JoeyBats
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Post by JoeyBats on Mar 23, 2012 2:15:36 GMT -5
I was wondering why did the WWE have to blur out all the scratch logos and anything to do with them, but the classic WWF logo from the 80's and 90's never have to be blurred?
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Post by Jimmy on Mar 23, 2012 2:39:58 GMT -5
Because when they switched to the scratch logo in 1998 and started promoting themselves as the WWF all over the world, that is when they broke their agreement with the World Wildlife Fund.
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Post by ToastMaster General on Mar 23, 2012 7:18:41 GMT -5
I still don't know why the other WWF has so much power to make them blur out the scratch logo. I mean we still get the classic block logo, what's the damn difference really?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2012 9:16:11 GMT -5
I don't understand why there can't just be two WWF companies. It's not like they are in the same industry or anything...
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Post by mikey1974 on Mar 23, 2012 17:33:31 GMT -5
I still don't know why the other WWF has so much power to make them blur out the scratch logo. I mean we still get the classic block logo, what's the damn difference really? cause the court ordered them to.... it had something to do with the internet i think,about promoting themselves as the WWF on the net,and they had signed that agreement with the World Wildlife Fund ,and like it or not,when the case finally went to court,the Wildlife Fund had that agreement to hold up,and the court had no choice but to go back the original agreement Vinnie Mac had signed,and that HE violated! |
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Post by Tylor on Mar 23, 2012 18:00:16 GMT -5
I wonder how different things would be if they were originally called WWE.
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Post by Cass on Mar 23, 2012 18:06:55 GMT -5
I just always assumed that that was the logo that was used when they were taken to court, so thats the logo that had to change.
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Post by mikey1974 on Mar 23, 2012 19:23:12 GMT -5
I just always assumed that that was the logo that was used when they were taken to court, so thats the logo that had to change. pretty much,yeah...the scratch logo was used during the time they violated the agreement,hence it's off-limits now.... |
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Post by HuskerTornado on Mar 24, 2012 3:42:25 GMT -5
What I heard started the whole thing was an international flight involving a World Wildlife Fund board member or higher-up of some sort. He was talking with the person next to him on the plane, who asked him what he did for a living, and when the man responded "WWF", the other man started asking about the wrestlers. The World Wildlife Fund guy was incredibly offended and flipped out. Supposedly that sparked them to bring about the lawsuit.
The stupid thing about the whole ordeal was that the WWF and WWF should have been able to coexist without any problem. No one was calling Vince McMahon sending donations to help the animals, and no one was calling the world wildlife fund asking when they'd be in their town next and if there would be a cage match.
There are hundreds ADA's, for instance (American Dental Assoc., American Diabetes Assoc., American Dairy Assoc., American Dietetic Assoc, Antique Dealers Assoc., etc., etc.). They all seem to get along.
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Post by Lewscher on Mar 24, 2012 4:02:28 GMT -5
saves starting a new thread, when did wwf stop using the block logo on the corner pads, and start using the scratch logo on them. i know they used the block on wm 14 (1998) but not 15 (1999). many thanks also i know they cant put the wwf block on merchendise, but i honestly didnt know they never blurred it out. They change the corner tv logo to wwe, but they still show the wwf block logo on the corner pads and such without blur. strange  |
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Post by Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai on Mar 26, 2012 21:25:31 GMT -5
It's a strange situation really. The WWF (wrestling promotion) at one point signed an agreement with the WWF (wildlife fund) saying they would not promote themselves as "WWF" outside of the United States, at a time when promoting worldwide wasn't seen as a big deal by the McMahons.
Signing that agreement in the first place was a stupid move, and I bet if they challenged it, they might have won the legal right to coexist as two WWFs in separate businesses. But they gave in, and it ended up biting them in the rear later.
The WWF actually began violating the agreement a long time before the wildlife fund decided to sue them for breach... Summerslam '92, numerous overseas tours, years of merchandise sales all predated the scratch logo. But the wildlife fund's lawsuit didn't come until the peak of the Attitude Era. Even though they lost the lawsuit (and signed the original agreement that started the mess in the first place), the one thing WWE's lawyers did right was they successfully limited the banned logo to just the current logo at the time of the judgment ... meaning the WWF scratch logo was now banned, along with any future identifying of the company as the WWF. Which I believe is why they can allow old footage to show WWF logos except for the scratch logo, but in all cases, they have to edit any time a wrestler, announcer, etc. utters the term "WWF" (but "World Wrestling Federation") is OK since there's no conflict with the full name, only the abbreviation).
A big mess caused 60% by the wildlife fund being pricks and 40% by the McMahons agreeing to unfair terms a long time ago.
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Post by cordless2016 on Mar 26, 2012 22:28:48 GMT -5
"So who do you work for?"
"The WWF."
"Oh, I just heard the news about Taz."
"Yes, the Tasmanian Devil's population is currently very low."
"What..."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2012 23:33:28 GMT -5
I'm sorry but it's just so petty for WWE to have to blur and edit and change years and years of footage just because it shows an old logo.
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Post by threehgame on Mar 26, 2012 23:49:39 GMT -5
If I recall there was a rumor the Panda People offered Vince a cash settlement that would allow him to use the logo so long as he advertised for them and stopped his overseas marketing. Vince and his legal team turned it down. From what I always heard repeated, there never was an offer structured like that but there was some form of expanded settlement offered to the WWE that was a slap in the face. It remains one of the stranger legal cases.
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Post by wyleecyotee on Mar 27, 2012 4:45:14 GMT -5
It's a shame wwe didn't make a deal where they could just make a small yearly donation or work with wwf so they could use the scratch logo.
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Post by mikey1974 on Mar 27, 2012 6:42:30 GMT -5
as much as the Wildlife Fund pisses me off, causes that blurring is really annoying, Vince DID sign that agreement with them...he could've fought them in court ,and definitely won, to be able to keep the WWF moniker forever, back before the whole thing even started.....but he didn't,and like it or not HE violated the agreement he signed....
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Post by Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai on Mar 27, 2012 8:35:34 GMT -5
I wonder if WWE would be able to work out an amendment to the original agreement based on significant hardship and good behavior for the past decade.
Something like "look, we changed the name of our multi-million dollar corporation and didn't utter the term "WWF" for an entire decade (except for the odd slip-up here and there by an old timer) and we incurred hundreds of thousands of dollars expense (maybe even millions) employing video editors to doctor our old footage for logos and for the thousands of times people said "WWF" on camera... we are clearly complying with the judgment. Would you mind letting us off the hook on blurring the logos in old footage, since it's... ya know... OLD footage?"
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Post by ToastMaster General on Mar 27, 2012 9:00:02 GMT -5
I wonder if WWE would be able to work out an amendment to the original agreement based on significant hardship and good behavior for the past decade. Something like "look, we changed the name of our multi-million dollar corporation and didn't utter the term "WWF" for an entire decade (except for the odd slip-up here and there by an old timer) and we incurred hundreds of thousands of dollars expense (maybe even millions) employing video editors to doctor our old footage for logos and for the thousands of times people said "WWF" on camera... we are clearly complying with the judgment. Would you mind letting us off the hook on blurring the logos in old footage, since it's... ya know... OLD footage?" I still believe a "generous" donation can end all of this, all Vince has to do is pay. |
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Post by done on Mar 27, 2012 16:59:21 GMT -5
Why could WWF(panda) just add the Nature part to the end of WWF(N) Lazy ass dicks. I still know lots of people who still call WWE WWF. Saying WWF is a lot better  Plus I like watch old match and hearing "The World Wrestling Federation Champion..." or "The World Wrestling Federation Intercontinental Champion..." etc. "WWE Champion.." NO! everyone knows that it would be awkward if they said "World Wrestling Entertainment Champion..." I say, get the F back!  |
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Post by alexxx on Mar 27, 2012 20:25:05 GMT -5
During Yokozuna's inductee on smackdown last week I notice wwe were blurring the wwf block logo
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