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Post by mfunston20 on Mar 16, 2011 19:33:05 GMT -5
Just watched the rise and fall of wcw and i was wondering about the whole russo, hogan, and jarret angle, was that an angle or did hogan and russo really tell each other off?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2011 19:56:50 GMT -5
Just watched the rise and fall of wcw and i was wondering about the whole russo, hogan, and jarret angle, was that an angle or did hogan and russo really tell each other off? it was real man.....Hogan sued WCW afterwards I think |
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Post by PenguinDeluxe on Mar 16, 2011 19:58:25 GMT -5
Just watched the rise and fall of wcw and i was wondering about the whole russo, hogan, and jarret angle, was that an angle or did hogan and russo really tell each other off? it was real man.....Hogan sued WCW afterwards I think Yup, exactly right. It was an.... interesting time...  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2011 20:03:49 GMT -5
I remember I had stopped watching WCW in 2000 it was just on and off and it was so weird-when I missed a couple of weeks literally EVERYTHING was different than the last time you looked.
there was so many people coming and going it was unreal.
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Post by Himmy! on Mar 17, 2011 8:52:42 GMT -5
During the Jarrett days is when I started to fall away from WCW, company was just ALL over the place and by 2001 was unrecognizable compared to early 2000.
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Post by mikey1974 on Mar 17, 2011 14:12:47 GMT -5
basically,the story is this....
Russo wanted Jarrett to go over...but Hogan had creative control in his contract,so he said no...then Russo wanted a finish where Hogan won by DQ,Jarrett kept the belt,and Hogan ran off him and Steiner...
again,Hogan said no...day of the event,Hogan met with Russo and Bischoff and exercised his creative control clause and said he was going to win and leave with the belt...then it was going to be declared vacant and there'd be a tournament,where the finals would end with Hogan challenging the winner and regaining the title... Russo decided he rather just have Jarrett lay down and then declare the title vacant after Hogan left ....Hogan went along with this,though said he expected the fans to be pissed at getting ripped off...the guy who was Russo's boss was also there and approved this finish as well,so in Hogan's mind he felt Russo had no choice but to do what they had set up....
so,they went with that finish,and Hogan walked out with the title... what happened then was Russo went off on his own and did the whole public rant against Hogan and declared Jarrett still champ and made the match against Booker T....
that's what Hogan sued for,breaching his contract by going against the creative control clause he had put in it and changing the storyline he had agreed upon....
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Post by breakthewallsdown on Mar 17, 2011 14:34:01 GMT -5
wcw ftw!
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Post by jbarqu88 on Mar 18, 2011 16:13:13 GMT -5
basically,the story is this.... Russo wanted Jarrett to go over...but Hogan had creative control in his contract,so he said no...then Russo wanted a finish where Hogan won by DQ,Jarrett kept the belt,and Hogan ran off him and Steiner... again,Hogan said no...day of the event,Hogan met with Russo and Bischoff and exercised his creative control clause and said he was going to win and leave with the belt...then it was going to be declared vacant and there'd be a tournament,where the finals would end with Hogan challenging the winner and regaining the title... Russo decided he rather just have Jarrett lay down and then declare the title vacant after Hogan left ....Hogan went along with this,though said he expected the fans to be pissed at getting ripped off...the guy who was Russo's boss was also there and approved this finish as well,so in Hogan's mind he felt Russo had no choice but to do what they had set up.... so,they went with that finish,and Hogan walked out with the title... what happened then was Russo went off on his own and did the whole public rant against Hogan and declared Jarrett still champ and made the match against Booker T.... that's what Hogan sued for,breaching his contract by going against the creative control clause he had put in it and changing the storyline he had agreed upon.... In Russo's book, I think he says that Hogan knew he was going to do that promo and sued anyway. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2011 11:43:46 GMT -5
this is an interesting thread to say the least......finding out loads I didnt know.
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Post by zombiesnake on Mar 22, 2011 21:55:11 GMT -5
I remember actually buying the PPV that all happened on and it was pretty exciting to watch it all unfold live. It was WCW's best PPV since '97, and pretty much the last good event that they had. It signaled a new direction for WCW, but for the most part they really couldn't build on it.
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Post by King Shocker the Monumentous on Mar 22, 2011 22:02:51 GMT -5
I've not seen it, is it as good as ECW?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2011 13:36:39 GMT -5
I've not seen it, is it as good as ECW? its a different format man but yeah its as good(IMO)as the ECW one.different but good. |
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Post by mikey1974 on Mar 23, 2011 15:59:18 GMT -5
I've not seen it, is it as good as ECW? its a different format man but yeah its as good(IMO)as the ECW one.different but good. like he said...i think it disappointed me in the respect that a lot is glossed over,or gone over quicker than i wanted....would've like some juicy,in-depth stories about the early days of WCW in the 90's,the falling out with the NWA, the Hogan Years,the Wrestling Wars, to the fall in 2001...it's more like " First this happened,then that happened,then that happened after that" type of deal.... should've,honeslty,been like a 4 hour documentary to cover everything properly... |
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Post by Y2Breaker on Mar 24, 2011 2:03:56 GMT -5
my favorite part of that dvd was goldberg actually explaining what a tool he was lmao
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Post by LA Times on Mar 24, 2011 13:52:14 GMT -5
its a different format man but yeah its as good(IMO)as the ECW one.different but good. like he said...i think it disappointed me in the respect that a lot is glossed over,or gone over quicker than i wanted....would've like some juicy,in-depth stories about the early days of WCW in the 90's,the falling out with the NWA, the Hogan Years,the Wrestling Wars, to the fall in 2001...it's more like " First this happened,then that happened,then that happened after that" type of deal.... should've,honeslty,been like a 4 hour documentary to cover everything properly... I agree. They spent more time talking about Jim Crockett Promotions than WCW from 1999-2001. ECW has a shorter history but was given a longer documentary. The funniest thing about RAFOWCW was when Goldberg said "Everything Vince Russo was associated with...smelled like $#!+". |
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Post by T R W on Mar 25, 2011 16:42:47 GMT -5
I really enjoyed it. Especially because I remember 95% of it very vividly, especially the Crocket era stuff. Brought back a lot of great memories.
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Post by No Brokeback on Mar 25, 2011 19:18:48 GMT -5
like he said...i think it disappointed me in the respect that a lot is glossed over,or gone over quicker than i wanted....would've like some juicy,in-depth stories about the early days of WCW in the 90's,the falling out with the NWA, the Hogan Years,the Wrestling Wars, to the fall in 2001...it's more like " First this happened,then that happened,then that happened after that" type of deal.... should've,honeslty,been like a 4 hour documentary to cover everything properly... I agree. They spent more time talking about Jim Crockett Promotions than WCW from 1999-2001. ECW has a shorter history but was given a longer documentary. The funniest thing about RAFOWCW was when Goldberg said "Everything Vince Russo was associated with...smelled like $#!+". they didn't even mention sting vs NWO, the ideas behind it, why it happened or anything. |
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Post by mikey1974 on Mar 25, 2011 20:19:35 GMT -5
someone else put it best in a review when it first came out:
the documentary assumes you already know about most of what they talk about,and therefore doesn't go into much detail, figuring you already know all about it...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2011 13:40:47 GMT -5
I agree. They spent more time talking about Jim Crockett Promotions than WCW from 1999-2001. ECW has a shorter history but was given a longer documentary. The funniest thing about RAFOWCW was when Goldberg said "Everything Vince Russo was associated with...smelled like $#!+". they didn't even mention sting vs NWO, the ideas behind it, why it happened or anything. Stings return etc was criminally overlooked. |
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