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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 13, 2010 18:53:34 GMT -5
I'm gonna bust out a few notes here: 1. CM Showstopper, Batista is still on SmackDown. Maybe you should get your facts straight. 2. missedgehead, the world doesn't end just because Edge didn't return straight into a World title. He got injured and that sucks, but that doesn't automatically mean he should get the World title on his return. Edge has been in the world title picture consistently since 2006. Almost every PPV he's been on since then has been in a championship match. There's plenty of time for Edge to reach double digits and I'm certain he will. But just because Edge is getting the world title right now doesn't mean you should throw a hissyfit. 3. willbuh and rkokixas, you have to admit Orton getting the title shot doesn't make as much sense as Jericho or Edge getting the shot. WWE could have waited until after the Draft to have Orton vs Swagger. Also willbuh, if Orton did win the title that doesn't neccessarily mean he would join SmackDown. Look at Batista, he beat Cena for the title and is still technically a SmackDown superstar. Sadly, another person who doesnt watch. They announced that Batista moved to RAW after he had won the title. WWE.com having Batista on the Smackdown page, I am assuming is what you are basing this off of, is irrelevant. The last tv mention was on RAW and it stated that Batista was on RAW. Until they say something different.....I'll stick with that. On a side note, Batista does not even appear on Smackdown.
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Post by joker123 on Apr 13, 2010 19:43:02 GMT -5
I'm gonna bust out a few notes here: 1. CM Showstopper, Batista is still on SmackDown. Maybe you should get your facts straight. 2. missedgehead, the world doesn't end just because Edge didn't return straight into a World title. He got injured and that sucks, but that doesn't automatically mean he should get the World title on his return. Edge has been in the world title picture consistently since 2006. Almost every PPV he's been on since then has been in a championship match. There's plenty of time for Edge to reach double digits and I'm certain he will. But just because Edge is getting the world title right now doesn't mean you should throw a hissyfit. 3. willbuh and rkokixas, you have to admit Orton getting the title shot doesn't make as much sense as Jericho or Edge getting the shot. WWE could have waited until after the Draft to have Orton vs Swagger. Also willbuh, if Orton did win the title that doesn't neccessarily mean he would join SmackDown. Look at Batista, he beat Cena for the title and is still technically a SmackDown superstar. Sadly, another person who doesnt watch. They announced that Batista moved to RAW after he had won the title. WWE.com having Batista on the Smackdown page, I am assuming is what you are basing this off of, is irrelevant. The last tv mention was on RAW and it stated that Batista was on RAW. Until they say something different.....I'll stick with that. On a side note, Batista does not even appear on Smackdown. First of all, don't try and tell me I don't watch. Second of all, you keep saying they announced it, but I don't recall them announcing it. Find a piece of evidence and I'll concede I was wrong and you was right. It seems to me this is like the other day when you were pulling facts out of your ass without doing the research (the Jim Ross/Johnny Ace thread). So, I'll take your advice, I'll stick with Batista being on SmackDown until they say otherwise. P.S. Whether Batista has been appearing on SmackDown or not is irrelevant. He is still a SmackDown guy until I see otherwise.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 13, 2010 21:35:46 GMT -5
Sadly, another person who doesnt watch. They announced that Batista moved to RAW after he had won the title. WWE.com having Batista on the Smackdown page, I am assuming is what you are basing this off of, is irrelevant. The last tv mention was on RAW and it stated that Batista was on RAW. Until they say something different.....I'll stick with that. On a side note, Batista does not even appear on Smackdown. First of all, don't try and tell me I don't watch. Second of all, you keep saying they announced it, but I don't recall them announcing it. Find a piece of evidence and I'll concede I was wrong and you was right. It seems to me this is like the other day when you were pulling facts out of your ass without doing the research (the Jim Ross/Johnny Ace thread). So, I'll take your advice, I'll stick with Batista being on SmackDown until they say otherwise. P.S. Whether Batista has been appearing on SmackDown or not is irrelevant. He is still a SmackDown guy until I see otherwise. Stick with your love fest for Jim Ross and inaccurate facts.
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Post by joker123 on Apr 13, 2010 22:07:08 GMT -5
First of all, don't try and tell me I don't watch. Second of all, you keep saying they announced it, but I don't recall them announcing it. Find a piece of evidence and I'll concede I was wrong and you was right. It seems to me this is like the other day when you were pulling facts out of your ass without doing the research (the Jim Ross/Johnny Ace thread). So, I'll take your advice, I'll stick with Batista being on SmackDown until they say otherwise. P.S. Whether Batista has been appearing on SmackDown or not is irrelevant. He is still a SmackDown guy until I see otherwise. Stick with your love fest for Jim Ross and inaccurate facts. And you stick with your love fest for Johnny Ace and pulling things out your ass.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 13, 2010 22:14:14 GMT -5
Stick with your love fest for Jim Ross and inaccurate facts. And you stick with your love fest for Johnny Ace and pulling things out your ass. Hmmm....I did not realize facts come out of my ass. Interesting. I'll take a look the next time I squat. As far as Ace goes....I have no love fest for him. I could care less about Johnny Ace. Outside of being a Dynmaic Dude and skateboarding to the ring......who cares. The FACT is Jim Ross did not discover Edge, Christian or the Hardys.
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Post by joker123 on Apr 13, 2010 23:18:06 GMT -5
And you stick with your love fest for Johnny Ace and pulling things out your ass. Hmmm....I did not realize facts come out of my ass. Interesting. I'll take a look the next time I squat. As far as Ace goes....I have no love fest for him. I could care less about Johnny Ace. Outside of being a Dynmaic Dude and skateboarding to the ring......who cares. The FACT is Jim Ross did not discover Edge, Christian or the Hardys. Did I say your ass? Sorry, I meant your mouth. I get confused because crap keeps coming out of both. I know you don't have a love fest for Johnny Ace. I was trying to turn a phrase after you idiotically claimed I had a love fest for Jim Ross. No, I just expect you to get your facts straight when making points about people. Apparently you don't know how to do that. And you're right, JR didn't discover Edge, Christian or the Hardys. But I never claimed he did. You made out like all Jim Ross had signed to WWE were nobodies. I don't think Steve Austin, Mick Foley & Jack Swagger are anybody to scoff at.
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Post by wabarrett on Apr 14, 2010 6:33:42 GMT -5
I'm gonna bust out a few notes here: 1. CM Showstopper, Batista is still on SmackDown. Maybe you should get your facts straight. 2. missedgehead, the world doesn't end just because Edge didn't return straight into a World title. He got injured and that sucks, but that doesn't automatically mean he should get the World title on his return. Edge has been in the world title picture consistently since 2006. Almost every PPV he's been on since then has been in a championship match. There's plenty of time for Edge to reach double digits and I'm certain he will. But just because Edge is getting the world title right now doesn't mean you should throw a hissyfit. 3. willbuh and rkokixas, you have to admit Orton getting the title shot doesn't make as much sense as Jericho or Edge getting the shot. WWE could have waited until after the Draft to have Orton vs Swagger. Also willbuh, if Orton did win the title that doesn't neccessarily mean he would join SmackDown. Look at Batista, he beat Cena for the title and is still technically a SmackDown superstar. Sadly, another person who doesnt watch. They announced that Batista moved to RAW after he had won the title. Umm, if Batista did indeed move to RAW after winning the title, then the same could easily happen with Orton if he beats Swagger. Therefore, Teddy Long would not be losing out, he'd be gaining a superstar is a RAW superstar beats SmackDown's champion. According to your logic anyway. However I'm still fairly sure Batista is just a SmackDown superstar who has been on RAW for the last two months. I haven't seen nor heard any confirmation of him being a RAW superstar. Oh and Cam, I agree completely with point 2.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 14, 2010 14:58:55 GMT -5
Hmmm....I did not realize facts come out of my ass. Interesting. I'll take a look the next time I squat. As far as Ace goes....I have no love fest for him. I could care less about Johnny Ace. Outside of being a Dynmaic Dude and skateboarding to the ring......who cares. The FACT is Jim Ross did not discover Edge, Christian or the Hardys. Did I say your ass? Sorry, I meant your mouth. I get confused because crap keeps coming out of both. I know you don't have a love fest for Johnny Ace. I was trying to turn a phrase after you idiotically claimed I had a love fest for Jim Ross. No, I just expect you to get your facts straight when making points about people. Apparently you don't know how to do that. And you're right, JR didn't discover Edge, Christian or the Hardys. But I never claimed he did. You made out like all Jim Ross had signed to WWE were nobodies. I don't think Steve Austin, Mick Foley & Jack Swagger are anybody to scoff at. Oh ha ha! You funny man. I didnt bring up Jim Ross, you did. Austin and Foley were great, no doubt. But Swagger? Exactly my point.....NOT a good signing. Guy is green and doesnt sell. Yeah, fantastic signing.
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Post by joker123 on Apr 14, 2010 18:25:01 GMT -5
Did I say your ass? Sorry, I meant your mouth. I get confused because crap keeps coming out of both. I know you don't have a love fest for Johnny Ace. I was trying to turn a phrase after you idiotically claimed I had a love fest for Jim Ross. No, I just expect you to get your facts straight when making points about people. Apparently you don't know how to do that. And you're right, JR didn't discover Edge, Christian or the Hardys. But I never claimed he did. You made out like all Jim Ross had signed to WWE were nobodies. I don't think Steve Austin, Mick Foley & Jack Swagger are anybody to scoff at. Oh ha ha! You funny man. I didnt bring up Jim Ross, you did. Austin and Foley were great, no doubt. But Swagger? Exactly my point.....NOT a good signing. Guy is green and doesnt sell. Yeah, fantastic signing. Swagger's not a good signing? He's a great wrestler, has lots of charisma, unlimited potential and I think you're forgetting he's currently the World Heavyweight Champion. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 14, 2010 18:38:15 GMT -5
Oh ha ha! You funny man. I didnt bring up Jim Ross, you did. Austin and Foley were great, no doubt. But Swagger? Exactly my point.....NOT a good signing. Guy is green and doesnt sell. Yeah, fantastic signing. Swagger's not a good signing? He's a great wrestler, has lots of charisma, unlimited potential and I think you're forgetting he's currently the World Heavyweight Champion. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. He's a great amateur wrestler. Sorry....dont watch that kind of wrestling. Lots of charisma? If by charisma you mean an annoying LIIIISSSSSPPPPP....then yeah. And current world champion? Yup, you're right. But then again David Arquette is a former World Champion....so why not Swagger?
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Post by joker123 on Apr 14, 2010 20:02:11 GMT -5
Swagger's not a good signing? He's a great wrestler, has lots of charisma, unlimited potential and I think you're forgetting he's currently the World Heavyweight Champion. Put that in your pipe and smoke it. He's a great amateur wrestler. Sorry....dont watch that kind of wrestling. Lots of charisma? If by charisma you mean an annoying LIIIISSSSSPPPPP....then yeah. And current world champion? Yup, you're right. But then again David Arquette is a former World Champion....so why not Swagger? Great amateur wrestling skills carry over into professional wrestling. I guess Kurt Angle sucks too huh? And yeah, he does have lots of charisma. The speech impedement is irrelevant (that's a mouthful), he has good mic skills and comes to the ring full of character. The difference between Swagger being World champ and Arquette being World champ is that Arquette was WCW Champion, a company that also gave the belt to Vince Russo. The World Heavyweight Championship actually means something. Vince McMahon obviously sees something in Swagger, even if you don't. That's why he's a multi-millionaire who runs the No.1 wrestling company and you're some loser who stalks the wrestlers.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 14, 2010 21:51:03 GMT -5
He's a great amateur wrestler. Sorry....dont watch that kind of wrestling. Lots of charisma? If by charisma you mean an annoying LIIIISSSSSPPPPP....then yeah. And current world champion? Yup, you're right. But then again David Arquette is a former World Champion....so why not Swagger? Great amateur wrestling skills carry over into professional wrestling. I guess Kurt Angle sucks too huh? And yeah, he does have lots of charisma. The speech impedement is irrelevant (that's a mouthful), he has good mic skills and comes to the ring full of character. The difference between Swagger being World champ and Arquette being World champ is that Arquette was WCW Champion, a company that also gave the belt to Vince Russo. The World Heavyweight Championship actually means something. Vince McMahon obviously sees something in Swagger, even if you don't. That's why he's a multi-millionaire who runs the No.1 wrestling company and you're some loser who stalks the wrestlers. Please dont put words in my mouth. We are not talking Angle. We are talking Swagger. Angle can sell. He has ZERO charisma. Swagger is but an internet sensation. His speech impediment is not irrelevant. If it was, people wouldnt cite it as a hindrance. He has poor mic. skills and does very little with the stick. Dont cite WCW and what they do. Vince McMahon was both WWE and ECW champion at one time. As far as Vince and what he sees...its funny about 2 months ago, Swagger was losing on Raw to Santino. Yeah....real credible. I'm not going to warn you again about the name calling. Want to have a debate? Fine. Want to make your point? Fine. But the name calling will only cause a fight and cause the thread to be shut down. So please stop.
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Post by joker123 on Apr 14, 2010 22:21:02 GMT -5
Great amateur wrestling skills carry over into professional wrestling. I guess Kurt Angle sucks too huh? And yeah, he does have lots of charisma. The speech impedement is irrelevant (that's a mouthful), he has good mic skills and comes to the ring full of character. The difference between Swagger being World champ and Arquette being World champ is that Arquette was WCW Champion, a company that also gave the belt to Vince Russo. The World Heavyweight Championship actually means something. Vince McMahon obviously sees something in Swagger, even if you don't. That's why he's a multi-millionaire who runs the No.1 wrestling company and you're some loser who stalks the wrestlers. Please dont put words in my mouth. We are not talking Angle. We are talking Swagger. Angle can sell. He has ZERO charisma. Swagger is but an internet sensation. His speech impediment is not irrelevant. If it was, people wouldnt cite it as a hindrance. He has poor mic. skills and does very little with the stick. Dont cite WCW and what they do. Vince McMahon was both WWE and ECW champion at one time. As far as Vince and what he sees...its funny about 2 months ago, Swagger was losing on Raw to Santino. Yeah....real credible. I'm not going to warn you again about the name calling. Want to have a debate? Fine. Want to make your point? Fine. But the name calling will only cause a fight and cause the thread to be shut down. So please stop. Swagger can sell. Since when could he not sell? You think Swagger has zero charisma, but I'm sure most people with brains would beg to differ. I meant his speech impediment doesn't effect his mic skills or charisma, his lisp is just used as a cheap joke on television. Hypocrite thy name is CM Showstopper. You say don't cite WCW, but that's exactly what you did when comparing Arquette to Swagger. It's not the same. And just because Swagger lost to Santino once on Raw a few months ago doesn't mean he isn't a great wrestler. HHH lost to the Brooklyn Brawler once, does that matter? As for the name calling, you didn't warn me the first time. This is the first "warning" you've given me. Once again, you aren't getting your facts straight.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 14, 2010 22:59:38 GMT -5
Please dont put words in my mouth. We are not talking Angle. We are talking Swagger. Angle can sell. He has ZERO charisma. Swagger is but an internet sensation. His speech impediment is not irrelevant. If it was, people wouldnt cite it as a hindrance. He has poor mic. skills and does very little with the stick. Dont cite WCW and what they do. Vince McMahon was both WWE and ECW champion at one time. As far as Vince and what he sees...its funny about 2 months ago, Swagger was losing on Raw to Santino. Yeah....real credible. I'm not going to warn you again about the name calling. Want to have a debate? Fine. Want to make your point? Fine. But the name calling will only cause a fight and cause the thread to be shut down. So please stop. Swagger can sell. Since when could he not sell? You think Swagger has zero charisma, but I'm sure most people with brains would beg to differ. I meant his speech impediment doesn't effect his mic skills or charisma, his lisp is just used as a cheap joke on television. Hypocrite thy name is CM Showstopper. You say don't cite WCW, but that's exactly what you did when comparing Arquette to Swagger. It's not the same. And just because Swagger lost to Santino once on Raw a few months ago doesn't mean he isn't a great wrestler. HHH lost to the Brooklyn Brawler once, does that matter? As for the name calling, you didn't warn me the first time. This is the first "warning" you've given me. Once again, you aren't getting your facts straight. And yet you do it again. You dont learn, do you? The lisp is real. Not a cheap joke. Swagger doesnt sell, thats why he has gotten tagged for REAL in the ring. And I never said dont mention WCW. That was you. Please stop making up stories.
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Post by joker123 on Apr 15, 2010 0:04:47 GMT -5
Swagger can sell. Since when could he not sell? You think Swagger has zero charisma, but I'm sure most people with brains would beg to differ. I meant his speech impediment doesn't effect his mic skills or charisma, his lisp is just used as a cheap joke on television. Hypocrite thy name is CM Showstopper. You say don't cite WCW, but that's exactly what you did when comparing Arquette to Swagger. It's not the same. And just because Swagger lost to Santino once on Raw a few months ago doesn't mean he isn't a great wrestler. HHH lost to the Brooklyn Brawler once, does that matter? As for the name calling, you didn't warn me the first time. This is the first "warning" you've given me. Once again, you aren't getting your facts straight. And yet you do it again. You dont learn, do you? The lisp is real. Not a cheap joke. Swagger doesnt sell, thats why he has gotten tagged for REAL in the ring. And I never said dont mention WCW. That was you. Please stop making up stories. Do what again? Name calling? Where did I call you a name in that post? Once again, pulling "facts" out of your ass! And I know the lisp is real. I meant WWE bring it up for cheap jokes. Oh and you never said don't mention WCW? Dont cite WCW and what they do. Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
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Post by wabarrett on Apr 15, 2010 6:29:04 GMT -5
Yeah, CM Showstopper, you are coming across as a little bit mental... He did not call you any name in his last post, and you did indeed just say 'Don't cite WCW and what they do'.
But I'll just chip in and agree with everything Cam has said. Let's not forget, you're a big Ted DiBiase fan (and so am I before you claim I'm attacking your favorites), and he doesn't exactly ooze charisma or talk that brilliantly.
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Post by missedgehead on Apr 15, 2010 10:13:24 GMT -5
I never heard such b.s. in one post in my entire life there missedgehead.And again how doies Orton facing Swagger not make sense?He beat him 2 Raws in a row.Plus we all know the PPV after Mania is almost always rematches(Cena-Batista,Punk-Rey,HHH-Sheamus)so you shoulda known they'll do Edge v Jericho too.Bataista is also a S-Down wrestler and hes been facing Cena(a Raw guy) for the past month so its not like this is anything new.Does it make sense?Maybe not but WWE booking hasnt made sense in a long time. You are the most ignorant and inaccurate poster on WFigs. If you are gonna post here, please check your facts and stop making stuff up or pronouncing things as factual, when they are truthfully false. You talk like do you dont even watch the shows. 1. So what if Orton beat Swagger on 2 Raws? The only reason he was in the tag match was b/c he tried to cash in his MITB against Cena. At the time he was still on RAW. And the second time was his last match on RAW, which they almost always do. There was no feud being developed, let alone any sense. 2. The PPV after Mania is almost always Backlash. The reason its called Backlash is b/c its almost always rematches from WM. This year, Backlash was cancelled and they moved ER. 3. Batista is NOT a Smackdown star. Please stop saying that. You have said that several times and its been months since Batista was a Smackdown star. They announced this on both Raw and Smackdown that Batista moved to the Raw roster. 4. The only thing you said that had any truth in it was WWE's booking makes no sense. So we do agree on something. 5. Dont talk about people being "super fans" and how angry they might be, consider your source. YOU, of all people, havent made a thread about anything other than Orton since you joined WFigs. I have no issue with anyone being a super fan. Thank you. rkokixas has no right to call me a superfan when he is the biggest superfan on here. He evidently does not know the definition of the word HYPOCRITE.
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Post by joker123 on Apr 15, 2010 22:20:43 GMT -5
Yeah, CM Showstopper, you are coming across as a little bit mental... He did not call you any name in his last post, and you did indeed just say 'Don't cite WCW and what they do'. But I'll just chip in and agree with everything Cam has said. Let's not forget, you're a big Ted DiBiase fan (and so am I before you claim I'm attacking your favorites), and he doesn't exactly ooze charisma or talk that brilliantly. Thank you. Maybe CM Showstopper has realised he sounds like a nutjob pulling facts out of his ass and just decided to spare himself even more humiliation.
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Post by kurtangleisgod on Apr 15, 2010 22:36:10 GMT -5
To chime in, while Batista has been appearing on RAW, bottom line, he is a Smackdown superstar until WWE removes him from the smackdown roster page on their official website. As he is currently listed as a Smackdown superstar there, that;s what he technically is.
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Post by Byron F'N Saxton Fan on Apr 16, 2010 1:23:17 GMT -5
As Cameron Stone did, I'll give my two cents in this Thread.
Batista is a SmackDown-brand Superstar. As Dan88 pointed out today, on the WWE 2010 Draft Scorecard, he's listed as a SmackDown Superstar. Until I see video of Vince McMahon from an edition of RAW saying "Batista is officialy a RAW Superstar", or something to that affect, he's a SmackDown-brand Superstar. CM, you were the first one to mention WCW AND the first one to mention Jim Ross. Not sure why you think you weren't the first. You also come off as a huge crybaby and douchebag trying to yield your magic Moderator power by threatning to report Cam. Dude, if you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen as it seems you have already done.
MissEdgehead, you do sometimes favor Edge, but we're all bias to someone, just like rkokixas is to Randy Orton, but you're not that bad. He seems to agree with every decision made by WWE that boosts Orton, yet everytime he's not facing Legacy in a Triple Threat or not fighting for a Title, WWE can't figure out that Orton deserves (Insert Positive for Orton Item Here). It's possible Orton doesn't deserve sh-t, but not according to the Orton and Jericho expert. If Orton was a RAW Superstar, he shouldn't get a SmackDown-brand Title shot for beating Swagger twice when both those times he(Swagger) was a RAW Roster member.
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