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Post by mikey1974 on Jan 8, 2012 11:21:05 GMT -5
sure,the overall quality of the matches these days are better, but i do kinda miss the old days of Prime Time Wrestling,Superstars,Wrestling Challenge,and the like when you'd have a mid-to-upper card guy come out and face some poor unknown guy in an "enhancement match" with these jobbers,or as i used to call them "Generic Wrestlers"....at the very least it gave you a chance to take a bathroom break (which is usually reserved for Diva's matches these days)...
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Post by June on Jan 8, 2012 11:56:15 GMT -5
I miss them dearly. What better way to showcase your roster of talent than to Pit them against a visably lessor opponent?
Back in the day it was a big deal to see two top stars battle it out in a non PPV match. These matches were usually a mainevent, and more often than not did not have a clean finish, which kept both wrestlers looking strong.
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Post by mikey1974 on Jan 8, 2012 12:18:31 GMT -5
I miss them dearly. What better way to showcase your roster of talent than to Pit them against a visably lessor opponent? Back in the day it was a big deal to see two top stars battle it out in a non PPV match. These matches were usually a mainevent, and more often than not did not have a clean finish, which kept both wrestlers looking strong. this is truth...the top stars usually didn't face each other til a PPV or a Main Event card ,which also helped enhance the events as being "special"... back in the day,they literally spent MONTHS building up to the Megapowers vs the Megabucks at the 1st Summerslam,and it built such a sense of anticipation that people literally couldn't wait for the card! ....today, they'd have Savage be attackde by Dibiase and Andre on Raw,come out later in the night and challenge the 2 of them to a Tag match with his partner Hulk Hogan,and the match would take place the next week, but end in a DQ finish when the Ultimate Warrior inexplicably attacked Hogan and Savage,turning heel... |
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Post by June on Jan 8, 2012 12:37:07 GMT -5
I miss them dearly. What better way to showcase your roster of talent than to Pit them against a visably lessor opponent? Back in the day it was a big deal to see two top stars battle it out in a non PPV match. These matches were usually a mainevent, and more often than not did not have a clean finish, which kept both wrestlers looking strong. this is truth...the top stars usually didn't face each other til a PPV or a Main Event card ,which also helped enhance the events as being "special"... back in the day,they literally spent MONTHS building up to the Megapowers vs the Megabucks at the 1st Summerslam,and it built such a sense of anticipation that people literally couldn't wait for the card! ....today, they'd have Savage be attackde by Dibiase and Andre on Raw,come out later in the night and challenge the 2 of them to a Tag match with his partner Hulk Hogan,and the match would take place the next week, but end in a DQ finish when the Ultimate Warrior inexplicably attacked Hogan and Savage,turning heel... Exactly, today wrestling storylines are on fast-forward, it's almost as if the scripts are tossed in the microwave, it's a sign if the times sadly in this age of instant gratification, where the slow build is a thing of the past, and paying dues is nolonger a prerequisite for a top spot on the roster, and titles are passed around like a blonde at a swingers party. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2012 13:35:23 GMT -5
Jobber squash matches ended when the Monday Night War began. The competition forced both companies to showcase their main stars only. Sadly the business moves way to fast today and they still have that mindset. However, yes I so sometimes miss the jobber squash matches.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2012 13:37:50 GMT -5
Jobber squash matches ended when the Monday Night War began. The competition forced both companies to showcase their main stars only. Sadly the business moves way to fast today and they still have that mindset. However, yes I so sometimes miss the jobber squash matches. Bingo.the MNW forced them to bring their A game to every show....every week.lots of PPV caliber matches given away for free in the name of ratings |
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Post by Cass on Jan 8, 2012 16:11:56 GMT -5
Jobber squash matches ended when the Monday Night War began. The competition forced both companies to showcase their main stars only. Sadly the business moves way to fast today and they still have that mindset. However, yes I so sometimes miss the jobber squash matches. Bingo.the MNW forced them to bring their A game to every show....every week.lots of PPV caliber matches given away for free in the name of ratings Well on their main shows it did. Saturday night still used enhancement talent I'm pretty sure. Same as Shotgun and Heat after WM15. Even Heat all the way til its end had jobbers. You could say that Superstars, Challenge and Prime Time were replaced by Heat, Shotgun and Jakked/Metal. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2012 17:16:42 GMT -5
Bingo.the MNW forced them to bring their A game to every show....every week.lots of PPV caliber matches given away for free in the name of ratings Well on their main shows it did. Saturday night still used enhancement talent I'm pretty sure. Same as Shotgun and Heat after WM15. Even Heat all the way til its end had jobbers. You could say that Superstars, Challenge and Prime Time were replaced by Heat, Shotgun and Jakked/Metal. sorry yeah on Raw and Nitro it did.the B shows retained them although I cant for the life of me remember them really. |
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Post by nibs92 on Jan 8, 2012 18:47:19 GMT -5
I really miss jobbers too! it was great watching a superstar destroying them, making the star look like a million dollars! Sid in 1992 on the run up to WM8 springs to mind, where he would destroy them, the jobber would then be stretchered out only to be thrown off the stretcher by Sid.
As mentioned as well, you could keep a star fresh and relevant by having them face enhancement talent and building them up to a supershow. Now it's very rare to see a match between two opponents on PPV that you haven't seen countless times on Raw/Smackdown.
Me and my friend even had favourite jobbers back in the day. Mine was Dale Wolfe (any one remember him?) and his was Louie Spicolli.
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Post by DTP. on Jan 8, 2012 19:15:40 GMT -5
WCW still had a lot of squash matches on Nitro throughout 1997 up until 2001.
Sure, it was uppercarders vs lowercarders in a one-sided beatdown that lasted two minutes, but still, I'd class the undercarders as jobbers; since unless you were a cruiserweight and wasn't over with the crowd, were unknown.
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Post by K5 on Jan 8, 2012 22:39:41 GMT -5
they're more nostalgic than me for anything, and i don't miss them too much as they're a youtube search away. but yes, it's sad that era of tv wrestling ended.
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Post by wabarrett on Jan 9, 2012 11:57:23 GMT -5
Personally, I've not once been impressed by seeing someone squash a jobber or a local guy. Thus, I don't miss jobbers at all. I prefer the competitiveness we see today for the most part.
But I'll agree that they give too many big matches away on free TV nowadays and then try and sell a PPV with the same match later on, which is stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2012 15:44:29 GMT -5
sure,the overall quality of the matches these days are better, but i do kinda miss the old days of Prime Time Wrestling,Superstars,Wrestling Challenge,and the like when you'd have a mid-to-upper card guy come out and face some poor unknown guy in an "enhancement match" with these jobbers,or as i used to call them "Generic Wrestlers"....at the very least it gave you a chance to take a bathroom break (which is usually reserved for Diva's matches these days)... What? |
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Post by kazoosandstreamers on Jan 9, 2012 18:11:13 GMT -5
I miss the job squad more.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2012 21:39:06 GMT -5
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Post by jasonphoenix1 on Jan 10, 2012 0:11:03 GMT -5
I miss certain jobbers/ not exactly squash jobbers but Brooklyn Brawler,Barry Horowitz,Damian Demento. Jobbers more along those lines that did not get squashed as much as put up a fight but lost almost every match they had to a bigger name.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Jan 10, 2012 8:30:45 GMT -5
Oh, I definitely miss jobbers like Iron Mike Sharpe, Tom Stone, Barry Hardy, John Paul, Omar Atlas, Black Bart, Tony Roy, Scott Casey, Brian Costello, Terry Gibbs, Larry Stevens, Mario Mancini and Tommy Angel to name a few.
I know fans today have absolutely NO idea who these guys are, but they made a lasting impact on me. Enough of one for me to remember them after all these years.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2012 9:06:35 GMT -5
Jobber squash matches ended when the Monday Night War began. The competition forced both companies to showcase their main stars only. Sadly the business moves way to fast today and they still have that mindset. However, yes I so sometimes miss the jobber squash matches. Very true. As an older fan, I grew up watching Arn & Tully destroying the Mulkey Brothers on one channel, while Mario Mancini and Rusty Brooks laid down on the other. The concept and appreciation of Jobbers is gone from mainstream. The problem is that isntead of using up & coming talent from FCW, they/WWE cycles Mid Card guys that either didn't work as planned in main event runs or simply determine that a specific guy is going to be the one to be squashed on a consistent basis between pushes, more or less killing any potential for growth they might have. Koslov could have been something bigger. Jack Swagger was rushed and fell victim to WWE Purgatory as the guy who takes everyones finishes at House Shows while jobbing to the stars on televised events. Even Santino, who really is more of an comedic relief attraction than a wrestler, will win every so often, but let's be honest...we will never take him seriously. Jobbers really are a lost breed. Their role really helped save careers back in the day. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2012 13:01:58 GMT -5
Remember when they gave Barry Horowitz a gimmick?
Didn't he even get a match at Summerslam 1995?
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Post by Bullgod on Jan 11, 2012 11:06:31 GMT -5
The loss of Jobbers to me is what has killed wrestling. I remember ever week you'd see the superstars just anhialate a jobber and then again the week after, but then when they'd put 2 superstars against each other it was a big deal. Unfortunately they can never go back to this and you see Superstar vs Superstar every week, and now when it comes to PPV's theres nothing to looks forward to, considdering the guys wrestling on the PPV wrestled each other on Raw or Smackdown 2 or 3 times in the last 2 months.
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