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Post by slappy on Aug 18, 2010 0:01:18 GMT -5
I'm glad he did.
He ended Goldberg's streak, which was great
And even though I hate Hogan, being a part of the Finger Poke of Doom was fantastic.
What if there wasn't an NWO? WCW may never have been as popular as it got, Vince would have dominated because there wouldn't have been much competition. We wouldn't have then gotten the Alliance angle. No NWO for Shawn Michaels to return to.
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Aug 18, 2010 1:13:21 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong. I'm glad Nash left the WWF. It opened the door for Shawn Michaels to be the WWF's centerpiece. Had Nash not left, I'm convinced that Diesel would have held the WWF title for the majority of '96 and '97. Vince was ready to throw everything into promoting Diesel.
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Post by gordon on Aug 18, 2010 1:19:47 GMT -5
I'm glad he did. He ended Goldberg's streak, which was great And even though I hate Hogan, being a part of the Finger Poke of Doom was fantastic. What if there wasn't an NWO? WCW may never have been as popular as it got, Vince would have dominated because there wouldn't have been much competition. We wouldn't have then gotten the Alliance angle. No NWO for Shawn Michaels to return to. Probably no Attitude Era either. |
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Post by slappy on Aug 18, 2010 1:21:32 GMT -5
I'm glad he did. He ended Goldberg's streak, which was great And even though I hate Hogan, being a part of the Finger Poke of Doom was fantastic. What if there wasn't an NWO? WCW may never have been as popular as it got, Vince would have dominated because there wouldn't have been much competition. We wouldn't have then gotten the Alliance angle. No NWO for Shawn Michaels to return to. Probably no Attitude Era either. That's very well likely. |
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Post by gordon on Aug 18, 2010 1:26:56 GMT -5
Probably no Attitude Era either. That's very well likely. It's definitely possible there wouldn't have been an Attitude Era. The main reason WWF changed was because they were being beaten badly by WCW, mainly due to the popularity of the nWo, which if Nash wasn't a member, may not have existed. |
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Post by slappy on Aug 18, 2010 1:52:06 GMT -5
It's definitely possible there wouldn't have been an Attitude Era. The main reason WWF changed was because they were being beaten badly by WCW, mainly due to the popularity of the nWo, which if Nash wasn't a member, may not have existed. If Nash didn't leave, Hall might not have left either. Bret Hart wouldn't have been screwed. Vince wouldn't have become one of the biggest heels ever. Stone Cold wouldn't have broken out into the biggest star of the company. Owen Hart might be alive. |
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Post by gordon on Aug 18, 2010 2:00:47 GMT -5
It's definitely possible there wouldn't have been an Attitude Era. The main reason WWF changed was because they were being beaten badly by WCW, mainly due to the popularity of the nWo, which if Nash wasn't a member, may not have existed. If Nash didn't leave, Hall might not have left either. Bret Hart wouldn't have been screwed. Vince wouldn't have become one of the biggest heels ever. Stone Cold wouldn't have broken out into the biggest star of the company. Owen Hart might be alive. I think either way Bret probably would have left the WWF. Say if Hall & Nash didn't leave the WWF, WCW wouldn't be laying the smackdown on the WWF and the Federation would be doing better business. Vince would be able to honour his contract with Bret, and Bret would've stayed right? Maybe not, because Bret always had issues with The Kliq and if Nash & Hall were still around they could've forced Bret out of the company. WCW were still doing good enough business that they could have given Bret a good deal, so it's a big maybe on whether Bret would've left the WWF. |
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Post by slappy on Aug 18, 2010 2:15:50 GMT -5
If Nash didn't leave, Hall might not have left either. Bret Hart wouldn't have been screwed. Vince wouldn't have become one of the biggest heels ever. Stone Cold wouldn't have broken out into the biggest star of the company. Owen Hart might be alive. I think either way Bret probably would have left the WWF. Say if Hall & Nash didn't leave the WWF, WCW wouldn't be laying the smackdown on the WWF and the Federation would be doing better business. Vince would be able to honour his contract with Bret, and Bret would've stayed right? Maybe not, because Bret always had issues with The Kliq and if Nash & Hall were still around they could've forced Bret out of the company. WCW were still doing good enough business that they could have given Bret a good deal, so it's a big maybe on whether Bret would've left the WWF. He may have left for WCW, but I don't think he would have left the WWF like he did. Plus with Hogan in WCW, he probably still would have played second fiddle to him. Or third or fourth, just interchanging Flair, Sting, Hogan and Hart. |
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Post by OmegaGaijin on Aug 18, 2010 2:19:08 GMT -5
He made the right choice,but as a fan,i would have liked to have stayed.
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Post by LeighD on Aug 18, 2010 8:56:34 GMT -5
Nash had ran his course in WWF in my opinion, he held all titles at that time in a calender year. He also had been heel to No.1 babyface to No.1 heel in 12 month period also. Had feuded with major players Shawn (both as heel & face), Bret & Taker also. Only place to go was down the card I feel foir Big D. Hall on the other hand, had plenty still to offer, not only was he better in the ring than Nash but he hadn't played heel in 3 years (a new heel Razor would have been awesome), never really been in the World title picture during WWF career so still had a ladder to climb (pun) and had potential feuds with Taker, Bret & a face HBK (as a heel Razor) to still play out. Should have offered Hall the big bucks to stay and dumped Diesel from a business point of view. Nash in the WWF during '96, I think he would've been okay for another year but running stale after that. Nash's heel turn would've put him in a pond with a lot of heels (Vader, Bulldog, Austin, Goldust, Mankind, etc). Had he stayed I think WWF could've extended his feud with the Undertaker another month or two, then have his program with HBK kick in. Maybe even a feud with the Ultimate Warrior. Kind of interesting to think about Hall on the other hand I agree with you, had a LOT of potential for moving up the ranks. I think both as a heel or face, Razor would've been set for a while. As a face, he had guys like Vader, Bulldog, Goldust, Austin, and Nash (had he stayed too). As a heel, feuds with Undertaker, HBK, Sid, Warrior, would be refreshing. I'm pretty sure Hall was on the path to winning the WWF title. He really had no where else to go but up at that stage of his WWF career. |
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Post by Raine on Aug 18, 2010 10:30:51 GMT -5
Razor for sure would have won the WWF Title at some point if he had stayed with the WWF in 1996, just a shame that the almighty $ was Scott Hall's god. A heel Razor Ramon as a WWF champ would have been great.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2010 17:16:45 GMT -5
dunno about Hall moving up......he was meant to defeat Goldust for the IC strap at WM12 but failed a drug test and was suspended........I think Vinnie was gonna push him down the card to be honest.
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Post by Mr. Orange on Aug 19, 2010 0:06:52 GMT -5
Nash was crucial in making the wrestling business what it is today. He's also an integral part of why WCW died.
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Post by marino13 on Aug 19, 2010 17:28:47 GMT -5
I loved Nash in WWE back then. I would like for him to have stayed. But it tough to say if it was the right decision or not.
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Aug 20, 2010 3:04:18 GMT -5
More money, fewer dates, a main part of on of the biggest angles in wrestling history...
I don't think he made a mistake at all. I will say it annoys me how lazy he got though. He was never the best wrestler, but he did some good stuff in WWE and the first year in WCW. After that, nothing. He has worked a harder again in TNA, but he's pretty banged up.
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Post by LeighD on Aug 21, 2010 5:25:04 GMT -5
dunno about Hall moving up......he was meant to defeat Goldust for the IC strap at WM12 but failed a drug test and was suspended........I think Vinnie was gonna push him down the card to be honest. I just remembered reading a little piece in a WWF magazine about the year 1996 in predictions. It said Razor by the year end would be climbing the ladder for the BIG gold ring or something like that. Now I'm not saying that it was telling us, but I just got the feel, Ramon was headed for a main-event push. |
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Post by K5 on Aug 24, 2010 12:54:59 GMT -5
i'd say he made the right choice, the nwo is still one of most renowned things in wrestling ever. he made himself legendary.
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Post by sonofanarchy on Aug 24, 2010 13:00:24 GMT -5
dunno about Hall moving up......he was meant to defeat Goldust for the IC strap at WM12 but failed a drug test and was suspended........I think Vinnie was gonna push him down the card to be honest. I just remembered reading a little piece in a WWF magazine about the year 1996 in predictions. It said Razor by the year end would be climbing the ladder for the BIG gold ring or something like that. Now I'm not saying that it was telling us, but I just got the feel, Ramon was headed for a main-event push. A lot of those were true, or meant to be true barring injury...this one I think was one that would have went down. |
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Post by greenjack1992 on Aug 24, 2010 19:12:04 GMT -5
I don't think Vince would have kept him around when he started with the injuries to be honest.
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Post by specterkev on Aug 30, 2010 6:07:52 GMT -5
glad he jumped WCW
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