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Post by CBT on Aug 11, 2008 22:17:15 GMT -5
I can't believe I'm a minority. I mean, I'm one of few that thoroughly enjoyed Raw. Yes, Kane's swerve is absolutely senseless, but it is a swerve. They practically told us what it was, so who would have gave a if Kane pulled out his own mask. For the record though, both Goldust and Vader came to mind when he said it wasn't his mask.... Then I thought more logically, and The Hurricane didn't show.
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Post by brethitmanhartxx on Aug 11, 2008 22:18:51 GMT -5
WWE continues to be brain dead.
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Post by JCF on Aug 11, 2008 22:21:21 GMT -5
JCF, WWE isn't quite the best it's been. We have no Orton, HBK isn't wrestling and Kennedy's out. WWE's product overall is good now, I agree, but I still think the best WWE TV has been this year (including RAW, SD and ECW) would be the weeks leading up to Wrestlemania. We constantly had good, solid match-ups on TV where nowadays we don't have quite the multitude of good wrestling on the tv shows. I can't help it, I prefer the wrestling side of the product to the promo/cut-scene side of it. I largely evaluate how good an episode of a certain WWE show is by how good the wrestling is and how much of it we see. Tonight's RAW, for example, was very weak on wrestling. We got some good promos, but all throwaway, super short matches. Yeah, I can agree with that. Raw has lacked wrestling lately. Smackdown is pretty decent though. Raw's always promo-mania.
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Post by Bubba Ray DJ on Aug 11, 2008 22:21:35 GMT -5
That was THE FIRST time I've ever watched a Raw angle evolve, the build up, and the final conclusion (Rey's mask) and yell "What the " at my screen. It made terribly little sense.
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Post by dgnr8 on Aug 11, 2008 22:42:46 GMT -5
I honestly have barely been able to maintain consciousness through a whole episode of RAW for over a year now. I love WWE, and I will always be loyal to the company, but this whole era is shjt. They even f*cked up my hopes of Kane going back under the mask.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2008 22:49:48 GMT -5
After reading some of the 2000 Era of WCW in the book "The Death of WCW", WWE is pretty damn good. I forgot how bad WCW was with Russo and his damn stipulations. I for one still loved Viagra on a Pole.
SummerSlam Main Event WWE Championship Viagra on a Pole Match Triple H vs. Great Khali
MAKE IT HAPPEN!
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Post by pedigree on Aug 11, 2008 22:54:56 GMT -5
yea,raw and wwe sucks right now for many reasons: 1. they have a very weak and over rated world champ in cm punk. 2. wwe should always put the champions in the main spot lights 3. extream lack of match quality 4. right now wwe is making a huge mistake by going PG I mean come on "JBL is a poopy" that is just stupid the only person that would make since to is a five year old 5. there is a compleat lack of pride in the wwe i mean i used to not leave my room until wrestling was over,now i get up when its at a break and if i miss an entrance who cares.
WWE can fix this but they dont and yet i still watch this crap three times every week
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2008 22:59:30 GMT -5
yea,raw and wwe sucks right now for many reasons: 1. they have a very weak and over rated world champ in cm punk. 2. wwe should always put the champions in the main spot lights 3. extream lack of match quality 4. right now wwe is making a huge mistake by going PG I mean come on "JBL is a poopy" that is just stupid the only person that would make since to is a five year old 5. there is a compleat lack of pride in the wwe i mean i used to not leave my room until wrestling was over,now i get up when its at a break and if i miss an entrance who cares. WWE can fix this but they dont and yet i still watch this crap three times every week
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Post by pedigree on Aug 11, 2008 23:08:13 GMT -5
yea,raw and wwe sucks right now for many reasons: 1. they have a very weak and over rated world champ in cm punk. 2. wwe should always put the champions in the main spot lights 3. extreme lack of match quality 4. right now wwe is making a huge mistake by going PG I mean come on "JBL is a poopy" that is just stupid the only person that would make since to is a five year old 5. there is a complete lack of pride in the wwe i mean i used to not leave my room until wrestling was over,now i get up when its at a break and if i miss an entrance who cares. WWE can fix this but they don't and yet i still watch this crap three times every week hey man I'm not whining about it,like i said i still watch all three shows each week.I was just pointing out the five main problems
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Post by duan on Aug 11, 2008 23:17:19 GMT -5
Wow everyone didn't like what I said. I think WWE is better then previous times. We got fresh new stars, Punk as World Champ, the awesome Edge/Taker feud... etc. I agree with this man.
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Post by pedigree on Aug 11, 2008 23:22:15 GMT -5
yea but look at what they are doing to cm punk
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Post by Ultimate Figure Collector on Aug 11, 2008 23:23:27 GMT -5
WWE is better then ever before imo. You can't be ing serious...
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Post by HugoOne on Aug 12, 2008 0:37:21 GMT -5
I'm sorry, what exactly is the problem?
So...Kane didn't pull out his mask. That means what? He was going to put it back on and be the same wrestler as before, but with a mask and more squash matches that we see weekly on Smackdown! with the Russian and Khali? Everyone says it doesn't make sense when they've only run the angle for one day. Do you really have to get pissy and say WWE is terrible because you didn't get exactly what you wanted? I'm fine with a surprise in Mysterio's mask, as it kayfabe explains why Mysterio was on Raw one week and off the next few.
And again, I fail to see where the PG rating damages the product. I'm perfectly fine cutting out the potty humor and the blood is saved for when it's needed (see: Jericho vs. Michaels).
Seriously, the majority of this board overreacts when something doesn't go their way.
New champions like Punk, Rhodes, Debiase, Kofi, I'm totally good with that. And yeah, Punk hasn't been booked that well, but he looked incredibly strong tonight on Raw and cut probably the best promo since he joined the WWE. People just can't wait to see what unfolds and bash it before it does.
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Post by BcBlingin- Scooter Glenwood on Aug 12, 2008 2:27:08 GMT -5
I think its funny how people complain because the Kane mask storyline did not turn out like they were EXPECTING.
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Post by radicalpunk on Aug 12, 2008 2:36:57 GMT -5
I think it's funny how people turn on RAW when Kane didn't pull out what they wanted him to. Did you expect it? No, so I enjoyed that.
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Post by forwantof on Aug 12, 2008 3:16:25 GMT -5
WWE is better then ever before imo. Ladies and gentlemen, THIS is your post of the year.
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Post by Ace Bennett on Aug 12, 2008 8:14:44 GMT -5
Did anyone else think that Kane was talking about Hurricane's mask when he said it was somebody else's?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2008 8:17:39 GMT -5
All i have to say is Y2J Jericho looks funny in his trunks.
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Post by ChrisRiddle on Aug 12, 2008 8:38:18 GMT -5
I realised last night for the first time since i started watching again in 2006....The wrestling i grew up watching ( attuide era) is dead. I thought bringing Masked Kane back was going to give me some hope, but i was wrong.
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Post by Chip on Aug 12, 2008 9:16:42 GMT -5
its so funny how everyone bashes EVERYTHING yet continues to watch every week you are no longer fans...you are HATERS
the kane segment was PERFECT. I've said all along, him bringing back 1997 kane is STUPID. First of all he didnt speak, he had LONG HAIR and paul bearer....how the hell does that equal 2008 kane?
was he going to wear a wig? was he going to just wear his mask with his bald head....does anyone even realize how RIDICULOUS that would look? and again, it would be cool for about 2 weeks, then just be the same old thing when he said it wasnt his mask and the person was scarred, etc...i immediately thought he was going to pull out foley's old brown mask to set up Foley's last "run" as Mankind, which would have gone with the "report" that he is thinking of "leaving" but instead he pulls out rey's mask...walks away, and they go to commercial
ITS BRILLIANT! can you honestly tell me that you dont want to watch summerslam or RAW to see where this is going? what exactly are they going to do with rey? thats the idea. rey has been the same boring stale cheesy face for what? 5 years? after his chavo "personal" feud, he got hurt, lost steam, lost popularity and just became blah. this makes things interesting, gives rey & kane a purpose and I want to know where they are going with it
dont you people realize that WWE is not just going to give you what YOU think is good? or even obvious for that matter. if they give you the obvious you say "oh well i saw that coming a mile away" so what is the point?
people are so damn critical nowadays and you wonder why the product seems stale and old. its because all you do is complain or blame everything on Triple H.
this week's RAW was the build up to Summerslam, the stories are supposed to make you care about the shows, not trash them. you're entitled to your own opinions of course, but if you are watching consistently annoyed that things arent going the way YOU want them to, then you are not a fan.
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