Wrestlemania X Ladder IC Title Match

[kidbukid_customs]

I was just watching the True Story of Wrestlemania and was viewing this match just a few minutes ago. It is always shown during ladder match history highlights esp. Michaels splashed Razor from the top of the ladder, and this was the first time I saw the match in full.

I can say there were some moments that felt boring, they were basically lying on the mat while recovering from attacks. But of course, I think I'm just used to the "Jeff Hardy type" of recent ladder matches where there are so many spots in such a small span of time. And I can't over the fact that Michaels already untangled his leg from the ropes only for his arm to be tangled, seemingly giving Razor enough time to capture the belts.

That is merely my opinion on the match, kindly share yours if you may.. Thanks!

[Nivro™]

It was a great match but not one I was a big fan of really. I enjoyed the Hart-HBK ladder match much more then I did this one. Maybe cause it was my first i dunno.

[The Abdominal Toaster™]

Oct 18, 2011 9:33:49 GMT -5 Nivro™ said:

It was a great match but not one I was a big fan of really. I enjoyed the Hart-HBK ladder match much more then I did this one. Maybe cause it was my first i dunno.

I love how WWE tried to hide the fact that Bret-Shawn happened first. They should know they can't hide history lol.

BOT: I liked the match myself just not more than once to watch it. Really you have to look at it like you explained it. 1994 vs 2004 for instance. Everything picked up in speed. It's just a changing of the times. Imagine back in the day though how awesome that match actually would have been had you not been exposed to any other ladder matches at the time.

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IMO an excellent encounter.

and Flair is 100% wrong when he says it was "Shawn and a ladder in there"Hall was just as important top the sucess of these 2 great matches.

[jammer311]

Ric Flair had to say that, if it wasn't for HBK and Triple H, I am sure Flair would have been let go by WWE years before he was.

I still say that the SummerSlam 95 ladder match was better than the WM 10 one. I felt there was more psychology in the SS 95 one, just with Razor working on HBK's knee/leg. WM 10 seemed like it was a head of its time with 'how many cool spots can we do with the ladder' type feel to it.

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I like SS95 better too man.

[Deleted]

I still enjoy the WM X ladder match but I feel it's a little overrated as well.

I liked both the Bret vs. Shawn ladder match and the Summerslam 1995 ladder match more than WM X though...

I think WM X is so popular because it was the "first one" shown on at a PPV/TV event and because it was pretty good.

[tnafan17: The Total Package]

Oct 18, 2011 10:40:38 GMT -5 JokerFC said:

IMO an excellent encounter.

and Flair is 100% wrong when he says it was "Shawn and a ladder in there"Hall was just as important top the sucess of these 2 great matches.

Yeah completely untrue. And you realize that Shawn never said that cause he knows that Hall worked just as hard as he did.

Kinda weird on his DVD they had Triple H make the statement considering they were all apart of the "Kliq"

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Oct 18, 2011 12:18:30 GMT -5 tnafan17: The Total Package said:

Oct 18, 2011 10:40:38 GMT -5 JokerFC said:

IMO an excellent encounter.

and Flair is 100% wrong when he says it was "Shawn and a ladder in there"Hall was just as important top the sucess of these 2 great matches.

Yeah completely untrue. And you realize that Shawn never said that cause he knows that Hall worked just as hard as he did.

Kinda weird on his DVD they had Triple H make the statement considering they were all apart of the "Kliq"

yeah thats weird for sure.......

[jeffro2000]

I remember watching it when it came on, I was 12 or so. Was my 1st Wmania that I bought on PPV. I thought it was terrific, I thought I had just watched a great match. Its still a great match. Some may like the newer style jumping off 20ft ladders through tables better and thats all opinion. Different style now, but for its time, it was great along with the Summerslam one. I would rather watch those than Jeff hardy matches.

[wyleecyotee]

I first watched the match on the Ladder Match DVD I think (may have been slightly before then) but it was still after TLC 1 and 2 and ladder matches around that time. I was still utterly amazed by the match from WM 10, I loved how they told the story and the fact it was more a wrestling match with ladders than spot fest. The finish was a little irritating but overall I love the match and seem to be one of a few who prefer it to Summerslam 95.

[Sam Hain]

I thought I was the only person that preferred the SummerSlam rematch! Neat!

[Johnny Wrestling]

I haven't seen that match before, but I can understand what you are saying. Let's just remember that back in those times, a DDT or a chairshot were enough to keep someone down, but ECW and hardcore wrestling as a whole changed that and made it edgier, leading it to what we saw back in the Attitude Era.

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Oct 18, 2011 23:29:35 GMT -5 Sam Hain said:

I thought I was the only person that preferred the SummerSlam rematch! Neat!

there ya go man!!

it was Power Slam magazine that got me thinking about it......then I watched them back to back and I found myself prefering the SS95 rematch.

[jammer311]

Imagine if that SS 95 ladder match didn't happen?? That ppv would be awful. The Sid/HBK match would be okay, but when they took Sid out and put Razor in there and in a ladder match at that, it totally saved that ppv.

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Oct 19, 2011 10:49:30 GMT -5 @jammer311 said:

Imagine if that SS 95 ladder match didn't happen?? That ppv would be awful. The Sid/HBK match would be okay, but when they took Sid out and put Razor in there and in a ladder match at that, it totally saved that ppv.

it did.in retrospect 95 was a dreadful year for WWF.HBK and Bret were often the highlights of the PPVs.

just look at the RR.....whoo boy.

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You can look at it this way.

This is the Match that made Shawn Michaels into Main Event status. He went from opening all Wrestlemanias to the Main Event afterwards. Shawn Michaels over the past 10 years has ruled in terms of classic matches, real story telling (Undertaker being the other resulting in the greatest WM matches that the younger wrestlers can only dream of) and essentially stole every Wrestlemania. Something the Hardy types can primarily do through shock factor. No shock to see those types end up where they end up instead having more longevity.

The Jeff Hardy stuff is what has contributed to Pro Wrestling into nothing more than a acrobatic exhibition that has lost almost all of its psychological aspect to suit a attention deficit, visual hungry audience. If you were not around to watch and appreciate the Razor Shawn WM match at that time, within that context, you will not understand. One day, when you are older, someone younger will likely say the same thing. You will sit there and say something like 'at the time, it was a real highly quality match what the Hardys did'.

Part of the boring parts you mention has to do with the selling that took place in that era, which actually had the effect of making things more realistic (watch carefully Shawn's recent matches... alot more selling and slower pacing than current peers which actually is great story telling). At the time, that type of match really felt real, with every ladder shot seemingly almost crippling the victim. You would have been exhausted watching it.

It was a watershed moment that impacted all the crazier minded stuff that wrestlers adopted afterwards. And for it to happen at the biggest stage, has made it that much more meaningful. Unfortunately, many times with the 'Jeff Hardy type matches', it has been a vain attempt to try to capture the shock value of that WMX match without understanding the underlying psychological components that make a memorable match and compelling story telling.