rio losing again for like the 5th time in a row, he should not get another shot any time soon.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2012 2:27:31 GMT -5
I really wanted Del Rio to win and have their final match of the feud inside Hell in a Cell, perfect place to end it instead of some random new feud thrown into the structure. Del Rio losing again for like the 5th time in a row, he should not get another shot any time soon. I could see him getting one last shot, this time in the cell. It could be a war with Sheamus barely winning and then Ziggler cashes in.
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Post by Phantom on Sept 17, 2012 2:45:15 GMT -5
Like I said earlier, I really enjoyed the show. I agreed with the outcome of every match but Ziggler/Orton. But that match was so good, it didn't matter.Loved Punk's Yankees Attire but his Moonsault was horrible. Props for attempting it though. I guess it was a shout out to Lita. Also cant stress how neat it was to see Cena do a Suicide Dive. He should have done that at WM. It would have been a hell of a moment. Another thing I liked was Eve winning the Divas Title. When AJ starts wrestling again, Eve is gonna be the perfect person for her to feud with. Not looking forward to HIAC so much though. Anymore that 1 HIAC match is always overkill. If they do one I guess it will be Punk vs. Cena although I would rather see Lesnar vs. Cena. I guess they missed that boat. And if they do another I could see Sheamus vs. Del Rio vs. Orton vs. Ziggler. I smell a Ziggler cash-in on one of the next 3 episodes of Raw.
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Post by King of Kings on Sept 17, 2012 3:08:41 GMT -5
Heyman's Promo & CM Punk's entrance
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Post by Eat Defeat. on Sept 17, 2012 3:37:54 GMT -5
Really liked this PPV. JBL on commentary was just awesome, he brings out the best in Cole, he hasn't missed a step.
Enjoyed the tag match, Orton/Ziggler & the main event the most, there wasn't a bad match all night.
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Post by wabarrett on Sept 17, 2012 6:47:23 GMT -5
Amazing PPV. Every match got time, every match was good to great. JBL was, of course, Godly. Only minor disappointment was how long it took the crowd to get into that awesome F4W match.
Actually Cesaro vs. Ryder was a bit dull. I can't get behind Cesaro.
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Post by y2yay on Sept 17, 2012 8:19:13 GMT -5
Very good show. Third best of the year for me, behind Extreme Rules and WrestleMania.
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Post by J12 on Sept 17, 2012 8:54:13 GMT -5
Since others have brought it up since, I figured I'd clarify why I've had such an issue with the Sheamus/Del Rio feud.
Apart from the obvious prestige issue, where Del Rio has yet to truly get over as a main event heel, and Sheamus has been booked so one-dimensionally as World Champion, logistically, at least to me, their program has made little sense.
First, WWE toyed with the idea of a one on one match for two months. The first time, it was scrapped in favor of (the far better) fatal 4 way match at Over the Limit. At No Way Out, Del Rio is replaced by Ziggler at the last minute due to injury (though who knows, it seemed to be calculated).
So then we finally get this "much anticipated" match at Money in the Bank. Except it really isn't, because they've been so focused on the money in the bank matches themselves, that the match slips under the radar.
While it's competitive, Sheamus wins the match decisively. That effectively eliminates Del Rio from title contention, at which point, we should have seen a new challenger, or at least another person in the mix.
But instead, Del Rio wins number one contender status again. We get another match at Summerslam, which Sheamus wins cheaply. See the issue here?
Why didn't the dusty finish happen at Money in the Bank, with Del Rio earning a fair rematch as a result at Summerslam?
So clearly, after Summerslam, the program isn't over. Del Rio very briefly remarks on Sheamus' cheap victory, but within a week or so, they forget all about it in favor of the brogue kick storyline.
So, the very reason Del Rio should have any claim to a rematch is completely overlooked. Now it's about a banned finisher.
Okay, that's fine. Should make for an interesting (albeit final) confrontation at Night of Champions. The match is a little different than the previous two because Sheamus can't use the brogue kick.
But wait! Booker T reinstates the finisher BEFORE the match begins?! What purpose did this serve? We still don't know if Sheamus can beat Del Rio with the Brogue Kick, which was Del Rio's entire claim to fame going into the match.
Now, again, Del Rio loses completely clean, with absolutely no reason to have a rematch, and yet, we've got a possibility of seeing it AGAIN inside Hell in a Cell. I just don't get it.
Instead of playing out like an actual feud, it's been like three different feuds in one, all involving the same two people. It's disjointed, lazy, and defies logic in every way, shape and form.
Easily one of the least favorite angles in a long, long time.
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Post by y2yay on Sept 17, 2012 8:57:48 GMT -5
Yeah, this feud has been terrible. Should have ended at Money in the Bank or SummerSlam at the latest.
I didn't mind them getting a SummerSlam match as much because their MITB sucked and I was glad they had a chance to make up for it with a good match at SS.
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Post by wyleecyotee on Sept 17, 2012 9:55:57 GMT -5
Really good PPV, thats the sort of thing I want to see at Wrestlemania. One of the best PPVs of the year and that includes JBLs commentary. Shame Ziggler lost as it just makes him look weaker than a main eventer for me but I thought it was quite obvious Orton would win when they didnt put the briefcase on the line. I was so happy it was a draw after Cena "won". Really good match and credit to Cena for doing it with a dodgy ankle. The crowd sucked for the Diva match as it was one of the best in a long time and they really didnt get the credit they deserved. Cesaro/Ryder was really good and I just ing love that uppercut. Shame its not his proper finisher. Everything else was really good as well and even ADR/Sheamus was a good watch but the brogue kick thing was just odd. Hopefully this is finished now. Sheamus/Orton could be a good feud. Top PPV, dont think HIAC can top it going on past PPVs.
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Post by wabarrett on Sept 17, 2012 10:15:23 GMT -5
It was really interesting and somewhat amusing watching a Main Event where both guys had the crowd torn, some pulling for them, some against them.
Like, the pop when Cena won, followed by the cheers when CM Punk hit Cena with the belt, and then the immediate booing when CM Punk raised the Title in the air. So bizarre.
p.s. pretty much called this Daniel Bryan/ Kane scenario the other week... was pretty obvious so I'm not asking for a medal or cookie or internet high five lol. But just found it amusing.
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Post by y2yay on Sept 17, 2012 10:20:27 GMT -5
It was really interesting and somewhat amusing watching a Main Event where both guys had the crowd torn, some pulling for them, some against them. Like, the pop when Cena won, followed by the cheers when CM Punk hit Cena with the belt, and then the immediate booing when CM Punk raised the Title in the air. So bizarre.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2012 10:38:17 GMT -5
I really loved this PPV. Everything delivered. Fatal Four Way was excellent. Glad Miz picked up the win since I want to see Rey and Sin Cara form a tag team and go the tag titles. WWE Tag Team Championship match was awesome, so freaking glad that Team Friendship won! "NO I'M THE TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS!" United States Title match was decent, I really wanted Ryder to win though. I used the Divas match as my piss break so I don't know if it was good but I'm glad Eve won. Orton/Ziggler was absolutely awesome. Loved every second of it and the fact that the crowd was really into it, made it that much better. I wish Ziggler would have picked up the win but he came out of this match looking really strong. As much as this Sheamus/Del Rio feud sucks, they put on a good match. Punk/Cena was just great. Sucks that Punk ed up the moonsault but kudos to Cena for that Suicide Dive. It's crazy that this dude can do so much more with his moveset but only does so on occasion. I almost died when I thought Cena was walking out champion. Glad it ended up being a draw and I'm looking forward to their inevitable Hell In A Cell match next month in which Heyman will probably get involved. Maybe Lesnar too? Great Wrestling + Great Commentary = Great PPV.
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Post by 0,Y on Sept 17, 2012 10:56:59 GMT -5
maybe it was just my video but the crowd didn't seem hot to me until the Main Event. I need to rewatch Ziggler vs. Orton as I don't think it was a MOTY candidate but yeah, maybe that'll change when I rewatch. JBL was gold on commentary, he should return fulltime. Cole was great aswell, he's a much better face than a color commentator. Good PPV in my opinion I can't wait for Raw
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Post by noir on Sept 17, 2012 11:05:35 GMT -5
Overall, an amazing PPV. Best PPV since over the limit for me. Standouts for me were; - Orton vs. Ziggler. Ziggler was my favourite for like 2 years, then I got a little bored of him, but as of the past couple of months he's right up there again. Orton's on top of his game. Just a great match. - Cesaro vs. Ryder. Claudio was one of my favourite indy wrestlers, but if I'm honest, he's clearly not given it 100% so far. IDK if it's the stupid ass rugby gimmick, nerves in front of a huge crowd, the lack of TV time, or the horrible formulaic promos they've got him doing lately. Either way, he's not been his best. However tonight, I felt he delivered his best match since joining the main roster. Props to Ryder who I'm not a fan of at all, because both put on a great performance. - Kane/ Bryan. I hated this at first, but I'm slowly loving their friendship. PG, corny as , but entertaining. love it. - Punk/ Cena. Not sure if this match was their best, but it was ing fantastic. What I didn't like: - No storyline development - Stupid ass ending to Punk/ Cena. Felt really cop out and was a very bad conclusion to a gripping 30 minute battle. - No Damien Sandow but I'm just being a bitch for the sake of it. WWE, which has been at a low point for me since going 3 hours, really knocked it out of the park with NOC.
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Post by Joey Cush on Sept 17, 2012 12:05:38 GMT -5
I was so happy we didnt have any unannounced matches, like Ryder or Brodus match. By Friday, the card was set and it delivered big time.
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Post by y2yay on Sept 17, 2012 12:12:02 GMT -5
- Cesaro vs. Ryder. Claudio was one of my favourite indy wrestlers, but if I'm honest, he's clearly not given it 100% so far. IDK if it's the stupid ass rugby gimmick, nerves in front of a huge crowd, the lack of TV time, or the horrible formulaic promos they've got him doing lately. Either way, he's not been his best. However tonight, I felt he delivered his best match since joining the main roster. Props to Ryder who I'm not a fan of at all, because both put on a great performance. I don't know why people keep bringing up Cesaro's supposed rugby background. His gimmick is not that of a rugby player, it's just apart of his background. I think it's been mentioned about twice since he debuted. He doesn't talk about it, he doesn't bring a rugby ball to the ring etc. People should stop using it as a crutch.
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Sept 17, 2012 12:18:17 GMT -5
Pretty obvious we'll get a match at HIAC where there "must be a winner" between Punk/Cena, which pretty much perfectly sets up my prediction for the next six months or so. At HIAC, we finally see the return of one Mr. Brock Lesnar in the main, attacking Cena and costing him the match (he has never gotten revenge for Extreme Rules after all). This would set up Team Heyman vs. Team Cena at Survivor Series and Brock vs. Cena at TLC, effectively keeping both of them out of the title picture. In the meantime, Punk can feud with someone new over the belt until he takes on Dwayne at the Rumble. Sadly, Punk's awesome reign will end there while Cena wins the Rumble, and we finally get the rematch, Cena vs. Rock for the title at Wrestlemania. Would not surprise me one bit to see HHH vs. Lesnar II as well at Mania. I'm guessing Lesnar ends up fighting about four or five matches, not including the Rumble, throughout this year-long contract, which is pretty ridiculous. I'm for all of that. Plus, if Punk can hold the belt until Royal Rumble he'll have passed Cena's longest title reign, making him the longest reigning champion since 88, and the 6th longest of all time. And as much as I'd be ok with him holding it forever, no one will ever break the top 5, as that's when you get into the multiple year reigns.
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Post by noir on Sept 17, 2012 13:06:35 GMT -5
I don't know why people keep bringing up Cesaro's supposed rugby background. His gimmick is not that of a rugby player, it's just apart of his background. I think it's been mentioned about twice since he debuted. He doesn't talk about it, he doesn't bring a rugby ball to the ring etc. People should stop using it as a crutch. type 'antonio cesaro' into google and you'll see 'antonio cesaro rugby' is the first suggested search. The commentators have also brought it up most matches, including last night. I'm grasping at straws here, because I know that he's not at his best character/ promo-wise and I'm wondering why. The fact that his 'very European' gimmick has been completely overshadowed by being a international rugby star who can say a word in five different languages is definitely a possible reason.
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Post by Arthur Speaks on Sept 17, 2012 13:58:54 GMT -5
Loved the Punk/Cena match. Anyone who says that Cena can't wrestle should really look up his matches with The Great Khali. Punk wearing Yankees tights in Boston (a sports sin) and getting cheers made no sense, while Cena got booed wearing pink "Rise Above Cancer" gear. Their match at Hell in a Cell will be just as great. Either Big Show or Brock Lesnar will interfere, attack Cena, help Punk retain and a new alliance will begin.
I didn't see Sheamus/Del Rio, but I'll just take everybody's word for it and praise it. Booker reinstating the Brogue Kick is absolutely stupid. What was the point of even banning it? This feud needs to end NOW. Del Rio shouldn't deserve any more rematches for a long time. Please give Wade Barrett the next shot. A match between him and Sheamus at HIAC inside the Cell will be epic.
Team Friendship will become the hottest act in wrestling today. Believe that. "How can one man be the tag-team champions?" Michael Cole said. Too funny.
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