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Post by robl7up on Nov 12, 2011 15:54:30 GMT -5
Why didnt this man ever be given a chance to be the WORLD CHAMP?
He had it all,GREAT promos,in ring skills,the guy had size....To me he was SOOO underated,should of been WORLD CHAMP.
Anybody ever here why? or is it just one of those times WWF dropped the ball?
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Post by ToastMaster General on Nov 12, 2011 16:01:00 GMT -5
Muraco was in my opinon one of the greatest I-C champions ever. He could've been the man in a world without Hulk Hogan, but....that didn't happen sadly. At least we got some killer feuds out of the true "Rock".
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Post by jammer311 on Nov 12, 2011 16:20:19 GMT -5
The same could be said for a lot of guys in that era. Paul Orndorff, Roddy Piper, Magnificent Muraco, Jake "The Snake" Roberts, and so on. It was the Hogan era during the 80s. But I don't think none of those guys really cared about being champion, when they saw the crazy amount of money they got for working Hogan at various shows.
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Post by robl7up on Nov 12, 2011 16:47:20 GMT -5
I'm thinking more when Backlund was champ..
I think that he should of beaten Backlund. Even though I was a fan of Backlund,always thought he should of had a run at that time.
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Post by mikey1974 on Nov 12, 2011 19:58:54 GMT -5
as others said,it was the Hogan factor...once he got the Belt put on him,and his popularity skyrocketed beyond the realm of the possible,it was over....no one else was going to touch that belt til Vince saw the dollars level off a bit,or Hogan asked for a break from it....
but,yeah,Muraco would've been a great heel champ...it's still a travesty that Piper never got a run,even if it was a short one...Orndorff might've had the "Hogan spot" if Terry hadn't shown up first....and it's funny,Jake loves to talk about how he started a program with Hogan,and literally got more cheers than the hulkster in some arena's, making Vince panic and cancel the program between the two....
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Post by STING on Nov 15, 2011 3:47:54 GMT -5
Dibiase and Perfect are two heels I always wondered why they wasn't World Champions. Those two had it all. As for Dibiase, they never even let him be IC champ. I always thought both of those were World Champion material.
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Post by jammer311 on Nov 15, 2011 16:33:34 GMT -5
Ted was IC Champion, if you want to get technical. He was the last North American Champion, then I believe they stripped him of it, renamed it the Intercontinental Title and had Pat Patterson have it. That was back in 1979 though.
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Post by mikey1974 on Nov 15, 2011 18:21:25 GMT -5
DiBiase WAS booked to be World Champ in 1988,but plans changed .....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2011 11:20:06 GMT -5
DiBiase WAS booked to be World Champ in 1988,but plans changed ..... correct.between his(ultra boring)shoot and Honkys shoot the whole story is in there. |
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Post by nibs92 on Nov 16, 2011 20:50:12 GMT -5
DiBiase WAS booked to be World Champ in 1988,but plans changed ..... correct.between his(ultra boring)shoot and Honkys shoot the whole story is in there. Could you elaborate on that? would really like to know the story! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2011 14:19:48 GMT -5
ok man heres what I know from both sides of the story.
the freshly turned face Macho Man was to receive a mega push and relieve Honky of the IC title.however when Honky went to the meeting he discovered he was to be hammered by Savage and wasnt adressed or spoken to at all by Vince.
Honky went on the road and contacted JCP(knowing Vince would hear of this)Vince rang him and talked things through with him and said they were going another way.
the other way was Savage winning the World title tourney instead of Dibiase.Vince would tell Honky at the meeting his IC loss when it came would be to establish a major player(at that time Beefcake was that guy but ended up being warrior)
Dibiase confirms on his shoot he was pencilled in to win it and Honky effed things up.
others have said that Vince soured on the idea of Dibaise winning because his fairytale WM ending wouldnt be present but ALL say Honky started the change.also Hogans hand was present here.....
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Post by nibs92 on Nov 17, 2011 16:09:39 GMT -5
ok man heres what I know from both sides of the story. the freshly turned face Macho Man was to receive a mega push and relieve Honky of the IC title.however when Honky went to the meeting he discovered he was to be hammered by Savage and wasnt adressed or spoken to at all by Vince. Honky went on the road and contacted JCP(knowing Vince would hear of this)Vince rang him and talked things through with him and said they were going another way. the other way was Savage winning the World title tourney instead of Dibiase.Vince would tell Honky at the meeting his IC loss when it came would be to establish a major player(at that time Beefcake was that guy but ended up being warrior) Dibiase confirms on his shoot he was pencilled in to win it and Honky effed things up. others have said that Vince soured on the idea of Dibaise winning because his fairytale WM ending wouldnt be present but ALL say Honky started the change.also Hogans hand was present here..... Cheers Joker! Still would have loved to see DiBiase win the belt. It would have been pretty cool if Andre had laid down for DiBiase, making him champion, then Macho could have beaten him at WM4 WM4 was never one of my favourites, i think the tournament was a bit too much. too many filler matches. |
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Post by jammer311 on Nov 17, 2011 16:35:52 GMT -5
Bam Bam Bigelow also says in his shoot dvd that HE was scheduled to win the WWE Title at Wrestlemania 4, but he blew out his knee and then damaged his other knee so that was dropped. It's why he jobbed to Gang so fast and easily in the first round.
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Post by Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai on Nov 18, 2011 0:34:03 GMT -5
I actually wouldn't have minded seeing Muraco win the world title at some point in the Bob Backlund era. That's when Muraco was at his peak anyhow, and I'm of the opinion Backlund's reign was a little too one-sided.
Muraco did a stint in Mid-Atlantic in the early 80s too, though, so maybe Vince Sr. was unsure if he could count on Muraco to stick around for a title reign? I dunno. But he definitely had the talent.
I don't think he really had a shot during the Hogan era though. He made a great challenger for Hogan those first 2 or 3 years, but honestly, there were better heel options by that time (Roddy Piper & Randy Savage in particular) that probably would have gotten the nod before Don Muraco.
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Post by CMPunkSavior on Nov 21, 2011 13:03:47 GMT -5
correct.between his(ultra boring)shoot and Honkys shoot the whole story is in there. Sorry for the slight derail but recently having met DiBiase and reading his 2nd book it's not a surprise to me that his shoot is boring. I don't know how Ted DiBiase the man can be so different from the Million Dollar Man character. Don't get me wrong he is a very nice guy but just completely different from what I grew up watching on TV. Just another case of people not being how they are on TV but man it's drastically different in personality. Anyways he said he was okay with not being champion because a heel is a transitional champion anyways so he would not have held it long and also he was getting the million dollar belt. I don't buy it though. |
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Nov 22, 2011 4:38:05 GMT -5
I'm sure he was ok with not having the title. DiBiase didn't need it, and I'm sure made just as much without it as he was still in main event matches. Besides, The Mega Powers exploding is quite possibly the best angle of all time, so I can't imagine any of it going differently.
As for Muraco, he would have been an excellent champ, but he was from an era when they didn't just throw the belt around like they do now. Also, wrestlers weren't usually belt marks back then, o most of them wouldn't care about being champ unless it meant more money. With the spot on the card he usually had, I'm not sure how much more it would have meant.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2011 5:38:02 GMT -5
correct.between his(ultra boring)shoot and Honkys shoot the whole story is in there. Sorry for the slight derail but recently having met DiBiase and reading his 2nd book it's not a surprise to me that his shoot is boring. I don't know how Ted DiBiase the man can be so different from the Million Dollar Man character. Don't get me wrong he is a very nice guy but just completely different from what I grew up watching on TV. Just another case of people not being how they are on TV but man it's drastically different in personality. Anyways he said he was okay with not being champion because a heel is a transitional champion anyways so he would not have held it long and also he was getting the million dollar belt. I don't buy it though. his shoot was like being in church.very little of interest in there. |
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