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Post by hulkhogancollector on Jul 28, 2011 16:12:06 GMT -5
ok heres my top 10 ion no order 1)Ric Flair 2)Macho Man Randy Savage from 89-91 3)Million $ man Ted Dibiase 4)Bobby Heenan 5)HBK in 97/98-my God that was some super heat. 6)Vince Mcmahon 7)Ravishing Rick Rude 8)Rowdy Roddy Piper around WM1 9)HHH after WM15 and then again in 2002-2006 10)Hollywood Hogan-undeniable. Great list there I would add Razor Ramon WWF 1992
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Post by koreygunz on Jul 28, 2011 16:50:03 GMT -5
As most have alluded to, I think you could make two types of lists: the best heels based on a specific time frame and the best heels of ALL TIME. When I think ALL TIME, I think of people who were prbably heels most of their career and no matter the circumstances made people want to see them get beat up or boo them- in essence you love to hate them. With that as my criteria, I would say my top 5 would include:
Ric Flair Bobby Heenan Hollywood Hogan Ted Dibiase Roddy Piper
Hnorable Mentions would include Rick Rude, HHH, and Shawn Michaels
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Aug 2, 2011 1:07:15 GMT -5
Slaughter was a very good heel even back in the 80s. he's mostly just remembered for his face runs during the time, but he was a great heel in Mid Atlantic. I still wouldn't call him the best, just have to mention how great Sarge is when I can For my money though, it's Piper. He's completely unreal. There are many people who are very close, but he's at the top for me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2011 7:42:29 GMT -5
I would say there is a few ..
HHH when he pedigreed xpac at wmxv and screwed what we thought was a dx reunion earlier in the night. Only to join Mcmahons Corporation!!
Bobby Heenan best heel manager !
Psycho Sid when he turned on HBK
Hulk hogan joining the outsiders / nwo
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2011 12:51:18 GMT -5
I would say there is a few .. HHH when he pedigreed xpac at wmxv and screwed what we thought was a dx reunion earlier in the night. Only to join Mcmahons Corporation!! that is one of the most shocking and least talked about turns EVER. not only did nobody see it coming the number 2# face in the company became the no1# heel in the company overnight. HHH had incredible heel heat for doing that.and I dont think its unfair to say he was second only in popularity to Austin because he and the DX army were over like effin rover.
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Post by Burger Lad on Aug 3, 2011 13:54:59 GMT -5
I'm glad Bobby Heenan got mentions in this cause he has been one of the best. Not the greatest but a good heel and not mentioned so far.... Earthquake. Not a technical wrestler but still an enjoyable heel and to me back then...belivable. Another big man with no mention being Yokozuna - he was the top heel in WWF for a few years if I remember? And trying to add any not already mentioned... Vader in WCW
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Post by skribbel24 on Aug 3, 2011 14:49:54 GMT -5
To me the greatest heel of all time is ironically also the greatest baby face of all time: Hulk Hogan
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2011 18:31:26 GMT -5
I'm glad Bobby Heenan got mentions in this cause he has been one of the best. And trying to add any not already mentioned... Vader in WCW I considered Vader in WCW........and as for Heenan I dont see how anyone couldnt list him. association with Heenan meant instant villiany
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Post by Damien Demento for HOF on Aug 6, 2011 4:33:18 GMT -5
Damien Demento for sure. More underappreciated than anyone else.
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Post by tnafan17: The Total Package on Aug 6, 2011 7:12:47 GMT -5
Flair Rude Dibiase Piper Hollywood Hogan
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Post by "Living Legend" Duttanized on Aug 6, 2011 20:23:34 GMT -5
SCSA.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2011 22:01:43 GMT -5
Id say its between Shawn Michaels in 1997, Ric Flair throughout the 80's/90's, Mr McMahon during the attitude era, The Million Dollar Man in the late 80's and Triple H between 1999 and 2001. All of the above had major heat during those eras. DiBiase kicking that kids Basketball really shines through. And following the montreal screwjob, HBK still cant get a good reaction in Canada.
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Post by Halloween King on Aug 20, 2011 1:04:44 GMT -5
The best heel ever is Andre the Giant
He had 93000 + people go see him, until this attendance record is broken Andre and Hogan will always be the best wrestlers in History.
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Post by King Clayton of the MidWest on Aug 20, 2011 1:07:41 GMT -5
Top 5:
5. nWo-Hogan 4.Mr.Prefect 3.Bam Bam Bigelow 2.HHH 1.Rick Rude.
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Post by machoking on Aug 20, 2011 3:10:23 GMT -5
Top 5
1)Ric Flair 2)Tully Blanchard 3)Roddy Piper 4)Ted DiBiase 5)Bobby Heenan (Throw in a Manager for taste)
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Post by greenjack1992 on Aug 20, 2011 12:40:04 GMT -5
Dudley Boyz hands down for me.
No one got more heat than they did.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Aug 20, 2011 23:13:06 GMT -5
The best heel ever is Andre the Giant He had 93000 + people go see him, until this attendance record is broken Andre and Hogan will always be the best wrestlers in History. LOL! That logic isn't only flawed since 'Dre was a face for 80% of his career, but it also ignores facts. Wrestlemania 3 isn't the most attended wrestling event. In 1995, NJPW held two shows on two days, both of which creamed WM3's attendance record: In 1995 the Japanese and Korean governments came together to hold a two-day wrestling festival for peace in Pyongyang, North Korea. The event drew 150,000 and 190,000 fans respectively to Rungrado May Day Stadium. The main event saw the only match between Inoki and Ric Flair with Inoki winning. Days before this event, Inoki and the Korean press went to the grave and birthplace of Rikidôzan and paid tribute to him. wiki.puroresu.com/Antonio_InokiBy your logic, that makes Antonio Inoki the greatest babyface ever and Ric Flair the greatest heel ever, without question?
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Post by machoking on Aug 21, 2011 0:56:02 GMT -5
The best heel ever is Andre the Giant He had 93000 + people go see him, until this attendance record is broken Andre and Hogan will always be the best wrestlers in History. LOL! That logic isn't only flawed since 'Dre was a face for 80% of his career, but it also ignores facts. Wrestlemania 3 isn't the most attended wrestling event. In 1995, NJPW held two shows on two days, both of which creamed WM3's attendance record: In 1995 the Japanese and Korean governments came together to hold a two-day wrestling festival for peace in Pyongyang, North Korea. The event drew 150,000 and 190,000 fans respectively to Rungrado May Day Stadium. The main event saw the only match between Inoki and Ric Flair with Inoki winning. Days before this event, Inoki and the Korean press went to the grave and birthplace of Rikidôzan and paid tribute to him. wiki.puroresu.com/Antonio_InokiBy your logic, that makes Antonio Inoki the greatest babyface ever and Ric Flair the greatest heel ever, without question? Dont forget 1987 was before factual numbers had to be released and many believe that the 93k number is actually an inflated number (I myself believe this also)
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Aug 21, 2011 1:34:43 GMT -5
LOL! That logic isn't only flawed since 'Dre was a face for 80% of his career, but it also ignores facts. Wrestlemania 3 isn't the most attended wrestling event. In 1995, NJPW held two shows on two days, both of which creamed WM3's attendance record: In 1995 the Japanese and Korean governments came together to hold a two-day wrestling festival for peace in Pyongyang, North Korea. The event drew 150,000 and 190,000 fans respectively to Rungrado May Day Stadium. The main event saw the only match between Inoki and Ric Flair with Inoki winning. Days before this event, Inoki and the Korean press went to the grave and birthplace of Rikidôzan and paid tribute to him. wiki.puroresu.com/Antonio_InokiBy your logic, that makes Antonio Inoki the greatest babyface ever and Ric Flair the greatest heel ever, without question? Dont forget 1987 was before factual numbers had to be released and many believe that the 93k number is actually an inflated number (I myself believe this also) I've also questioned that number. At the time, the Silverdome's max seating capacity was just over 80,000. Did they really fit 13,000 people on the floor? Maybe, maybe not.
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Post by nibs92 on Aug 21, 2011 14:53:03 GMT -5
Dont forget 1987 was before factual numbers had to be released and many believe that the 93k number is actually an inflated number (I myself believe this also) I've also questioned that number. At the time, the Silverdome's max seating capacity was just over 80,000. Did they really fit 13,000 people on the floor? Maybe, maybe not. i think the actual figure is around 78,000. still quite an impressive number!
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