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Post by ZT on Mar 16, 2010 18:14:45 GMT -5
*ahem*
Kiss my ass THQ. Those 3 had better be available eventually for Xbox.
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Post by HHH316 on Mar 16, 2010 23:13:13 GMT -5
I'm not thrilled being a X360 owner, but I won't lose sleep over this.
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Post by NAЯDO on Mar 26, 2010 9:45:02 GMT -5
very much excited for this game, this has got to have a better game play, one problem I have with the current 2009 undisputed is it's very hard to make your opponent submit.
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Mar 26, 2010 13:08:09 GMT -5
www.mmamania.com/2010/3/26/1391288/ufc-2010-undisputed-gameplaySubmissions
According to everything I’ve read, this may be the most improved area of the game. The submission switching, which is performed simply by switching the direction that you are rotating the stick, is a great way to fool your opponent. When you switch subs (say from a triangle to an armbar) your opponent will have to switch directions as well if he hopes to get free. If he keeps going in the same direction, he’ll tap.
Also, this means that slamming on the buttons as fast as you can is no longer a way out of submissions. Last year, this was supposed to be “brute force” escape tied to a fighters’ strength rating, but in reality it was just easier. For those who are annoyed by rotating the right stick, don’t worry. The developers also said that speed and frequency have less to do with achieving subs than making perfect circles. This year, Geometry is in. Who knew?
Oh, and if you are one of those douches who holds the right stick after getting in mount, your screwed. While escaping the mount isn’t easier, it is much easier to go from mount up to mount down position and then work out of trouble.
Striking
The big deal this year is the new sway system. No longer will fighters upper bodies be tied to animations that leave you stuck in place. Apparently, this is the key to the standup game now. Since MMA is so much about countering, the sway system does allow you to counter effectively by ducking punches and letting loose with your own. This caused quite a few KO’s, according to all the reports. Apparently, if you sway into a punch, that can end the fight quick as well.
Another sore area for people last year was leg kicks. They were purely cosmetic and didn’t really do any damage. Not this year. Now, legs get red, and fighters slow down and their legs get beat up. Leg kicks can even buckle fighters and increase chances of landing takedowns.
Another standup factor is the “Moment” system. That’s not the official name, but that seems to be what people are calling it. When your opponent is rocked, the game slows down and allowed you to input a few button presses to try and finish them. Once you choose your strikes, the game restarts and the action plays out. This should severely downplay being rocked compared to last year when it was almost impossible to get back up when the gray screen came about.
Also fixed in the standup game is the stepping strikes that covered the whole cage.
Clinch and Cage Work
The clinch has been completely reanimated. In order to transition in the clinch, the same method must now be used that is used on the ground. In other words, to go from over-under to double underhooks now requires a quarter circle on the right stick. Whipping the opponent in the Muay Thai clinch will now take even more energy, and require a very precise set of analog movement and button presses.
Against the cage, the game looks and plays beautifully according to all reports. Dirty boxing is well animated and control while damaging your opponent is completely possible. The example of Couture v. Vera keeps being brought up. There are many positions against the cage, both on the feet and on the ground. Look for things like Wall walks and slams against the cage too.
Fighter Individuality
This is a huge one for me. Last year, Lyoto Machida fought the same Forrest Griffin. Not okay. Apparently, that is completely gone as the archetype move sets are a thing of the past. Instead, all the fighters have their own sets of moves. In the demo that was played, Thiago Alves strikes were completely different from that of GSP or other fighters. The same goes for the ground positions and submissions. Things like the butterfly guard and the crucifix are in, but the rubber guard may have gone out. Personally, I’m okay with that. 2009’s game made it seem too common, and while Eddie Bravo and Joe Rogan might be pissed, it may be for the best.
Also included this year will be “Special Submissions.” The example given was Joe Stevenson. We all know that Joe Daddy is known for his guillotine. Well, Joe’s guillotine is that much harder to get out of in the game.
Presentation
No, there are no walk-in entrances, which I still think is a good thing. Entrances are very unnecessary, and even the developers said that people would watch it once and then skip it completely.
However, there are a ton of new and fixed presentation elements. When the fight goes to decision, the scoring graphic will no longer steal Buffer’s thunder and expose the score early. Cuts are now reanimated, and fights can even end if cuts get too extreme. In career mode, you can now watch all the other fights on the card if you would like to.
Create A Fighter
This was the only part of last year’s game that I would truly call weak. It was so limited that everyone’s fighters ended up looking the same. This year, it is much more fleshed out according to everyone who had a chance to play with it last night. There is also now options for things like what gear to wear, more nicknames, how you are announced, your face to face pose (think Diego looking like a serial killer) and even the way you celebrate. Like everyone isn’t going to choose jumping on top of the cage. Or maybe Anderson’s guitar playing. Or GSP’s backflip. Or B.J. licking the blood off his gloves. Wow, there are actually a lot of options.
There are obviously new appearance options, but there are also new options for things like stances. Apparently, there are orthodox and southpaw versions of 12 different stances including things like Karate, two muay thai stances and even a brawler stance.
When it comes time to select your moves, you will select every single move. Kicks, punches, takedowns, and subs are all individually chosen to make your character your own.
Demo
This year’s demo will feature SIXTEEN fighters and is coming “soon.” The devs promised it would not be pushed back, as it appears that THQ has pretty much put the ribbon on this game, as they said they are already working on the 2011 version.
Sixteen fighters with their own movesets means that I will likely not be leaving my house for awhile.
All in all, it sounds like we are going to be in for a treat. All of these new features in addition to an engine that has been sped up to more accurately represent the sport sounds like a winning formula. We still have to find out about the online fight camps and the career mode, but I’m already sold. The mainstream gaming and MMA media should be delivering their write-ups before Monday.To be honest, my favorite part is hearing that I can watch all of the fights on the card I'm on in Career Mode.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Mar 26, 2010 17:08:09 GMT -5
Looks like this game is going to be perfect. But no ruber guard makes me a sad panda.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2010 17:40:38 GMT -5
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Post by Happy Pizza on Mar 26, 2010 18:51:25 GMT -5
Looks like this game is going to be perfect. But no ruber guard makes me a sad panda. Rubber guard and Muay Thai clinch were so cheap they almost broke the game.
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Post by PdW2kX on Mar 27, 2010 2:36:09 GMT -5
I loved Rubber Guard, but I admit that it was incredibly abused to the point where it nearly broke the game.
The more and more I hear about this game, the more and more I can't wait to play it. So glad I've got it pre-ordered and paid in full.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Mar 27, 2010 12:36:09 GMT -5
Looks like this game is going to be perfect. But no ruber guard makes me a sad panda. Rubber guard and Muay Thai clinch were so cheap they almost broke the game. Thai clinch was easy to escape. Even if you couldn' get out, you can usually block the strikes until the guy ran out of stamina, and them bam! Submission. I do it every time. And full mount was abouse to the point where you couldn't even say anything about rubber guard. Once again, it's easy to escape rubber guard as well. Nothing cheap about it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2010 17:24:23 GMT -5
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Post by kimb0slic3 on Mar 27, 2010 22:52:55 GMT -5
well I for one will be getting this, it is like 09 but I will still get for KIMBO and updated roster plus the submission change it was a b!tch in 09...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2010 3:02:35 GMT -5
30-minutes of handheld captured footage.
Full fight. I'm loving that knockouts aren't canned animations anymore.
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Post by Yeezy's Mullet: Team X Blades on Mar 29, 2010 7:42:39 GMT -5
2 minor concerns.
1. I hope that the samina bar isn't out.
2. I'm really hoping that the new system doesn't make the ground game more difficult than it already was.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2010 17:00:15 GMT -5
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Post by OverTheEdge on Mar 29, 2010 17:51:41 GMT -5
9,000... 4... I've heard it both ways. Saw those earlier, and I gotta say that this game is looking really good. From the first few previews we got it didn't look like they did all too much, but the more they show the more obvious the changes are.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2010 18:31:22 GMT -5
Eh, maybe it's not so bad that the PS3 gets 3 exclusive fighters when I'll be able to choose between 90 others instead. Here's most of the roster including referees and arenas, credit to RyanCE for compiling this list:
Heavyweight • Antoni Hardonk • Brendan Schaub (DLC) • Brock Lesnar • Cain Velasquez • Cheick Kongo • Dan Severn (PS3) • Frank Mir • James McSweeney (DLC) • Junior Dos Santos • Kimbo Slice • Marcus Jones (DLC) • Minotauro Nogueira • Mirko Cro Cop • Roy Nelson (DLC) • Shane Carwin • Todd Duffee
Light Heavyweight • Brandon Vera • Chuck Liddell • Forrest Griffin • Jon Jones • Keith Jardine • Luiz Cane • Lyoto Machida • Matt Hamill • Mauricio Rua • Rampage Jackson • Rashad Evans • Ryan Bader • Stephan Bonnar • Thiago Silva • Tito Ortiz
Middleweight • Anderson Silva • Chael Sonnen • Dan Henderson • Demian Maia • Denis Kang • Drew McFedries • Michael Bisping • Nate Marquardt • Nate Quarry • Ricardo Almeida • Vitor Belfort • Wanderlei Silva • Yoshihiro Akiyama • Yushin Okami
Welterweight • Amir Sadollah • Anthony Johnson • Carlos Condit • Dan Hardy • Dong Hyun Kim • Dustin Hazelett • Frank Trigg • Georges St-Pierre • Jon Fitch • Josh Koscheck • Martin Kampmann • Matt Hughes • Matt Serra • Mike Swick • Paulo Thiago • Royce Gracie (PS3) • Thiago Alves
Lightweight • BJ Penn • Caol Uno • Clay Guida • Diego Sanchez • Frankie Edgar • Gray Maynard • Jens Pulver (PS3) • Joe Stevenson • Kenny Florian • Nate Diaz • Sean Sherk • Takanori Gomi • Tyson Griffin
OTHER
Venues • General Motors Place • Red Rock Casino Resort Spa • Pearl at The Palms • MGM • Mandalay Bay • Bell Center • O2 Arena • UFC Gym
Referees • Mario Yamasaki • Herb Dean • Yves Lavigne • Dan Miragliotta
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Post by Hollywood Asia on Mar 29, 2010 19:19:41 GMT -5
OK now im thinking of getting this.... ROYCE GRACIE
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Post by WCWA Online on Mar 29, 2010 19:29:42 GMT -5
why exactly are the legends all PS3 exclusives? And if that is going to be the case, why AREN'T the TUF guys 360 exclusive? seems bullcrap that the PS3 gets all 7 "extra" fighters, while 360 owners are just SOL on Severn, Pulver, & Gracie.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2010 19:43:03 GMT -5
why exactly are the legends all PS3 exclusives? And if that is going to be the case, why AREN'T the TUF guys 360 exclusive? seems bullpoop that the PS3 gets all 7 "extra" fighters, while 360 owners are just SOL on Severn, Pulver, & Gracie. I'm not sure of the specifics but THQ has some sort of deal with Sony, I remember hearing how they were upset that the PS3 version of SVR '07 wasn't released and who could forget about the exclusive DLC from last year's SVR game.
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Post by HHH316 on Mar 31, 2010 1:30:23 GMT -5
I can't even begin to tell you how happy I am that Dan Henderson is on the game. Like, seriously, I might cry.
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