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Post by the nexus on Feb 20, 2011 23:09:46 GMT -5
bought the ppv expecting cena to win but I was hoping we would have a good show with mayb a return and some great matches and we got both, really pissed Morison didn't win but did anyone think otherwise?
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Feb 20, 2011 23:10:04 GMT -5
Well, WWE blew it. If Rock wasn't going to wrestle Cena at Wrestlemania they just should have not had him come back at all. Nobody wants to see him come back and NOT wrestle, so this is just going to piss people off now. Completely untrue. Sure, I'm disappointed we're not getting Rock vs. Cena, but Rock clearly said time and time again he's not going to wrestle anymore. And I'll take any Rock over no Rock. Yeah well you're going to end up with no Rock anyway. He's not going to be on TV until Wrestlemania and then he'll be gone again.
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Post by Gazza on Feb 20, 2011 23:10:09 GMT -5
How did people not see this coming? Cena/Rock was never gonna happen (at least definitely not this year). Rock had already said he's retired and he was already announced as the guest host. That should have been your first clue. And if you're pissed about Morrison not winning, c'mon it was obvious Cena was winning. You should have been pissed weeks ago. Why do you think The Rock specifically targeted The Miz & John Cena? Because that's the main event and it was always going to be. Exactly this, Least some people on here aren't too stupid to notice.
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Post by Johnny on Feb 20, 2011 23:10:47 GMT -5
People don't think Cena vs Miz is a Wrestlemania Main event but Miz vs JoMo is? Lol. No... The Rock vs. John Cena is, though. Which would have doubled the buys for WM.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Feb 20, 2011 23:11:16 GMT -5
That Raw chamber was pretty damn good. Morrison proves yet again why he deserves to be a main event level performer.
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Post by The Undertaker on Feb 20, 2011 23:11:30 GMT -5
It's funny because all of you who are saying the PPV sucked, or the Raw EC sucked etc would have a entirely different view if Cena didn't win the chamber. Rather sad, actually. Wrong. I'd have a different reaction if it wasn't Cena/Miz. Cena winning has nothing to do with it. I've nothing against Cena, I've got a lot against the Miz who's been booked like a wet tissue.
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Post by cattlemutilation on Feb 20, 2011 23:11:34 GMT -5
Cena shocked us all and won, who would of thought. At least Morrison & Punk had a good showing. Christian should have been in the Chamber, but I'm glad hes back nevertheless. Stop.
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Post by gordon on Feb 20, 2011 23:12:08 GMT -5
Completely untrue. Sure, I'm disappointed we're not getting Rock vs. Cena, but Rock clearly said time and time again he's not going to wrestle anymore. And I'll take any Rock over no Rock. Yeah well you're going to end up with no Rock anyway. He's not going to be on TV until Wrestlemania and then he'll be gone again. You clearly just said he's going to be at WrestleMania. Last time I checked that means we're getting The Rock....
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Post by jakks1996collector on Feb 20, 2011 23:12:13 GMT -5
You all know that somehow Orton will end up being the WWE champ going into WM, right?
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Post by imperfection on Feb 20, 2011 23:12:14 GMT -5
How did you guys not see Cena winning? Just because Rock came back and cut a promo on Cena didn't mean we would actually get Cena Vs Rock. Morrison looked incredible in the match and this ppv was very enjoyable.
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Post by Gazza on Feb 20, 2011 23:13:17 GMT -5
It's funny because all of you who are saying the PPV sucked, or the Raw EC sucked etc would have a entirely different view if Cena didn't win the chamber. Rather sad, actually. Wrong. I'd have a different reaction if it wasn't Cena/Miz. Cena winning has nothing to do with it. I've nothing against Cena, I've got a lot against the Miz who's been booked like a wet tissue. Oh okay, So you'd have been more happy with Lawler/Cena?
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Feb 20, 2011 23:14:59 GMT -5
Yeah well you're going to end up with no Rock anyway. He's not going to be on TV until Wrestlemania and then he'll be gone again. You clearly just said he's going to be at WrestleMania. Last time I checked that means we're getting The Rock.... What else can he do at wrestlemania other than cut a few promos either identical or not as great as the one he cut on Monday? He's the guest host. If he does what I think he'll do, he'll come out a few times in between matches to make fun of some people and that'll be that. That's why when HBK came out after they announced him going to the Hall of Fame he didn't SAY ANYTHING because then he would just be repeating himself at the Hall of Fame.
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Post by Joey Cush on Feb 20, 2011 23:14:59 GMT -5
I heavily enjoyed the PPV. There was something about ADR/Kofi I really enjoyed, I like they are building up ADR more and more, getting him ready for WM. Not sure what they are doing with Kofi, but he did look good in the match. The SD EC was brilliant. Edge being champion starting it with Rey and finishing with him was great. Match itself was really entertaining. I was pissed they didnt put Christian in the EC and thought they were going to randomly put him in the MITB or something. Glad as they surprised us with him coming to the aid of Edge, hopefully we see a triple threat at WM, that would be sick The Tag Team Championship match wasnt anything special, didnt need to be. It was what it was supposed to be, made the Corre look good and gave them the straps. I personally would rather see Gabriel in the MITB as opposed to Nexus Vs Corre at WM. WWE Championship match was good. I loved the story, they built it up perfectly throughout the night. Did I think Lawler would win? No, but the story made it worth it. Miz winning clean was really nice, Lawler looked great. Hopefully we see Lawler Vs Cole or Dibiase at WM. RAW EC was really good too. I was confused at Punks initial elimination but thought it was great later on. Some really good spots here and there. Orton and Cena actually did more than I thought they were going to do. Morrison still amazes me, Im happy they put him in the final three, shows they care about him. Cena winning makes me happy because I personally want to see Miz Vs Cena at WresleMania. Overall, Im happy with the PPV. Great action and storyline progress. Was above my expectations and Im excited for the next few weeks. Worth the money to me.
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Post by The Undertaker on Feb 20, 2011 23:15:42 GMT -5
Wrong. I'd have a different reaction if it wasn't Cena/Miz. Cena winning has nothing to do with it. I've nothing against Cena, I've got a lot against the Miz who's been booked like a wet tissue. Oh okay, So you'd have been more happy with Lawler/Cena? No...I would've been happy if they had planned something else from a few months back...i wasn't specifically saying I would rather have Lawler/Cena. Of course i'd rather have Cena/Miz over that..
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Post by gordon on Feb 20, 2011 23:16:09 GMT -5
You clearly just said he's going to be at WrestleMania. Last time I checked that means we're getting The Rock.... What else can he do at wrestlemania other than cut a few promos either identical or not as great as the one he cut on Monday? He's the guest host. If he does what I think he'll do, he'll come out a few times in between matches to make fun of some people and that'll be that. That's why when HBK came out after they announced him going to the Hall of Fame he didn't SAY ANYTHING because then he would just be repeating himself at the Hall of Fame. The Rock is bound to get involved in the WWE title match in some way or another. 100%.
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Post by juicewinslow on Feb 20, 2011 23:16:51 GMT -5
Wow. Some of you guys don't like anything.
Rock is the host of WrestleMania.... he is not wrestling.... we already knew that. Maybe next year, in Miami.
And Miz/Cena is not predicatble. Remember Rock has much more beef with Cena than he does Miz... and Rock will PROBABLY be the ref.
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Post by Gazza on Feb 20, 2011 23:17:21 GMT -5
Oh okay, So you'd have been more happy with Lawler/Cena? No...I would've been happy if they had planned something else from a few months back...i wasn't specifically saying I would rather have Lawler/Cena. Of course i'd rather have Cena/Miz over that.. Planned something else form a few months back? Erm Okay, They started Building Miz vs Cena at The RR, not to mention the past between the two.
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Post by J12 on Feb 20, 2011 23:17:25 GMT -5
Despite being one of the most predictable Pay-Per-Views in recent memory, I enjoyed the hell out of the show tonight.
Kingston/Del Rio served its purpose as a decent enough opener that put Del Rio in the position he needed to be in going into Wrestlemania. The outcome was obvious, but I'm glad that Kingston at least looked like he had a fighting chance. Not a great match by any means, but it got the job done.
Smackdown Elimination Chamber was excellent. It's funny, as everyone was coming down I realized how uninterested I was in the match because of the participants. Replacing Dolph Ziggler, one of the brightest and talented up and comers in the company right now, with The Big Show was laughable, but it made sense. I was pleasantly surprised to be completely enthralled throughout nearly the entire match. Edge and Mysterio looked fantastic and they have incredible chemistry with each other that is rare these days. Another thing that really stood out to me in this match was Drew McIntyre. I've never been a big supporter of him, and while he's improved a lot in the last year, I still haven't viewed him as really being worth my time. Tonight was a different story. I loved the mean streak and the fact that they at least put him over as a threat. He looked great in the match and I would have preferred that he outlasted Kane, who has absolutely nothing going for him right now.
Post match was excellent, it brought Del Rio into the picture and established a reason for he and Edge to really be going at it, and introduced the possibility for a triple threat match, which I think is much more sellable than just Edge/Del Rio one on one. In fact, I'd love to see them throw Ziggler into that picture too, because with the effort he's been putting in since being thrusted into the spotlight, he deserves a bright light Wrestlemania moment.
Trish Stratus/Booker T segment was cringe worthy, but I didn't care. I love Trish too much to be anything but excited with the fact that she's going to be back on my TV in any capacity whatsoever.
I took a bathroom/snack break for the majority of the Tag Title match. I find Santino and Kozlov to be boring, and I never thought they should be Tag champions. They're great in the comedic role, which is where they should stay. Very happy to see Slater and Gabriel take the belts, hopefully the reign will mean something this time around. The Corre is incredibly weak and virtually pointless, so hopefully this gives them a little bit of life.
Vickie segment was predictable but necessary. Great to see Trish get involved again and I hope that this leads to some form of match with LayCool at Wrestlemania. I love what WWE has done with Michelle and Layla and I'd love to see them on the grandest stage of them all with arguably the greatest Diva of all time.
WWE Championship match was what it should have been, so I can't complain. The Miz needed a clean win and he got it. My only issue was that it should have been decisive. It was Lawler's match nearly the entire time, with The Miz just pulling it off at the last minute. I could complain, but the clean win is enough to keep me content. Cole was hysterical throughout this match.
The Raw Elimination Chamber was solid. Very good even, but I don't think it quite lived up to Smackdown's, with the exception of Morrison's performance. The Punk elimination at the beginning was a neat idea. It was fresh, simple, and it worked. Punk then going on to eliminate Orton was one of the best moments of the match for me. A match between the two at Mania is an absolute lock now, if it wasn't already. The final three was bittersweet, as I was so thrilled by Morrison's performance but knew in my heart he wouldn't win.
The problem with the match, for me, was the fact that my better judgment absolutely knew that Cena was going to win. My heart, however, was somehow hoping that Morrison pulled it off. Not only because I think it's Morrison's time to shine, but because that would more or less all but guarantee The Rock vs. John Cena.
But I knew better, and everyone else should have as well. The Rock said he wasn't going to wrestle, and it's very likely that he meant it. To believe anything else was really just to give yourself false hope. I'm just glad they gave Morrison one hell of a performance.
My question now, regarding Morrison, is when do they let him take it to the next level? He's an absolute star in every mach he's in, and WWE is booking him that way. He's thrilling, exciting, incredibly over, and has all the makings of a new-era main eventer, but when are they going to let him get over that hump?
As far as Cena/Miz goes, we all saw it coming, and I think WWE wants us to believe that this is the match everyone wants to see. This isn't the Miz/Cena feud of two years ago that was nothing more than a squash, they're selling this as the match to see. Whether it becomes what they want it to will depend entirely on what they're able to do build wise in the coming weeks, and how they plan to incorporate The Rock into the scenario.
Just a couple of side notes, I'm having a terrible hard time with Booker T on commentary, but I keep telling myself it's simply due to his inexperience. Several times tonight, he ruined an elimination for me by his demeanor alone. If a person was going to kick out, he'd say, "he's out, there's no way he's kicking out of that". If the person was about to be pinned, he said, "it ain't over, he's not done yet", simply to set himself up to be surprised. Hopefully it's something he gets over.
Secondly, and most importantly, Oakland had to be one of the worst WWE crowds I've ever had the displeasure of listening to. They were listless and lackadaisical the entire night, save a few Cena and Anti-Cena chants at the end. I don't know if WWE takes stock in that sort of thing, but if they do, I can't imagine they're going to be on the preferred list of cities to televise from.
Overall, a fun night, predictable as expected, but it served its purpose and brought us one step closer to Wrestlemania.
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Post by DMO™ on Feb 20, 2011 23:18:19 GMT -5
if he isn't gonna wrestle, then I really don't give a damn A Cool moment for sure, but in the long run... as far as Mania is concerned, it'll really be nothing special without an actual match from him Did everyone forget that The Rock has stated numerous times that he won't wrestle again? there is no reason to say that it's a letdown if it wasn't even planned to happen.
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Post by Johnny on Feb 20, 2011 23:19:42 GMT -5
It's funny because all of you who are saying the PPV sucked, or the Raw EC sucked etc would have a entirely different view if Cena didn't win the chamber. Rather sad, actually. The ending of a match can TOTALLY change my view on it overall. Just like a movie. It can be all great until the end, and if that's anticlimactic or predictable, how is it unreasonable or "sad" to hate/dislike the match?
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