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Post by done on Jun 28, 2011 12:33:46 GMT -5
its an awful pity about Awesome but Vince was in a tough spot too.a lot fo the ECW guys on the WWF roster legit disliked him-just like Heyman.... Awesome, should of also gotten a contract after his ''awesome'' match with Tanaka at ONS, even Tanaka should of gotten a contract! Maybe they would of saved WWECW - Awesome being the Cena of WWECW! |
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Post by machoking on Jun 28, 2011 16:02:18 GMT -5
He really didnt fit in either of the big 2. He really had no charisma, he couldnt get a reaction unless he did some big spot and the guy just didnt have the "it" factor. I think Japan and ECW were the perfect places for him but he should have never sniffed the main event or world title picture in WWF or WCW.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2011 16:05:02 GMT -5
Mike was and is always going to be one of my favorite wrestlers. I always loved him with his ring work, a true hardcore legend. You don't many that come along like him anymore. The reason I love Sheamus so much is because Sheamus is basically the modern day Mike Awesome
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Post by done on Jun 28, 2011 16:08:43 GMT -5
Mike was and is always going to be one of my favorite wrestlers. I always loved him with his ring work, a true hardcore legend. You don't many that come along like him anymore. The reason I love Sheamus so much is because Sheamus is basically the modern day Mike Awesome Pretty true, Sheamus is a lot like Awesome, all he needs are some tables!  |
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Post by cordless2016 on Jun 28, 2011 23:46:31 GMT -5
He really didnt fit in either of the big 2. He really had no charisma, he couldnt get a reaction unless he did some big spot and the guy just didnt have the "it" factor. I think Japan and ECW were the perfect places for him but he should have never sniffed the main event or world title picture in WWF or WCW. It's true that his charisma wasn't that great, but had they given him a manager like Paul Heyman to be his mouth piece, I believe that he could have been given a similar push to what Brock Lesnar had and would have been just as over as him. Lesnar was a once in a lifetime athlete and a great in-ring wrestler, but Awsome was great to and I believe that he could have gotten over as much as Lesnar did had he been given Heyman as a manager and given a similar monster push. I would have given anything to have seen an Awsome vs Undertaker feud. |
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Post by done on Jun 29, 2011 7:50:39 GMT -5
He really didnt fit in either of the big 2. He really had no charisma, he couldnt get a reaction unless he did some big spot and the guy just didnt have the "it" factor. I think Japan and ECW were the perfect places for him but he should have never sniffed the main event or world title picture in WWF or WCW. It's true that his charisma wasn't that great, but had they given him a manager like Paul Heyman to be his mouth piece, I believe that he could have been given a similar push to what Brock Lesnar had and would have been just as over as him. Lesnar was a once in a lifetime athlete and a great in-ring wrestler, but Awsome was great to and I believe that he could have gotten over as much as Lesnar did had he been given Heyman as a manager and given a similar monster push. I would have given anything to have seen an Awsome vs Undertaker feud. That is true, because if they gave him Paul and left Awesome as a silent guy, Awesome would be a beast lol |
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Post by Himmy! on Jun 29, 2011 13:19:20 GMT -5
I love Mike Awesome, a very talented big man capable of great things. It's a shame it didn't work out for him in the US except for ECW.
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Post by machoking on Jun 29, 2011 13:30:14 GMT -5
He really didnt fit in either of the big 2. He really had no charisma, he couldnt get a reaction unless he did some big spot and the guy just didnt have the "it" factor. I think Japan and ECW were the perfect places for him but he should have never sniffed the main event or world title picture in WWF or WCW. It's true that his charisma wasn't that great, but had they given him a manager like Paul Heyman to be his mouth piece, I believe that he could have been given a similar push to what Brock Lesnar had and would have been just as over as him. Lesnar was a once in a lifetime athlete and a great in-ring wrestler, but Awsome was great to and I believe that he could have gotten over as much as Lesnar did had he been given Heyman as a manager and given a similar monster push. I would have given anything to have seen an Awsome vs Undertaker feud. A mouth piece still wouldnt have helped him. He wouldnt have been any more then a Mike Knox or a Gene Snitsky. (Ok, maybe SLIGHTLY higher then them) Brock had an "it" factor to him. Awesome didnt. The only thing Awesome could do that gave people a wow factor was pull off powerbombs from different areas of the ring. |
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Post by cordless2016 on Jun 29, 2011 16:09:46 GMT -5
It's true that his charisma wasn't that great, but had they given him a manager like Paul Heyman to be his mouth piece, I believe that he could have been given a similar push to what Brock Lesnar had and would have been just as over as him. Lesnar was a once in a lifetime athlete and a great in-ring wrestler, but Awsome was great to and I believe that he could have gotten over as much as Lesnar did had he been given Heyman as a manager and given a similar monster push. I would have given anything to have seen an Awsome vs Undertaker feud. A mouth piece still wouldnt have helped him. He wouldnt have been any more then a Mike Knox or a Gene Snitsky. (Ok, maybe SLIGHTLY higher then them) Brock had an "it" factor to him. Awesome didnt. The only thing Awesome could do that gave people a wow factor was pull off powerbombs from different areas of the ring. A mouth piece would have done wonders for him. Like I said, Lesnar was a once in a lifetime athlete, and not everybody would have gotten over w/ Hayman as a manager and the push he got(Heidenrich bombed badly), but to compare Awsome to Snitsky and Knox is a huge joke. Awsome could actually go in the ring and put on great matches. His time in WCW was a joke(but everything in WCW was at that time), and was never really given a chance in the WWF. Awsome could have gotten over as a main eventer had he been given a mouth piece and the ability to show off what he could do in the ring. |
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Post by bountyhunterblood5 on Jul 1, 2011 13:01:25 GMT -5
if WCW had handled him better, WWF may have. no one except ECW truly used that guy to his fullest potential. Very true but like F1shcustoms said he wasnt a WWF type of guy. |
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Post by steel on Jul 1, 2011 13:23:11 GMT -5
He was indeed a solid wrestler but the stint in WcW killed his credibility. Leaving ECW where he was the top dog, only to be made into a joke must have really impacted him severely for him to do what he did later on down the road.
Vince has never been one to push talent originating outside the WWE (with few exceptions) and the WcW stint did nothing to help that.
He definitely deserved more than what he was dealt, as did many others from that time. That last ECW ppv match was..awesome.
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Post by candygallows on Jul 1, 2011 13:24:41 GMT -5
This is all my opinion offcourse, But [glow=red,2,300]it always seems like talent means nothing to Vince Mcmahon. Infact the more over you are in another company, The harder it seems he trys to tear you down.[/glow] Mike Awesome was one of my favorite wrestlers in ECW and as soon as they had him job to Edge and Christian at Invasion, I knew Vince had no plans for him. I believe a full fledged ECW Mike Awesome would of made wrestlers like Undertaker and Kane look bad because he was "IMO" 100 times more athletic. He had a anti WWF moveset with multiple powerbombs, None of the big names will take all those bombs. He just wasnt a WWF guy, He was best served with a side of Extreme lol Never thought about how true that was until now |
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Post by johnnypoopypants on Jul 2, 2011 7:27:10 GMT -5
What ever happened to this guy after ONS 05? He could obviously still wrestle extremely well, why wasn't he signed?
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Post by Boy Wonder on Jul 2, 2011 7:32:59 GMT -5
I always consider him one of my kind of "WTF" top favorite guys (guys who I consider to be one of my all time favorites that you wouldn't expect to see)
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Post by done on Jul 2, 2011 7:59:58 GMT -5
What ever happened to this guy after ONS 05? He could obviously still wrestle extremely well, why wasn't he signed? That is was Awesome! They should of given him at least a five year contract for his performance! |
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Jul 4, 2011 22:39:54 GMT -5
There are a two big things that made it so he didn't become huge in WWE.
First is the fact that WCW had already made him a complete joke. The Fat Chick thriller and That 70's guy gimmicks were just horrid.
Add to that the fact that he came in with the invasion, and they already had a ton of top guys and were trying to get over plenty other WCW and ECW guys. Say what you want about his skills in the ring (and I agree whole heartedly), but he was limited on the mic and just didn't have the presence of guys like Austin, Rock, or Taker.
I would love t have seen him do more in the company, but I just don't think there was a place for it.
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Post by done on Jul 6, 2011 10:17:28 GMT -5
There are a two big things that made it so he didn't become huge in WWE. First is the fact that WCW had already made him a complete joke. The Fat Chick thriller and That 70's guy gimmicks were just horrid. Add to that the fact that he came in with the invasion, and they already had a ton of top guys and were trying to get over plenty other WCW and ECW guys. Say what you want about his skills in the ring (and I agree whole heartedly), but he was limited on the mic and just didn't have the presence of guys like Austin, Rock, or Taker. I would love t have seen him do more in the company, but I just don't think there was a place for it. That's pretty much it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2011 18:18:04 GMT -5
you lads are seriously underestimating the hate felt for him by Heyman and certain ex ECW wrestlers in 2001 AND 2005.
also Im nearly sure he had to leave ONS2005 straight after his match because of this.
he was roundly hated by "the boys"for walking out on ECW for WCW as champ.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Jul 7, 2011 3:44:33 GMT -5
He wasn't over because WWE/WCW stuck him in meaningless, mid-card angles and rarely let him showcase the in-ring ability which got him over in ECW.
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Post by done on Jul 7, 2011 10:35:19 GMT -5
you lads are seriously underestimating the hate felt for him by Heyman and certain ex ECW wrestlers in 2001 AND 2005. also Im nearly sure he had to leave ONS2005 straight after his match because of this. he was roundly hated by "the boys"for walking out on ECW for WCW as champ. But if Heyman and the guys had just left the past in the past, and gave him a contract in WWECW, he would of saved WWECW! I think WCW was what got to Awesome which lead to him killing himself. |
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