Official Ring of Honor thread

["Living Legend" Duttanized]

ROH posting Vines instead of fixing their iPPVs...

[the franchise]

I would imagine the ROH student in charge of posting Vine stuff is not capable of fixing their iPPV problem.

[Scotty]

Joe Koff is a scam artist.

[the franchise]

Live iPPV shows are outta here.

This past weekend at "Best in the World" in Baltimore, MD , Ring of Honor proved once again from top to bottom why our talent is truly the best in wrestling today. Unfortunately, there were some issues with the live iPPV stream that wound up distracting from the energy and action in ring. For this, we sincerely apologize to all fans that encountered problems.

Because of how much we value the support of our fans, and understand the imperfections of the live streaming technology, "Best in the World" will be the last iPPV stream that we will be broadcasting live. All future main event shows will now be offered as a Video On Demand, which will allow Ring of Honor to present a flawless show and truly depict the excellence of our product.

From now on, fans can watch ROH Wrestling on TV, VOD, or DVD, however there is still nothing like seeing Ring of Honor in person. We thank you for your continued support and are excited to be moving forward.

Ring of Honor Wrestling

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Briscoes might be done too.

[Scotty]

what a joke.

[MARK-ISM]

Source: PWInsider


We have been told by several people within Ring of Honor that The Briscoes could be done with the company following "Best In The World" weekend in Baltimore, Maryland. Nothing is confirmed but we're being told that after the show and their main event match for the ROH World Championship, Mark and Jay got into a shoot fight backstage, which resulted in Mark being absent from yesterdays TV taping.

ROH officials felt that Jay featuring at the event being the World Champion was more important than Mark and had Nigel McGuinness inform the crowd that due to an injury Mark wouldn't feature on the show. During the taping Jay Briscoe faced Matt Hardy for the ROH World Championship, after the match SCUM beat Jay down which is said to have been an extremely heavy beatdown and the atmosphere after it in the arena would be comparable to when Shawn Michaels collapsed during his match with Owen Hart on Raw in 1995, even featuring Jay being carried from the ring.

Nobody has been able to clarify what has resulted in the outcome but it's believed that either head booker Hunter "Delirious" Johnson or Sinclair Broadcasting executive Joe Koff suspended Jay Briscoe or told him to go home for the foreseeable future, not willing to put up with the antics of The Briscoes. Jay Briscoe is currently ROH World Champion and the decision was made that instead of stripping him of the title he would be forced to vacate it, ala Rob Van Dam as TNA World Heavyweight Champion in 2010.

This is yet another knock for Ring of Honor over the weekend, really disrupting what has been a great 2013 for the company. Everything has been positive until this weekend, their weekly TV show has been compared to WWE's NXT, their production quality has risen significantly and their PPV's are delivering, fans and fellow wrestlers such as Kevin Steen and Davey Richards attribute this to the removal of Jim Cornette last year.

What is worse for ROH is not only have they discontinued iPPV's but August is a big month for the company with them holding two big shows, one in Maple Leaf Gardens which some believe will be the biggest ROH show in history and two weeks later Manhattan Mayhem V live event from the Hammerstein Ballroom in New York City. With The Briscoes seemingly gone (for now) that is one of their biggest draws absent from the shows, so a lot of pressure falls on top guys like Kevin Steen, Adam Cole, Jay Lethal and The American Wolves to bring in crowds, one which will collectively go above 5,000 people in two weeks between Toronto and Manhattan Mayhem V.

It'll be interesting to see if they try to cash-in on Davey Richards rumored impending departure from the company at the end of August and do a farewell tour likened to that of Bryan Danielson in 2009. That would be one way of drawing crowds.

2013 has been very good to Ring of Honor this year and for a while there they really had the most consistent product of the top three, but this really hits them hard. And if your expecting The Briscoes to pop up on WWE or TNA television, don't hold your breath because they are still contracted to ROH.

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Not to mention if the "shoot fight" rumors are real, McMahon isn't going to want someone like that in the locker room... Dixie probably won't care. Haha

[Boy Wonder]

Huh, that's some odd news. What the hell were they fighting over?

I was just coming in here to talk about how entertaining and funny the Briscoes are and how dumb WWE would have to be to not hire them, lol.

[Mr. Orange]

Nobody knows why they left, so take the shoot fight or this one with a grain of salt. Another article on PWInsider said this:

ROH champion Jay Briscoe and Mark Briscoe have both wrestled their final matches for Ring of Honor, possibly for good.
As we broke on Monday in the PWInsider Elite section, Ring of Honor ran an angle over the weekend where Jay Briscoe was beaten down by SCUM, writing him out of the promotion. Mark Briscoe was written out with the story being that he was injured wrestling Jay at the Best in the World iPPV.

The exit had been the planned departure for the brothers for some time and pre-dated the Jay Briscoe Twitter debacle from a month ago. It was not something rushed at the last second and was planned prior to Jay winning the ROH title over Wrestlemania weekend.

The implication from different sources is that Briscoe vs. Briscoe taking place in Baltimore (not far from their hometown in Delaware, with TONS of family members in attendance) was designed to be something of a send-off for the pair, who have been with the promotion since their first event in February 2002. This past weekend's ROH TV was entirely dedicated to the brothers as well.

With WWE hiring so many new talents in advance of their WWE Performance Center opening on 7/8, the initial belief among ROH talents was that the Briscoes had finished with ROH en route to signing a WWE deal. WWE sources have stated no deal is on the table, but admitted there was past interest. It's possible the Briscoe Twitter issues may have led to WWE pulling back on that interest, given the magnifying glass the company is under politically, but no one has definitively told me that.

As noted on Monday in the Elite section, at the very least, the brothers are taking a hiatus from the company and will not be back anytime in the near future. They are not currently figured into any short-term plans for ROH, although that obviously could change at any time.

As of today, the Briscoes are not under ROH contract. That said, should they not sign elsewhere, it stands to reason that at some point they will be back at some point. Both Briscoes have long stated that being around to see their children grow up was of the utmost importance to them, something that the insanity of a WWE schedule would not allow as much freedom to do in comparison to working for ROH. They are pretty much legends within the company and walk back in for a top position at whim.

The current status of the ROH title is also up in the air. ROH sources remain tight-lipped on the belt, but if Jay Briscoe isn't figured into the current plans, obviously the promotion will have to do something. A tournament to crown a new champion seems to be most likely, but that would also break the lineage of the belt for the first time since Low Ki won the championship in June 2002. With ROH TV taped through late July, the promotion will be in no rush to address that situation, since it won't have played out to their TV viewers until then. A lot can change in that much time, but as of now, it would appear we've seen Jay Briscoe's last ROH title defense.

ROH sources indicate they have remained in contact with the Briscoes and all between the two sides is 100% amicable. There is absolutely no heat between the two sides, at all.

[the franchise]

The Cornette interview on pwinsider is interesting enough. He basically buries Steen and The Super Smash Brothers. Says there is a planet where people would rather see the SSB over Hardy and Mike Bennett but that is just isn't this planet. If people see guys dressed in pajamas wrestling they would say what the is this and turn it off. Also Davey would call him up and complain that he had to lose the title to Steen because Steen wasn't an athlete. He wouldn't allow Grizzly Redwood to wrestle on tv as it wasn't believable he could beat anyone because he was so small so others would look bad when they bumped for him. He told Aries to stop complaining about the company while he was there and Aries replied they don't pay me enough to not complain. Everyone who says bad stuff about him is basically disgruntled and only telling their side of the story. He says the Hammerstein Ballroom people were crooks and began overcharging them. He says fans wouldn't give new people any chances. Fans should have been happy that more people were going to get to see the ROH product. He goes off on some tangent about hardcore stuff. There is some entertaining stuff in the there for sure.

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Jun 26, 2013 12:26:27 GMT -5 the franchise said:

Says there is a planet where people would rather see the SSB over Hardy and Mike Bennett but that is just isn't this planet.

What planet am I on?

[the franchise]

On Mars with Quaid.

["Living Legend" Duttanized]

Cornette.

[Scotty]

I really didn't think his comments were that bad

["Living Legend" Duttanized]

TNA made the Briscoes a decent offer, I'm thinking WWE won't sign them after the antics Jay pulls on Twitter.

[Ashley Shaffer BMW]

I think it's Elgin's time to hold the belt. I don't think they'll put it on Hardy because he's expensive and I bet his contract has limited dates. ROH really needs a roster boost as well especially if Davey is leaving soon. Hopefully Sinclair will realize this and steal some of Gabe's talent away because I wanna see AR FOX, Inner city, and the Bucks on a regular basis. Also if they got Kendrick and London back it will totally boost the company.

[Scotty]

These ROH and WWN Live contracts are so terrible for each companies business. WWN Live shows would do so much better with guys like Steen, Roddy, and Cole on them, and ROH Would do better with guys like Gargano, Cima, and Tozawa

["Living Legend" Duttanized]

ROH working with WWNLive is like WWE working with TNA tbh.

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