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Post by natepadberg on Mar 24, 2012 17:11:59 GMT -5
i marked out when hall zapped goldberg with the tazer. my favorite match on that PPV though was DDP vs the giant, just because of the epic diamond cutter that ended the match, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2012 18:17:49 GMT -5
LOL @ The tazer incident.
Goldberg flopping around on the mat while Kevin Nash pins him still makes me laugh.
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Post by natepadberg on Mar 24, 2012 18:44:35 GMT -5
i think that was the first thing goldberg ever sold, lmao. he sold that but not a giant stop sign smashing his skull, haha, <3 WCW!
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Post by Too Sweet on Mar 24, 2012 19:49:19 GMT -5
Sting joining the Wolfpac was the worst. for me personally, it ruined it big time when they threw him in there Agreed, even though I dug Stings Red and Black look, the fact that Sting joined an nWo faction just threw away 1997 for me. Classic WCW booking indeed.
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Post by cordless2016 on Mar 24, 2012 19:52:53 GMT -5
Its sad how much WCW f***ed up a huge opportunity. Sting was the most over guy in wrestling 1997 w/out having wrestled a match all year. All the fans wanted was for Sting to cleanly defeat Hogan and end the nWo's reign of terror. instead, egos go in the way, and Sting ended up being stuck in mid-card hell for 90% of 1998. Guys like Hogan and Nash and others w/ creative control used their powers to prevent Sting from getting any clean wins over them, and it killed Sting in the end. Seriously, the guy was taking out the whole nWo for over a year by himself, but then looked like a chump, especially against Hogan, who dominated their Starrcade match.
WCW had an opportunity to put on one of the best cards ever for Starrcade 1998. Sting should have defeated Hogan cleanly and held the title for a year, becoming a dominant champion. At the same time, Goldberg would have still begun his rise to the top. Bret also came in w/ HUGE momentum, and also could have gone on a year long dominant run, and all three ment would have met in a triple threat match for the world title at Starrcade 1998, w/ Goldberg winning the title. At the same time, Hogan and Nash could have been feuding which would have led to a match here as well. Seriously Starrcade 1998 could have been an amazing card. That is the biggest missed opportunity WCW ever made IMO.
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Post by natepadberg on Mar 24, 2012 19:55:18 GMT -5
for me personally, it ruined it big time when they threw him in there Agreed, even though I dug Stings Red and Black look, the fact that Sting joined an nWo faction just threw away 1997 for me. Classic WCW booking indeed. thats when all the WCW booking went to hell. "lets put they guy in the nWo who hates them with every inch of his being!" if i remember correctly, there was build up to get sting in wolfpac, very crapty horribly drawn up build up. if the picture was to get him in and fool the world with the fingerpoke of doom and turn everybody in the nWo factions heel, then it most certainly blew more than sunny in an ECW locker room full of dirty cocks.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2012 8:24:21 GMT -5
LOL!!
I remember when the Wolfpac was being marketed and it smacked of the DX Army BIG time....but instead of Hall who had a record of being a cool face and some other young guys in there they had Luger and Macho......hmmmm
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Post by cordless2016 on Mar 25, 2012 8:28:29 GMT -5
LOL!! I remember when the Wolfpac was being marketed and it smacked of the DX Army BIG time....but instead of Hall who had a record of being a cool face and some other young guys in there they had Luger and Macho......hmmmm lol I remember reading that Hogan was mad that all the "cool" guys were in the Wolfpac so he wanted Hall in the Black and White.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2012 9:32:40 GMT -5
LOL!! I remember when the Wolfpac was being marketed and it smacked of the DX Army BIG time....but instead of Hall who had a record of being a cool face and some other young guys in there they had Luger and Macho......hmmmm lol I remember reading that Hogan was mad that all the "cool" guys were in the Wolfpac so he wanted Hall in the Black and White. yeah I remember that too.obviosuly the ideal lineup for nWo Wolfpac would ahve been Hall,Nash and Waltman......but it should still have been Hall and Nash. no excuse for that not happening and of course.....NO Sting in the nWo.
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Post by cordless2016 on Mar 25, 2012 9:43:30 GMT -5
lol I remember reading that Hogan was mad that all the "cool" guys were in the Wolfpac so he wanted Hall in the Black and White. yeah I remember that too.obviosuly the ideal lineup for nWo Wolfpac would ahve been Hall,Nash and Waltman......but it should still have been Hall and Nash. no excuse for that not happening and of course.....NO Sting in the nWo. Agreed 100%. The Wolfpac should have been Nash, Hall, and Waltman like you said, but instead, we got Macho, Luger, Sting, and Henning in the group, which made zero sense. I didn't mind Konan in the group as I enjoyed his work and his character fit the idea of a rebel group, but the rest made no sense. Not to say I didn't enjoy the wolfpac at times, but it just seemed so out of place w/ the guys who were in it. The wolfpac theme music was, and still is, awsome. And like you said, no Sting. The guy went from feuding w/ the nwo for over a year to joining them a mere few months later.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2012 11:48:53 GMT -5
yes Konnan was a good fit for the Wolfpac and was a suitable replacement for Waltman because of his persona.I had forgotten Hennig was in there.......didnt he turn on them in no time?
jumping the shark again.turns mean nothing without time served in a role.
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Post by natepadberg on Mar 25, 2012 14:17:43 GMT -5
yeah, they did that with hennig in the horsemen, turned him way too fast. IMO when rude jumped ship after the MSJ, he could have formed his own version of the dangerous alliance with hennig and a few others, i dont know who else i would put in it. or rude, hennig, waltman, nash, and hall would have made a good wolfpac.
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Post by Too Sweet on Mar 25, 2012 20:54:06 GMT -5
yes Konnan was a good fit for the Wolfpac and was a suitable replacement for Waltman because of his persona.I had forgotten Hennig was in there.......didnt he turn on them in no time? jumping the shark again.turns mean nothing without time served in a role. Yeah I too dug Konnan in the Wolfpac, though I wished he took the helm of being the leader of the Latino World Order as it was planned, but Eddie did a good job of it while it lasted. It seemed like since the Wolfpac was gaining popularity, the spotlight hogs wanted to jump all over it, I just don't get though how the Wolfpac was considered a face faction, apart from a great roster of popular guys it still beared the nWo initials. Same happened to the Latino World Order, they were gaining momentum and fans, then Hogan and pals decided to jump all over it, which led to Rey Mysterio being sadly unmasked. Classic WCW booking indeed ( again ).
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Post by marino13 on Mar 31, 2012 16:30:24 GMT -5
Worst thing to happened to Sting's career was Hulk Hogan signing with wCw. As Soon as the Hulkster got there Sting ended up on the back burner and besides a few spurts he stayed there.
I'm a huge fan of (Surfer) Sting but to me personally his legacy is forever tarnished by the years of playing second or third fiddle.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2012 16:51:45 GMT -5
I hate wCw. No company in history did less with more talent than them. I disagree. WWF and Raven.
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Post by cordless2016 on Mar 31, 2012 16:57:42 GMT -5
I hate wCw. No company in history did less with more talent than them. I disagree. WWF and Raven. Add most of the guys from ECW and WCW to that list. For as much as WCW misused guys, the WWF in my opinion has a similar track record of misusing talented guys.
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Post by HuskerTornado on Mar 31, 2012 20:58:54 GMT -5
When you think of WCW in 1998...what didn't they botch and who wasn't misused? They should have been doing the opposite of every move they made.
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Post by cordless2016 on Mar 31, 2012 21:56:59 GMT -5
When you think of WCW in 1998...what didn't they botch and who wasn't misused? They should have been doing the opposite of every move they made. Basically agree w/ this. The only guys who seemed to be used right for the most part were Goldberg and DDP. Goldberg was used right for pretty much all of 1998, until he was actually world champ but was going on PPVs before Hogan's matches. Loosing to Nash at the end of the year and the nWo beat him up on a weekly basis also was a huge mistake w/ his character as well. DDP was also used well for most of the year, and spent most of the year building the creibility of the US title in great feuds w/ Raven, Benoit, and Hart. His face vs face match w/ Goldberg at Halloween Havoc was also one of Goldberg's best matches ever and DDP was the first guy alot of people thought would defeat Goldber after hitting the Diamond Cutter. Besides them, I agree that basically everything else WCW did was backwards.
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Post by johnnypoopypants on Mar 31, 2012 22:08:15 GMT -5
Sting joining the Wolfpac was the worst. I dunno man. He did have that cool red face paint.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2012 9:46:28 GMT -5
I had sometimes wondered why WCW didnt just call Nashs faction the "Wolfpac" and eliminate the nWo part altogether?
it certainly would have made Sting and Luger joining more palatable.
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