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Post by hbkmattelfan on Feb 19, 2010 1:14:14 GMT -5
I've always wondered what the WWF's premiere show was through the 85-93 era before Raw took over. There was Prime Time, Superstars, All American Wrestling, and others. What purposes did each of those respective shows serve? Which was the main show?
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Post by Sam Hain on Feb 19, 2010 2:11:18 GMT -5
In my opinion, it was Superstars. They had major angles play out there (ie. Savage being attacked by Dibiase and Andre, setting up Summerslam 88) and some title changes.
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Post by carly1988 on Feb 19, 2010 2:36:57 GMT -5
i personally thought Superstars and Primetime ran neck and neck.
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Post by Silent Jay on Feb 19, 2010 4:46:40 GMT -5
i personally thought Superstars and Primetime ran neck and neck. This, but back then they were all about the same, mostly squashes matches with angles sprinkled in here and there. |
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Feb 19, 2010 9:23:02 GMT -5
I've always wondered what the WWF's premiere show was through the 85-93 era before Raw took over. There was Prime Time, Superstars, All American Wrestling, and others. What purposes did each of those respective shows serve? Which was the main show? Personally, I thought Superstars was the main show for angles. All American Wrestling was more of a re-cap show. (It aired on Sunday & would show stuff that happened on Saturday, or would fill you in on current story lines.) Prime Time was a little of both. But it would show a main event match from MSG. Once in a blue moon, they'd show matches from the Maple Leaf Gardens. |
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Post by Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai on Feb 19, 2010 18:49:48 GMT -5
To me, it was Superstars of Wrestling, since that seemed to be the show where feuds were built and storylines played out.
They'd set up a feud on Superstars, but they usually found a way to do it that didn't involve a match (the idea was to make people buy house show tickets or PPVs to see the two men finally wrestle each other). There were some exceptions (Steamboat-Savage, Bulldogs vs. Islanders, etc.).
Even though there were jobber squash matches on most shows, I still liked those because you got to see each "star" put his best foot forward and get all of his signature spots in. It also made it feel more special when two stars came face to face to start a new rivalry, because you got so accustomed to seeing them only run through jobbers.
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Post by hbkmattelfan on Feb 19, 2010 23:54:43 GMT -5
To me, it was Superstars of Wrestling, since that seemed to be the show where feuds were built and storylines played out. They'd set up a feud on Superstars, but they usually found a way to do it that didn't involve a match (the idea was to make people buy house show tickets or PPVs to see the two men finally wrestle each other). There were some exceptions (Steamboat-Savage, Bulldogs vs. Islanders, etc.). Even though there were jobber squash matches on most shows, I still liked those because you got to see each "star" put his best foot forward and get all of his signature spots in. It also made it feel more special when two stars came face to face to start a new rivalry, because you got so accustomed to seeing them only run through jobbers. I wish the wrestling bussiness was still presented that way. It would make the star v star matches mean something again. But the youth is too spoiled now......... |
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Post by johnnyfootballz on Feb 21, 2010 18:41:36 GMT -5
To me, it was Superstars of Wrestling, since that seemed to be the show where feuds were built and storylines played out. They'd set up a feud on Superstars, but they usually found a way to do it that didn't involve a match (the idea was to make people buy house show tickets or PPVs to see the two men finally wrestle each other). There were some exceptions (Steamboat-Savage, Bulldogs vs. Islanders, etc.). Even though there were jobber squash matches on most shows, I still liked those because you got to see each "star" put his best foot forward and get all of his signature spots in. It also made it feel more special when two stars came face to face to start a new rivalry, because you got so accustomed to seeing them only run through jobbers. I wish the wrestling bussiness was still presented that way. It would make the star v star matches mean something again. But the youth is too spoiled now......... You guys are so right on the money! The stakes were so high because of this!! I remember Wrestlemania 6. We didn't have access to ppv back then, so I sat in my room thinking,"OMG Hogan and Ultimate Warrior are actually in the same ring now battling it out!" It was such a big thing. Now a days, it would be no big deal. probably wrestled him 200 times before the big date. And would wrestle him 100 more times after it. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2010 19:10:16 GMT -5
When did 'Wrestling Challenge' come in? (I genuinely forgot)
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Post by DTP. on Feb 21, 2010 19:21:37 GMT -5
In my mind, SOW, WC and PTW all seemed alike, though PTW was more important [with bigger names in segments, plus they had two credible matches on]
I'd say SNME, even though that was a month/bi-monthly show on NBC.
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Post by L 0 T T 0 on Feb 22, 2010 0:36:05 GMT -5
It was most definitely - Superstars. Definitely!
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Feb 22, 2010 11:22:59 GMT -5
When did 'Wrestling Challenge' come in? (I genuinely forgot) Most markets aired it on Sundays. In select markets, Wrestling Challenge aired on Saturdays in place for SuperStars of Wrestling. In the New York market, WC aired on Sundays whereas SOW aired on Saturdays. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2010 20:24:54 GMT -5
When did 'Wrestling Challenge' come in? (I genuinely forgot) Most markets aired it on Sundays. In select markets, Wrestling Challenge aired on Saturdays in place for SuperStars of Wrestling. In the New York market, WC aired on Sundays whereas SOW aired on Saturdays. Great, thanks for that, cheers.  |
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Post by ztj_wwf on Feb 23, 2010 22:22:42 GMT -5
Can anyone tell me what days Superstars, Prime Time and Wrestling Challenge were on?
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Feb 24, 2010 0:53:33 GMT -5
Can anyone tell me what days Superstars, Prime Time and Wrestling Challenge were on? Superstars and Wrestling Challenge varied in what market you lived in. When the WWF began airing SOW in the US, Canada got their own version called Maple Leaf Wrestling. The Canadian version of Wrestling Challenge was called Cavalcade. Prime Time Wrestling aried on Monday nights. Here is a video worth checking out: |
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Post by ztj_wwf on Feb 24, 2010 21:04:30 GMT -5
Can anyone tell me what days Superstars, Prime Time and Wrestling Challenge were on? Superstars and Wrestling Challenge varied in what market you lived in. When the WWF began airing SOW in the US, Canada got their own version called Maple Leaf Wrestling. The Canadian version of Wrestling Challenge was called Cavalcade. Prime Time Wrestling aried on Monday nights. Here is a video worth checking out: Thanks. |
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Post by NCWA on Feb 24, 2010 23:36:26 GMT -5
Did the WWF really stress any importance with one show over the other during these periods? I figured because of the way the taping schedules used to run for these shows, that they would have to distribute the angles they wanted to play out over a series of the shows. I'm actually not 100 percent sure this is the way they used to build angles in the specific 85-93 period, but I remember even during the first couple of years of Monday Night RAW that it wasn't exactly the flagship show. Angles would still play out on Superstars and the other shows involving guys like Bret Hart, Razor Ramon, Diesel, Shawn Michaels, and the rest of the top guys.
I could be wrong. I just think the idea of WWF even thinking one of their shows would be considered a "flagship" show during the 80's isn't really relevant. The idea of a flagship show is more of a modern way of thinking, especially when you look at the business model of the company back then and the way it was more structured to make money off of the house show and PPV circuits.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2010 19:38:32 GMT -5
me it was Superstars.You were given a wide variety of action and on the spot interviews.And who could forget the times Jesse Ventura would refer to Gorilla Monsoon as Gino.
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Post by Johnny Lawrence - Cobra Kai on Feb 27, 2010 23:02:42 GMT -5
Did the WWF really stress any importance with one show over the other during these periods? I figured because of the way the taping schedules used to run for these shows, that they would have to distribute the angles they wanted to play out over a series of the shows. I'm actually not 100 percent sure this is the way they used to build angles in the specific 85-93 period, but I remember even during the first couple of years of Monday Night RAW that it wasn't exactly the flagship show. Angles would still play out on Superstars and the other shows involving guys like Bret Hart, Razor Ramon, Diesel, Shawn Michaels, and the rest of the top guys. I could be wrong. I just think the idea of WWF even thinking one of their shows would be considered a "flagship" show during the 80's isn't really relevant. The idea of a flagship show is more of a modern way of thinking, especially when you look at the business model of the company back then and the way it was more structured to make money off of the house show and PPV circuits. Well, there were definitely angles that played out on every major show. But some far more often than others. I recall Superstars being the show where the majority of WWF feuds began. SNME was guaranteed to highlight the big guns due to being on NBC, so you either got the feuding wrestlers in a match with each other, or one would interfere in the other's match, or something. It always advanced the feud somehow, but since it only aired every six weeks or so, it didn't make sense to begin every feud on that program. Wrestling Challenge was more likely to advance a feud than to start one, but I recall it usually just repackaging whatever happened on Superstars and airing it again. Same with All-Star Wrestling. The only feud I can recall that clearly began on Prime Time Wrestling was the Brooklyn Brawler vs. The Red Rooster, when Lombardi attacked Terry Taylor on the set after he confronted Bobby Heenan. Otherwise, Prime Time usually featured a good match or two, but you could safely skip it without losing track of storylines. |
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Post by LaParka on Feb 27, 2010 23:17:51 GMT -5
Superstars and Wrestling Challenge were the weekend shows one on saturday one Sunday and PrimeTime was the Monday night show. each show did various things to set up angles heading into ppv. they were mostly squash shows but you had the 1 feature match every week.
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