cyantist
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Post by cyantist on Sept 9, 2010 12:56:54 GMT -5
I just want to know everyones input on this. Mine is that it was once again a case of Nash influencing the booking to make him look good and that it wasn't the right time to end it. The streak wasn't stale yet and Goldberg was still extremely over
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Post by CMPunkSavior on Sept 9, 2010 13:17:49 GMT -5
Definitely wasn't stale yet and Nash was probably the last guy next to Hogan who needed it for himself. Should've gone to someone else to help build them as credible star and push them to the moon. DDP would've been interesting but he got to that point without it so I'm not sure who else would be a good choice...
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Post by LeighD on Sept 9, 2010 13:30:03 GMT -5
In my eyes, no Goldberg's streak wasn't ready to end. Nash wouldn't have been in my top 5 guys to end the streak and the "Finger-poke of doom" just made ending the streak absolutely pointless.
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Post by figurecollector on Sept 9, 2010 14:03:23 GMT -5
It was not time for it to end and when he did lose, it should have been clean, IMO.
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Post by tnafan17: The Total Package on Sept 9, 2010 17:44:23 GMT -5
Wrong time IMO as well. Nash definitely wouldn't have been the guy I would have picked to end it either.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2010 18:36:54 GMT -5
Absolutely not, like you guys have said, and especially the way that it was done was just awful, and ended up hurting Goldberg's aura.
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Post by slappy on Sept 9, 2010 22:30:20 GMT -5
Yes it was the right time. He was going on 170 some wins. Why does someone need to win that much? They've already proven to be dominate.
When would have been the right time to end it? When he got to 200 wins? 300? When do we say enough?
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Post by DTP. on Sept 9, 2010 23:06:09 GMT -5
Yes and no. The finish they had with it being dirty with Hall's outside interference was smart and should've been the way to go out. But it was pretty soon; the streak was dragging in fans yet it did nothing for anybody but Goldberg. Sooner or later it'd get stale. Around this time it did through my eyes.
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Post by Jimmy on Sept 9, 2010 23:08:14 GMT -5
Yes it was the right time. He was going on 170 some wins. Why does someone need to win that much? They've already proven to be dominate. When would have been the right time to end it? When he got to 200 wins? 300? When do we say enough? When it stopped being over, and it was massively over. Think of all of the PPV matches they could have had while Goldberg was champion. Goldberg vs. Flair, Goldberg vs. Savage, Goldberg vs. Piper all could have drawn in 1998. Hell Goldberg vs. Hart would have drawn huge and while they did do it, by that time the buyrates and ratings were in the toilet. They didn't even do Goldberg vs. Sting in PPV until after Goldberg lost the strap! The best path would have been to have brought in another new guy, like say Sean O'Haire, and have him also go undefeated to lead up to the inevitable clash at Starrcade. |
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Post by slappy on Sept 9, 2010 23:30:16 GMT -5
Yes it was the right time. He was going on 170 some wins. Why does someone need to win that much? They've already proven to be dominate. When would have been the right time to end it? When he got to 200 wins? 300? When do we say enough? When it stopped being over, and it was massively over. Think of all of the PPV matches they could have had while Goldberg was champion. Goldberg vs. Flair, Goldberg vs. Savage, Goldberg vs. Piper all could have drawn in 1998. Hell Goldberg vs. Hart would have drawn huge and while they did do it, by that time the buyrates and ratings were in the toilet. They didn't even do Goldberg vs. Sting in PPV until after Goldberg lost the strap! The best path would have been to have brought in another new guy, like say Sean O'Haire, and have him also go undefeated to lead up to the inevitable clash at Starrcade. You want to see over? Watch the crowd's reaction to Nash winning the match. They went nuts, they popped like crazy. |
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Post by He Hate Me on Sept 10, 2010 0:08:43 GMT -5
Nash and the Wolfpac were so over at this point. WCW did drop the ball however by not letting Nash and Hall be faces here. At this point a face team of Hall and Nash that didn't associate with any of the other faces and won by any means necessary, even if it meant cheating was exactly what the fans wanted.
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Post by carly1988 on Sept 10, 2010 9:13:57 GMT -5
The streak ended and so did any momentum Goldberg had. Besides most people dont realize he lost to half the Guerrero family on WorldWide before his Nitro debut.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2010 9:42:03 GMT -5
I think the way it was ended was ok-the timing and maner were fine.it left the hottest babyface fuming and seeking revenge-which is always good.........and didnt hurt him. it was what happened the next night that started the decline of WCW-the  in Fingerpoke of Doom. If Goldberg had lost and had been able to feud with the new powerhouse nWo without the Fingerpoke it would have been dynamite........but he wasny because of injury(punching out the car window) and after the Fingerpoke foks stayed away in droves |
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Post by DTP. on Sept 10, 2010 10:55:23 GMT -5
Nash and the Wolfpac were so over at this point. WCW did drop the ball however by not letting Nash and Hall be faces here. At this point a face team of Hall and Nash that didn't associate with any of the other faces and won by any means necessary, even if it meant cheating was exactly what the fans wanted. Actually, Hall was a heel at the time hinting a reunion with Nash the babyface. It all came to a head when Nash came out accompanied by Hall on Jan 4th before his heel turn in the Fingerpoke. |
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Post by cjskittles4 on Sept 10, 2010 15:51:38 GMT -5
Well it certainly wasn't time, but if it did end...who really would've been the right person to do it?
I heard Hogan was originally gonna end the streak as part of the agreement to lose to Goldberg so better for Nash to do it than Hogan I guess...
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Post by He Hate Me on Sept 10, 2010 18:01:54 GMT -5
Nash and the Wolfpac were so over at this point. WCW did drop the ball however by not letting Nash and Hall be faces here. At this point a face team of Hall and Nash that didn't associate with any of the other faces and won by any means necessary, even if it meant cheating was exactly what the fans wanted. Actually, Hall was a heel at the time hinting a reunion with Nash the babyface. It all came to a head when Nash came out accompanied by Hall on Jan 4th before his heel turn in the Fingerpoke. Hall got a crazy pop for using the stun gun on Goldberg and a few minutes later you dont see it but you can hear the stun gun go off again and the crowd popped over that too. Up until that point Hall was a heel but in those 5 minutes the fans were definitely behing him and Nash. You are correct though Hall never technically was a face in this period. |
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Post by johnnypoopypants on Sept 11, 2010 16:35:51 GMT -5
Yes it was the right time. He was going on 170 some wins. Why does someone need to win that much? They've already proven to be dominate. When would have been the right time to end it? When he got to 200 wins? 300? When do we say enough? The actual "number" of wins they gave was greatly exaggerated. |
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Post by Gangrel-Brood on Sept 11, 2010 16:37:04 GMT -5
Yes it was the right time. He was going on 170 some wins. Why does someone need to win that much? They've already proven to be dominate. When would have been the right time to end it? When he got to 200 wins? 300? When do we say enough? Considering a third of the wins were fictitious, it would've only taken a couple more months before it reached 300. |
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Post by cyantist on Sept 13, 2010 12:23:04 GMT -5
I never ing got that. Nash and the nWo vs wolfpac was huge. Then they started swapping crapover and suddenly wolfpac stopped being all faces when Hall and Nash went to the wolfpac and you honestly didn't know who was what. |
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Post by He Hate Me on Sept 14, 2010 14:50:18 GMT -5
I never ing got that. Nash and the nWo vs wolfpac was huge. Then they started swapping excrement over and suddenly wolfpac stopped being all faces when Hall and Nash went to the wolfpac and you honestly didn't know who was what. Well the original wolfpac (aside from Nash, Hall and Waltman) ended up being Nash, Savage, Sting, Luger and Konnan. Hennig and Rude were in there briefly but jumped back to the white and black. Hall kinda joined the night of "the fingerpoke of doom" and then after that all hell broke loose and they formed nWo elite, still wearing the wolfpack colors, made up of Hogan, Nash, Hall, Luger, Steiner, Bagwell and I believe Konnan was with them briefly until they kicked him out. Disco Inferno ended up affiliated with them too somehow. |
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