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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Aug 5, 2008 17:20:13 GMT -5
Hey, A few minutes ago, I caught a bit of the replay of Raw last night on The Score. It was during the tag-team title match between John Cena & Batista vs. Ted DiBiase & Cody Rhodes. After Cena & Batista won the match and they were standing in the ring raising the belts, I seriously could not believe how massive John Cena is now. I mean, I said to myself, he's  ing ridiculously huge now and if he ain't using steroids then I'm Doink the Clown. LOL. Seriously, I do not believe for one second that you can get as big & massive as Cena is right now without taking steroids. It's just not possible. And I know lots of people would agree with me there. Cena's arms looked as big, if not bigger, than Hulk Hogan's and we all know he used steroids to achieve his bulk & muscle mass. So, how and why is it so hard for people to believe that Cena could be using steroids as well?? It's certainly questionable, that's for damn sure. And keep in mind, The Dynamite Kid has openly admitted that he used steroids for years as well and he was ing tiny compared to either Cena or Batista. And Batista, don't even get me started on that juice-freak. It's blatantly obvious he's using them. I mean, come on here. When you are bigger than The Ultimate Warrior ever was, then there's a problem. If Batista & Cena are passing WWE's drug tests, then they are using someone else's urine. Either that or WWE isn't testing them at all. End of story. Because if guys like William Regal, Jeff Hardy and Jimmy Wang Yang are failing, then how the are they passing?? It's impossible and ridiculous. If you send them to where the UFC fighters get tested, it's a ing guarantee they will fail and you all know it. Anyways, that's just my little rant. I already know most of you probably won't agree with me, but whatever. You are entitled to your own opinion and so am I. |
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Post by Mastermind on Aug 5, 2008 17:23:02 GMT -5
yeah i also believe they are juiced up..triple h also...
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Post by acr93 on Aug 5, 2008 17:23:18 GMT -5
Eh...
Does it look like they take steroids? Yes
Does that mean they are taking them? No
No point in really arguing over it when we'll never know for sure. Unless they get suspended or they openly admit to it.
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Post by thephenominalone on Aug 5, 2008 17:26:37 GMT -5
You do know Cena used to be a professional bodybuilder right? Not all bodybuilders use roids, they use countless other legal supplements and an incredibly strict dietary regimen and workout schedule to gain a body like that. Not to mention being that size also depends on your genetics, as they are obviously both natural mesomorphs.
And just as a side note, there is a very good chance Cena was on some form of steriod directly after his pec tear in order to build the muscle back, but would be 100% legally prescribed by a legitimate physician, not some internet pharmacy. That would explain how he was able to bulk back up so quickly after time away from the gym.
To end this rant: Vince McMahon is a smart businessman.... if you think for one second he'd allow any of his Top 7 superstars (LET ALONE in his mind his 2 out of his TOP3, HHH being the 3rd), use steriods and risk the type of scandal it would set off taking into consideration all the negative backlash over the internet pharmacy scandal and Beniot killings... you are just insane.
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Post by Wrigley15 on Aug 5, 2008 17:31:42 GMT -5
yes they are probably juicing but when u live in the gym like they do u get big. but dont take dis the wrong way but does batista have a striker bulge NO. look at cena when he debuted then look at him now its ridiculous
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Post by Happy Pizza on Aug 5, 2008 17:34:28 GMT -5
Both of them used to be professional body builders, plus they're just naturally huge. You can't grow inches in height by using steroids. The Dynamite Kid wasn't as big as them because he was naturally very small in stature, but the steroids helped him get extremely well-defined.
I'm not saying I know for sure they have never done steroids, but you always seem to act like you know for 100% certain that you know they did, when really you don't. Some people are just naturally big, and when combined with inhuman workout regimens and a good diet, and a few completely legal supplements, they can get really muscular. John Cena and Batista have, for all the time they've been wrestling, always been the exact same size. If you really want to crucify somebody and go off on multiple tangents about steroid usage, please just move the spotlight to somebody like Scott Steiner.
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Aug 5, 2008 17:35:33 GMT -5
Unless they get suspended or they openly admit to it. That's just it though. I don't believe WWE will ever suspend Cena or Batista. They've got WAY too much riding on them to suspend them at any time. If they take them both away right now, what would happen to the show?? How could they possibly get around without two of their main draws and sellers?? I don't believe they could. That's why I believe WWE is protecting a small circle of superstars including Cena, Batista, Triple H, Shawn Michaels and The Undertaker. I don't think you will ever see their names on WWE.com when they announce the next suspended superstar. And if so, they would've appeared there AT LEAST once by now...But somehow they haven't and I think that's very questionable. Especially in Cena, Batista and Triple H's cases. |
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Post by Wrigley15 on Aug 5, 2008 17:36:56 GMT -5
cena and hhh are on em cuz of their injures and r using it 2 their advantage
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2008 17:45:58 GMT -5
Don't you post one of these monthly?
Anyway, as people have said, Cena and Batista used to be professional bodybuilders, so it's not that hard to grasp that they have good genetics and a good mind muscle and train like animals in order to maintain their physiques. To be honest, I don't even think Cena nor 'Tista are that huge compared to a few years ago, I mean they were a lot bigger back in 2002/2003 sort of time. I just hate the whole Internet mentality of "oh, that guy is chiselled, he must be on something", it's absolute garbage. You know, some guys are actually driven to do something with their body and get into fantastic shape, such as a Cena or a Batista. I hate the whole "that guy's ripped, he's obviously on teh roids!!11" stuff because it craps on all the hard work and the discipline that these men have in staying in the shape they're in. To say it's "not possible to get in that kind of shape without taking steroids" shows your blatant ignorance towards the subject, and illustrates the fact that you don't have the intelligence on the matter to make a thread like this. Are you a doctor? Didn't think so. I expect I'll get a reply saying "well coming from a guy named CenaIsGod, blah blah blah" like I usually get round here, but before I do, let me just say that yeah I'm a big Cena fan, but I'm no Batista fan by any means, the fact of the matter is it's irrelevant who we were talking about, I just can't stand people pointing the finger at guys and saying "They're on this, that and the other" just because they have great physiques. It's BS.
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Post by tnafan17: The Total Package on Aug 5, 2008 17:46:41 GMT -5
Both of them used to be professional body builders, plus they're just naturally huge. You can't grow inches in height by using steroids. The Dynamite Kid wasn't as big as them because he was naturally very small in stature, but the steroids helped him get extremely well-defined. I'm not saying I know for sure they have never done steroids, but you always seem to act like you know for 100% certain that you know they did, when really you don't. Some people are just naturally big, and when combined with inhuman workout regimens and a good diet, and a few completely legal supplements, they can get really muscular. John Cena and Batista have, for all the time they've been wrestling, always been the exact same size. If you really want to crucify somebody and go off on multiple tangents about steroid usage, please just move the spotlight to somebody like Scott Steiner. I agree about the Cena and Batista thing. And Dynamite Kid has never been huge been when using the roids he began to get well toned. I mean I doubt guys as big as them naturally have to use them due to the fact that they are gifted in that area. But sometimes I must say I still go back and forth over this situation due to the fact that on the CNN special on Benoit, Cena doesn't give a yes or no answer which kinda gives me the feeling he may have used them before. And to add on about Steiner I could've sworn he just had muscle implants...... I mean seriously though why waste your time on something your never really going to figure out or get a straight answer to. Cause I mean technically we'll never know. |
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Aug 5, 2008 17:48:50 GMT -5
John Cena and Batista have, for all the time they've been wrestling, always been the exact same size. I don't believe that at all. Last night, Cena looked bigger than ever. Certainly a whole hell of a lot bigger than when he debuted in the WWE in 2002. There's no way Cena has remained the exact same size. I have no idea how you can possibly say that. Go back to his debut match against Kurt Angle and tell me he looks the same from then to now. You can't. End of story. He's put on a ton of muscle-mass since then and I just don't see how you can deny it. Plus, go back to O.V.W. when Batista was known as Leviathan. Sure, he was huge then, but I believe once he came up to WWE, he got much, much bigger as well. |
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Post by jatoh on Aug 5, 2008 17:52:21 GMT -5
Jeff Hardy got suspended for Drinking problems
William Regal and Yang got suspended for pills.
They weren't on steriods
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Post by JCF on Aug 5, 2008 17:56:26 GMT -5
LOL
My father was watching the main event with me. I said this: "Wow, it's amazing how Cena is so popular, listen to the pop. His response: "Look at his arms! They don't even look real. This guys gotta be on something..."
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Post by Nitro on Aug 5, 2008 17:57:04 GMT -5
John Cena said in an interview that to be his size you have to have naturally big joints and bones.
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Post by Happy Pizza on Aug 5, 2008 17:59:56 GMT -5
John Cena and Batista have, for all the time they've been wrestling, always been the exact same size. I don't believe that at all. Last night, Cena looked bigger than ever. Certainly a whole hell of a lot bigger than when he debuted in the WWE in 2002. There's no way Cena has remained the exact same size. I have no idea how you can possibly say that. Go back to his debut match against Kurt Angle and tell me he looks the same from then to now. You can't. End of story. He's put on a ton of muscle-mass since then and I just don't see how you can deny it. Plus, go back to O.V.W. when Batista was known as Leviathan. Sure, he was huge then, but I believe once he came up to WWE, he got much, much bigger as well.   Those are from 2003. He's exactly as ripped as he is now, which is mostly what steroids accomplish, adding definition. All he's done is added a few pounds of muscle, and if you're any shmuck with the internet it's not that hard to do. And as for Batista...  Exactly, 100% the same. |
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Post by CF9™ on Aug 5, 2008 18:00:14 GMT -5
The UFC line had me in stitches. Some of those guys aren't natural for sure. Just because it's a legit sport doesn't mean they are legit. And yeah, I did notice that Cena was huge last night. But he's not any bigger than last week. Cena is representing a company, and is a rolemodel for a lot of people, he knows not to use them. Watch Cenas DVD, and go to the bodybuilding part. It says that his first competition, the people didn't believe he could be natural, but they did tests on him, and he was. And if you look at the pictures, he isn't too much smaller than he is now.   And   He may be a little bigger, but nothing substantial. They guy is just naturally huge. |
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Post by Wrestlaholic on Aug 5, 2008 18:01:20 GMT -5
I don't think for one second Cena is, i think Batista is though.
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Post by OverTheEdge on Aug 5, 2008 18:23:25 GMT -5
John Cena and Batista have, for all the time they've been wrestling, always been the exact same size. Actually, Batista's lost some muscle over the years. When he debuted in the WWE he weighed 318lbs, obviously a majority of that was muscle. Since then he's slimmed down to about 290, I think. |
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Post by Sims on Aug 5, 2008 18:29:56 GMT -5
I don't think for one second Cena is, i think Batista is though. Same I read in my book Cena has always been in shape since like high school. He gain like 50 pounds over three months and on his DVD he has been lifting since he was a kid. |
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Post by Happy Pizza on Aug 5, 2008 18:34:02 GMT -5
John Cena and Batista have, for all the time they've been wrestling, always been the exact same size. Actually, Batista's lost some muscle over the years. When he debuted in the WWE he weighed 318lbs, obviously a majority of that was muscle. Since then he's slimmed down to about 290, I think. I just meant in terms of general size. Neither of them went from being Cody Rhodes to what they are now. |
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