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Post by man on Jun 8, 2009 13:16:03 GMT -5
I'm actually glad this match never took place. Here's why:
Build-up
This would be hard to do. Hogan vs Warrior build-up worked because you had two "superhuman" characters and the focal point wasn't on "good guy vs bad guy" it was about who was the more powerful of the two. So, it worked. Hogan vs Hart would be difficult to set up face on face. What's the angle? Despite beign smaller in 1993, Hogan was still much larger then Bret and was still the "power guy". The feud would be much too hard to do face on face and keep it clean.
The Match
Again, two very different styles here. And it would not be a case of "gee... who would win this one" But more of a case of "can Bret take Hogan". Hogan would be the "likely" guy to win since Bret would've been one of the smaller opponents of Hogan's career. Honestly, the match would've been "C"... maybe "B" quality at best.
Honestly, I don't believe this match would've been a classic. It certainly would not rival Hogan vs Warrior or Bret vs Shawn. In the long run, Hogan was right in putting over Yokozuna (and he did, don't argue here! Yoko dominated the match. Hogan "couldn't slam him", took three big boots to put him down, and he kicked out of the leg drop. Yoko pretty much made Hogan look absoleet). Yoko was a formidable big guy after his win over Hogan and a great heel. It should've been Yoko vs Bret at SS instead of wasting time with a would-be-Hogan, Lex Luger.
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Post by Patrick Bateman on Jun 8, 2009 18:31:27 GMT -5
I agree with that.
Yokozuna was one of the best monster heels ever.
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Post by hbkrules on Jun 8, 2009 23:29:14 GMT -5
I understand where bret was coming from but I think it made more sense to have a monster heel destroy Hogan than to have him lose to a face. For about 8 years WWF built up monster heels to lose to hogan so having him finally lose to one really put Yoko over and made him look unstopable.
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Post by man on Jun 9, 2009 9:44:22 GMT -5
And I think that's where Vince dropped the ball. One can make an argument about Bret's status in 1993. He main-evented WM9 as the champion. But come SummerSlam, he was not "the guy". I think Vince made the mistake of pushing Luger over Bret. Luger was built up way too much like Hogan:
> Blone and Buff
> All American
> All for the kids
> Super strong, able to slam the impossible (Andre/Yoko)
Way too much like Hogan. Be he lacked the charisma that Hogan had and plus that trend faided somewhat in the early 90's. Yoko was built up as a monster after taking Hogan out, that would've set up Bret really well for SummerSlam!
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Post by k5 on Jun 9, 2009 11:51:38 GMT -5
but the lex express tour! it was bound for success!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2009 13:23:17 GMT -5
And I think that's where Vince dropped the ball. One can make an argument about Bret's status in 1993. He main-evented WM9 as the champion. But come SummerSlam, he was not "the guy". I think Vince made the mistake of pushing Luger over Bret. Luger was built up way too much like Hogan: > Blone and Buff > All American > All for the kids > Super strong, able to slam the impossible (Andre/Yoko) Way too much like Hogan. Be he lacked the charisma that Hogan had and plus that trend faided somewhat in the early 90's. Yoko was built up as a monster after taking Hogan out, that would've set up Bret really well for SummerSlam! agreed 100% |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2009 16:47:41 GMT -5
here's the thing...it doesnt matter if he wouldve been booed out the building or not
bret isnt saying that it wouldve happened, he's only saying thats what hogan's excuse was for not wanting to face him & lose. it's very likely that hogan used that as a way to get out of losing to someone he didnt want to.
it doesnt seem like a stretch of the truth to say "hogan was worried he'd get booed" because it's basically a cheap out by hogan
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Post by man on Jun 9, 2009 16:54:26 GMT -5
I can't imagine Hogan being worried about being booed. Seems kinda silly for a star of his caliber. He had a lot more to worry when he faced the Warrior at WM6 since 1990 Warrior was MUCH more over then the 1993 Bret.
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Post by k5 on Jun 9, 2009 17:40:55 GMT -5
personally, i bet bret would've been booed. and that is coming from a huge hart mark.
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Post by CSUMB84 on Jun 13, 2009 15:32:12 GMT -5
here's the thing...it doesnt matter if he wouldve been booed out the building or not bret isnt saying that it wouldve happened, he's only saying thats what hogan's excuse was for not wanting to face him & lose. it's very likely that hogan used that as a way to get out of losing to someone he didnt want to. it doesnt seem like a stretch of the truth to say "hogan was worried he'd get booed" because it's basically a cheap out by hogan Right from the book, Bret said Hogan's excuse for not wanting to face him was that when Vince told Hulk the match with Bret at Summerslam would be non-title, he no longer wanted to do the match with Bret, even though Vince told Bret at the photoshoot he would beat Hogan with the sharpshooter. When both went in to see Vince, Vince said, "I never, ever said it would be a title match." As for the boo'ing, here is the exact except....."A summerslam showdown with Hogan-in many ways, a showdown between my fans and his....If I faced Hogan at Summerslam, win or lose, I knew he'd be boo'd and I'd be the underdog. What didn't occur tome was that Hogan knew it too." |
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Post by markallenkellner on Jun 14, 2009 11:33:24 GMT -5
I think so. Wasn't Yokozuna cheered at King of the Ring when he beat Hogan for the title?
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Jun 17, 2009 21:34:37 GMT -5
And I think that's where Vince dropped the ball. One can make an argument about Bret's status in 1993. He main-evented WM9 as the champion. But come SummerSlam, he was not "the guy". I think Vince made the mistake of pushing Luger over Bret. Luger was built up way too much like Hogan: > Blone and Buff > All American > All for the kids > Super strong, able to slam the impossible (Andre/Yoko) Way too much like Hogan. Be he lacked the charisma that Hogan had and plus that trend faided somewhat in the early 90's. Yoko was built up as a monster after taking Hogan out, that would've set up Bret really well for SummerSlam! IAWTP. To be honest, Bret Hart regaining the title at WrestleMania X made more sense for two reasons. 1)Made Bret Hart the face of the New Generation Era and 2)The program that Bret and Owen would have for the World Wrestling Federation Championship. Bret Hart's title win at WrestleMania X made him look stronger than going over Hogan at SummerSlam '93. I've read a post similar to this over at another wrestling board. Hogan's popularity started to decline in 1991. When The Undertaker defeated Hogan at the 1991 Survivor Series, the Detriot crowd cheered for that. In the long run, I'm glad Hogan vs. Hart didn't take place at SummerSlam 1993. |
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