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Post by The Dude on Feb 11, 2010 15:53:55 GMT -5
He would be HUGE right now if he went to WWE in the 80's, he must have had his own reasons, but I can just imagine he could be like Flair and Hogan.
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Feb 13, 2010 22:16:23 GMT -5
I wish he had done it. Not because it would have made him bigger, as he's a legend as is. But all of the dream matches we could have seen.
Sting vs. HBK, Taker, HHH, Rock, etc. Depending on when he came it, other names could also be involved. But it would have been fantastic.
As I said, he's one of my favorites as is, but I will always have those what ifs in my head.
Also, 94-95 would have probably been the best chance for him. He was pushed down hard in favor of guys like Hogan. But to be fair, he would have missed all the money of the nWo feud had he not been there... And who knows how either side would have done if Sting was a different part of the equation. Now there's an interesting thought.
i will say that as much as he can still go, I can't wait until he retires. Then maybe we'll get a 3 disc dvd from WWE.
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Post by carly1988 on Feb 13, 2010 22:21:28 GMT -5
I wish he had done it. Not because it would have made him bigger, as he's a legend as is. But all of the dream matches we could have seen. Sting vs. HBK, Taker, HHH, Rock, etc. Depending on when he came it, other names could also be involved. But it would have been fantastic. As I said, he's one of my favorites as is, but I will always have those what ifs in my head. Also, 94-95 would have probably been the best chance for him. He was pushed down hard in favor of guys like Hogan. But to be fair, he would have missed all the money of the nWo feud had he not been there... And who knows how either side would have done if Sting was a different part of the equation. Now there's an interesting thought. i will say that as much as he can still go, I can't wait until he retires. Then maybe we'll get a 3 disc dvd from WWE. I still think in 94 Sting should have turned heel. Imagine him with no face paint. Black pants with a colored scorpion and well just kinda a bad ass. He, Flair and Arn as heels vs Hogan, Savage and whoever would have been cool |
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Post by alwayssunny on Feb 13, 2010 22:35:08 GMT -5
No, Then we wouldnt have TNA in its form today
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Post by bane on Feb 15, 2010 14:02:05 GMT -5
I don´t see him as a legend at all. I see him as scared...
When you are a wrestler and just ask anyone...The dream is to be at Wrestlemania. That is the pinnacle of success to tell the world you have arrived. Sting was never there so he is nothing to me. An indy worker if you will. To ME, WCW never beat the WWF. I never watched them more than 2 or 3 times so they mean nothing to me. THe WWF always had my loyalty. Sting is a big fish in a little pond. Always has been. There is nothing legend about him.
And how EXACTLY did vince destroy other´s creations? Booker T looks exactly how he did in WCW. Same with Vadar...Same with others. Mankind is a BETTER character than Cactus JAck was. So Vince made Foley better. Lex Lugar USA was a MUCH better character than anything WCW did with him. Flair was Flair in the WWF. Same robes everything. It´s WCW that messed with him by turning him crazy, and into the Black Scorpion etc. Arn Anderson and Tully were exactly the same. I don´t see this crap heaped on Vince for changing things...They are pretty much like they were in WCW. Terry Funk was Terry Funk. Vince didn´t change nothing. Again...The King Harley Race...BETTER character than his WCW version of just being boring Harley Race.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2010 15:07:32 GMT -5
I don´t see him as a legend at all. I see him as scared... When you are a wrestler and just ask anyone...The dream is to be at Wrestlemania. That is the pinnacle of success to tell the world you have arrived. Sting was never there so he is nothing to me. An indy worker if you will. To ME, WCW never beat the WWF. I never watched them more than 2 or 3 times so they mean nothing to me. THe WWF always had my loyalty. Sting is a big fish in a little pond. Always has been. There is nothing legend about him. And how EXACTLY did vince destroy other´s creations? Booker T looks exactly how he did in WCW. Same with Vadar...Same with others. Mankind is a BETTER character than Cactus JAck was. So Vince made Foley better. Lex Lugar USA was a MUCH better character than anything WCW did with him. Flair was Flair in the WWF. Same robes everything. It´s WCW that messed with him by turning him crazy, and into the Black Scorpion etc. Arn Anderson and Tully were exactly the same. I don´t see this crap heaped on Vince for changing things...They are pretty much like they were in WCW. Terry Funk was Terry Funk. Vince didn´t change nothing. Again...The King Harley Race...BETTER character than his WCW version of just being boring Harley Race. This is borderline delusional. The fact that your feelings about WWF/Wrestlemania being the only wrestling that matters disregards the history of wrestling as a whole aside, do you honestly believe that Sting was/is afraid? That sounds like a rationalization to fit your WWE-centric viewpoint. What is he afraid of? If you don't understand how Vince ruined wrestler's characters by making them into watered-down, cartoon versions of their previous characters, I'm not sure what to say. A lot of people like the goofy cartoon, a lot of people don't like it. More objective minds than yours can easily see the difference. But I'll see if I can make a quick effort: Ric Flair -- widely regarded as the best wrestler ever, primarily for his work done outside of the WWF. Though his image was the same, his wrestling persona was dramatically weakened. Flair was a cheating heel, but he was also booked so that he could win cleanly against anyone. That's not how he was presented in WWF. What are the highlights of Flair's career in WWF? Nothing that would lead people to call him the best ever. Vader -- ruthless destroyer and champ in WCW, never saw the belt in WWF. Not because OMG, the WWF is the major league, but because they booked him in a way that diminished him. Harley Race -- was the NWA champ when it was the most prestigious belt in all of wrestling (check WWE's own history of the World Heavyweight Championship if you have doubts). When he came to the WWF, they gave him blonde hair, a goofy gimmick, and never mentioned that he once stood atop the entire wrestling world. Diminished. The point is, Vince books the WWF/E to appeal to fans of gimmick wrestling and support the illusion, to which you've succumbed, that the WWE is the only wrestling that matters. More informed people know differently. There's nothing wrong with liking what you like, but it's silly to act like that's the only thing that matters, especially when it flies in the face of actual history. |
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Feb 15, 2010 15:36:48 GMT -5
Flair had some great highlights in WWE, though I do agree for the most part with him.
To be fair with Harley, he was nearing the end of his career, and still going out and putting on a heck of a show. Plus, he had bleached his hair at other times in his career too.
Some other good examples are Dusty Rhodes, who was a joke in WWE. As a tetiment to him, though, he was till insanely over. Ronnie Garvin was downplayed a lot, though I think he just didn't fit in WWE.
Really, there are guys that fit both sides of the issue, but I don't feel like thinking of more right now.
vince has pretty much always favored his own guys. But I still think Sting would have been a bigger star for them than a lot of the others were.
I know I already mentioned how crazy it would have been if he'd jumped in 95, but wouldn't it have been something if he went to WWE instead of Warrior? Think about how different things would be now. So many awesome things would never have happened, but maybe other awesome things would have. What ifs are insane.
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Post by carly1988 on Feb 15, 2010 16:50:56 GMT -5
I don´t see him as a legend at all. I see him as scared... When you are a wrestler and just ask anyone...The dream is to be at Wrestlemania. That is the pinnacle of success to tell the world you have arrived. Sting was never there so he is nothing to me. An indy worker if you will. To ME, WCW never beat the WWF. I never watched them more than 2 or 3 times so they mean nothing to me. THe WWF always had my loyalty. Sting is a big fish in a little pond. Always has been. There is nothing legend about him. And how EXACTLY did vince destroy other´s creations? Booker T looks exactly how he did in WCW. Same with Vadar...Same with others. Mankind is a BETTER character than Cactus JAck was. So Vince made Foley better. Lex Lugar USA was a MUCH better character than anything WCW did with him. Flair was Flair in the WWF. Same robes everything. It´s WCW that messed with him by turning him crazy, and into the Black Scorpion etc. Arn Anderson and Tully were exactly the same. I don´t see this crap heaped on Vince for changing things...They are pretty much like they were in WCW. Terry Funk was Terry Funk. Vince didn´t change nothing. Again...The King Harley Race...BETTER character than his WCW version of just being boring Harley Race. That might be the biggest joke of a posting ever. Wrestlemania is where everyone inspired to be once McMahon monopolized wrestling. If Sting "desired" to go to the WWE then he would have. The NWA was the most desirable championship EVER in the history of wrestling. Terry Funk wasnt Terry Funk, you must have missed him running around with a lone rangers mask on while in the WWF. (it was before or after Jimmy Jack was around) You must have missed him being a world champion with the ELITE belt in wrestling only to go to the WWF and be jobbed out to Hogan. Same goes with Harley Race, he was a WRESTLER until going to the WWF where he became a gimmick. Booker T is clearly not the same either. WWF made Booker a freaking king. Who the  is a king from Houston Texas? If Mankind is better the Cactus why is he known around the WORLD as Cactus? They dont run up to him and say "hey mankind". USA Luger was a complete rip off of Hogan which failed miserably. The Narcissist gimmick was basically the exact same gimmick he's had only given some stupid ass shiney trunks. Arn, Tully and Flair all had to stay the same because their name and legacy were so big that even Mcmahon couldnt ruin those. That was by far your 3 biggest heels in the 80s along with DiBiase and Piper......but Im sure you'd much have rather seen some McMahon great like Ted Arcidi |
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