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Post by Rule 30 on Jul 23, 2012 22:45:49 GMT -5
Pros- Punk's 'turn'(?)
- Brothers of Destruction
- Lesnar/Triple H at Summerslam and that awesome segment
- Miz/Christian and Miz winning the title.
- Dude Love
- Six man tag
- APA
- New stage, new graphics, new logo, new ring skirt.
- AJ as GM
- Punk/Bryan/Rock promo
Cons- Brodus Clay/Swagger
- No Cody Rhodes
- No Steve Blackman
- No Stone Cold
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Post by Sleazyness on Jul 23, 2012 22:52:03 GMT -5
Wow alot of whining and complaining from alot of you tonight. No surprise here. Sorry, I'll just sit back and be happy for nostalgia sake and ignore all the hot garbage that they threw at us. People complaining about people complaining is getting to be far worse than the actual complaining. Go right ahead sir..
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Post by J12 on Jul 23, 2012 22:56:17 GMT -5
If people enjoyed it, great. I'm glad it made you happy. I went in expecting very little out of tonight thinking it would help me out in the long run, and I got less than what I expected.
Simply put, tonight felt like this...
"OH MY GOD, IT'S ______!" Match Tout Tout "HEY LOOK WHAT WE DID!" "OH MY GOD, IT'S ______!" Tout Tout Match "OH MY GOD, IT'S ______!"
Rinse and repeat, with the exception of Lesnar/Triple H and Punk's turn.
I get it, some people just wanted to see a bunch of old guys come back and do their shtick for old time's sake. WWE knew that, they delivered that. Great. My fault for expecting anything different.
The show is in the books, and now it's on to next week, where hopefully we can get down to business, because I AM completely enthralled by H/Lesnar, and Punk.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Jul 23, 2012 23:01:53 GMT -5
Instead of those tout references and Sheen appearances we would of had enough time for Austin to arrive, raise hell and then leave. We even could of had a Tag Title match if WWE even got rid of Swagger/Clay.
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Post by Daniel F'n Bryan on Jul 23, 2012 23:02:15 GMT -5
you guys can defend that show all you want but there was only 4 matches on a 3 hour show and only 2 had any meaning and thats the IC match and the main event. They simply need ALOT less "social media OMGZ" and more ing PRO WRESTLING. The lack of matches, Austin not being there, Taker being used to squash ing jobbers when he cant even wrestle more then one match a year, not letting Cena and Punk do their thing, AJ being the GM, the new belt (which is obviously done as you can tell from the Punk/Cena graphic) not debuting and Lesnar being on TV for a whole minute are what made me hate this raw. Like I said the last minute saved the whole show for me and nothings going to change that opinion.
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Post by Kanenite on Jul 23, 2012 23:06:14 GMT -5
Great episode. I really liked Mae Young and Mark Henry's son making an appearance, the DX segment, Trish and DX backstage, Punk's turn, HHH & Steph/Lesnar & Heyman segment, Lita (who looked AMAZING, wow) vs Heath Slater, and The Brothers of Destruction reuniting!
I wish Austin could of made it, felt weird without him being there.
Can't wait for next week. Should be some good in ring wrestling for now on with RAW being three hours for now.
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Post by "Living Legend" Duttanized on Jul 23, 2012 23:07:47 GMT -5
Pros
Punk's 'turn'(?) Brothers of Destruction Lesnar/Triple H at Summerslam and that awesome segment Dude Love Six man tag APA/Lita/Heath Slater Punk/Bryan/Rock promo D-X/Sandow Promo
Cons
Brodus Clay/Swagger No Stone Cold Bryan/AJ wedding Miz winning IC title No tag team title match No divas Lawler/Cole Tout Lack of Jericho Too many adverts
For such a big night, popfest was alright but not fully taken advantage of...gotta give this Raw a 7 out of 10.
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Post by Nick on Jul 23, 2012 23:13:07 GMT -5
Of course I'd expect people on here to complain about the show. You got DX, Undertaker, APA, Lita, The Rock, Brock Lesnar, Stephanie McMahon, plus other legends and you complain.
Yes Stone Cold wasn't there but him not being there makes the show suck? Hahaha. What would Austin have done anyway? Arrive, Stunner someone, leave. The matches were good and the ending was perfect. Was a perfect show and cannot wait for next week.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2012 23:13:12 GMT -5
I can understand the no-Austin feelings, but so many fans think he'll return to the ring someday (against Punk - ha). It's been nine years and he had/has a serious neck injury. He is never wrestling again. Deal with it. And when he does comeback it sure as hell ain't gonna be to stun heath slater. Then people complain he isn't GM. I am sure the WWE WOULD LOVE to have him as GM but here's a thought. AUSTIN DOESN'T WANT THE JOB!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2012 23:18:34 GMT -5
That's the thing, people are complaining that this show was a pop fest, those same people are moaning for Austin. The only thing Austin would do is just add to the pop fest. I enjoyed the hell out of this show, sorry you didn't because you wanted one more pop.
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Post by Obi-TruLove on Jul 23, 2012 23:21:16 GMT -5
God I hope Sheen will just be a manager at SummerSlam. Wasting Bryan like that on SummerSlam would be pretty bad imo.
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Post by Daniel F'n Bryan on Jul 23, 2012 23:26:20 GMT -5
Of course I'd expect people on here to complain about the show. You got DX, Undertaker, APA, Lita, The Rock, Brock Lesnar, Stephanie McMahon, plus other legends and you complain. Yes Stone Cold wasn't there but him not being there makes the show suck? Hahaha. What would Austin have done anyway? Arrive, Stunner someone, leave. The matches were good and the ending was perfect. Was a perfect show and cannot wait for next week. Yeah but other then Rock and Lesnar every other legend that was there did nothing of meaning. Why have Taker there to do nothing more then squash 7 jobbers when they instead could have planted the seeds for his mania match? Why have Foley there for lousy "Dude Love" cameo that was about as half assed as can be? Why waste one of Brocks appearences (which there arent many of on his contract) to be on TV for a whole minute when they could have done something interesting like have him attack HBK? I could go on and on......to be short and sweet the show was all sizzle and maybe a whole 15 mins of steak. I just want to see all of this twitter, facebook, youtube, tout and whatever the else has to do with social media to get the away from the entertainment I love and I want the great wrestling and deep angles I used to have back. I dont want the "attitude era" I just want wrestling that is focused on WRESTLING and has more then one or two actual storylines.
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Post by Nick on Jul 23, 2012 23:33:51 GMT -5
Of course I'd expect people on here to complain about the show. You got DX, Undertaker, APA, Lita, The Rock, Brock Lesnar, Stephanie McMahon, plus other legends and you complain. Yes Stone Cold wasn't there but him not being there makes the show suck? Hahaha. What would Austin have done anyway? Arrive, Stunner someone, leave. The matches were good and the ending was perfect. Was a perfect show and cannot wait for next week. Yeah but other then Rock and Lesnar every other legend that was there did nothing of meaning. Why have Taker there to do nothing more then squash 7 jobbers when they instead could have planted the seeds for his mania match? Why have Foley there for lousy "Dude Love" cameo that was about as half assed as can be? Why waste one of Brocks appearences (which there arent many of on his contract) to be on TV for a whole minute when they could have done something interesting like have him attack HBK? I could go on and on......to be short and sweet the show was all sizzle and maybe a whole 15 mins of steak. I just want to see all of this twitter, facebook, youtube, tout and whatever the else has to do with social media to get the away from the entertainment I love and I want the great wrestling and deep angles I used to have back. I dont want the "attitude era" I just want wrestling that is focused on WRESTLING and has more then one or two actual storylines. Undertaker was only there to celebrate the 1000th episode. Of course they're not going to start up his feud 8 months early. He'd only show up in person about 4 times. What if his WM opponent is already in a current storyline? They'll set it up when it is right. Foley was there to celebrate too. What would you have Foley do if he's just going to be there one night? Brock might be attacking HBK at his Appreciation night in 2 weeks and you'll get your wish. It was Triple H's turn to get the upper hand. Overall it was a good Raw. I did say perfect in my other post but I'll take that back because there could have been a few more matches but seriously? People complain like nothing at all good happened tonight except Punk and Cenas match.
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Post by King Silva on Jul 23, 2012 23:37:02 GMT -5
Of course I LOVED seeing Lita come back and have a match and win [even if against Slater]. She looked amazing too. Other than that and Rock coming back, Punk's heel turn, and the IC title match the show was nothing special in my honest opinion.
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Post by Phantom on Jul 23, 2012 23:41:53 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the show. So much nostalgia with the returns. I cant really judge the Punk thing yet, but I loved the clothesline & GTS he gave The Rock. I didnt see it coming at all. I like Miz winning the IC Title. I dont want Sheen/Bryan. I like AJ being GM, but I dont think it will last long, which is good because I want that Divas Title around her precious waist as soon as possible. And Im sure Brock will attack HBK in 2 weeks on HBK Appreciation night to add more fire to the feud. But yeah, great show. I'm gonna watch it again on Youtube when I get the chance.
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Post by Brad on Jul 23, 2012 23:52:41 GMT -5
Man, I'm glad I wasn't in this thread when Raw was on. You people are an F'in buzz kill. I thought the show was fantastic from top to bottom. I was disappointed with no Austin and would have liked to have seen a tag title match but that's it.
SO glad Punk turned. Glad Miz won the IC title. Stoked AJ is GM and can't wait to see where it goes. HHH/Brock has me hooked. Seeing all of DX and The APA back and OMG Lita....
Fantastic show and for those of you bitching about the lack of wrestling, that was to be expected tonight and if you went in expecting anything more that is your stupidity.
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Post by Edgehead57 on Jul 23, 2012 23:58:58 GMT -5
I just realized that I was surprised the Wade Barrett didn't come back tonight. I honestly forgot about him, then remembered that he possibly could have returned tonight. Hopefully he is in that Battle Royal on Smackdown to be number one contender since I have heard he was supposed to get a big push before his injury.
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Post by dontquestionmyhart on Jul 24, 2012 0:13:35 GMT -5
All day I had a feeling Lita was going to be there tonight. And I will admit I always secretly hope she will show up about of the blue. (wishful thinking) but God dammit I was right this time! I just knew she was going to make an appearance. She looked good.
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Post by smackdown4life™ on Jul 24, 2012 0:22:33 GMT -5
I can't explain how let down I am for AJ being GM. For me it tainted a pretty good episode of RAW.
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Post by RatedR2011 on Jul 24, 2012 0:23:36 GMT -5
I thought Raw was pretty good tonight. I loved the DX segment at the beginning of the show. AJ as GM will be great, I think so, btw, she looked hot last night. She always looks hot. I liked to see Foley again. The Lesnar/HHH/Heyman/McMahon confrontation was amazing. I can't wait until HHH vs Lesnar at Summerslam. It was nice to see Lita, she looked good, poor Heath Slater, lol. I liked seeing the Undertaker/Brothers of Destruction again. I thought Punk vs Cena was pretty good. The Punk heel turn was awesome. So overall, I give Raw last night an 8/10.
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