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Post by shenmue on Jun 30, 2008 22:49:51 GMT -5
I stopped reading when you said HHH's politics have effected WWE again, there is no way for anyone here to know that for sure and so I do not care you pass judgement on him or anyone else based off of heresay.
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Post by jomoishollywood on Jun 30, 2008 22:52:43 GMT -5
Oh, you have no idea how much I hate it.
Heels are treated like crap, but really they are the most importnat part of the show.
For us, they are most entertaining. For kids (yes, kids), they make it ok to cheer for their favorite stars.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2008 22:52:48 GMT -5
I stopped reading when you said HHH's politics have effected WWE again, there is no way for anyone here to know that for sure and so I do not care you pass judgement on him or anyone else based off of heresay. You cant sit there and said that Triple H would have gotten here on his own. "Oh he has talent..." So does Elijah Burke... where is he? Charlie Haas is hosting bikini contests and making out with Mae Young. You might say they dont have Charisma or anything but if WWE worked on them, they could be the top guys like Triple H. Now Im not saying Triple H did everything by having sex with Stephanie, but 12 reigns? On just talent and charisma alone? I do not think so
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Post by tommyglamm on Jun 30, 2008 22:54:30 GMT -5
I stopped reading when you said HHH's politics have effected WWE again, there is no way for anyone here to know that for sure and so I do not care you pass judgement on him or anyone else based off of heresay. You cant sit there and said that Triple H would have gotten here on his own. "Oh he has talent..." So does Elijah Burke... where is he? Charlie Haas is hosting bikini contests and making out with Mae Young. You might say they dont have Charisma or anything but if WWE worked on them, they could be the top guys like Triple H. Now Im not saying Triple H did everything by having sex with Stephanie, but 12 reigns? On just talent and charisma alone? I do not think so WWE has a problem pushing most guys, yes, but he wouldbe justa s high up as he is now, maybe missing two or three title reigns
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2008 22:56:19 GMT -5
I would probably say he would be a 5-6 time World Championship if it wasnt for anything backstage
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Post by jomoishollywood on Jun 30, 2008 22:57:46 GMT -5
I would probably say he would be a 5-6 time World Championship if it wasnt for anything backstage You have no idea... So backstage politics wins titles? Not, oh, talent? I'm aware of a booker, and I know some smart ass was going to make that reply.
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Post by tommyglamm on Jun 30, 2008 22:59:00 GMT -5
people choose to hate whoever they want because of what they read on the internet. Oh RVD said this. Booker T said that. Triple H did this
dont believe crap you cannot prove and has not been proven to you by anyone firsthand
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Post by shenmue on Jun 30, 2008 23:01:12 GMT -5
I would probably say he would be a 5-6 time World Championship if it wasnt for anything backstage I could be wrong but wasn't he a 3-4 time Champion he started having a relationship with Steph?. And if the Rock and Austin would have stayed/continued to wrestler they would have pretty much the same ammout of title reigns as HHH.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2008 23:02:43 GMT -5
Wow, people are taking this abit out of context.... to an extent
In Shawn's book he said Triple H voiced his concerns during backstage meetings, in a matter of fact didnt he suggest the Montreal Screwjob. You cant say that Triple H doesnt have Vinces ear, or Stephanies ear. Making suggestions. If talent and booking got you titles. Shelton would have been champion right now. Jericho would be more than a 1 time Undisputed Champion. You cant tell me that triple H just happens to get in the Main Event of WrestleMania every year since 2000 with the exception of 2001 and 2007
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Post by shenmue on Jun 30, 2008 23:07:46 GMT -5
Save_Us.Priceless$$$ have you only just realised that you need politics and talent to be a sucess in pro wresting?.
Please tell me you know that Taker and Cena have backstage power, so has Shawn Michaels ect.
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Post by jomoishollywood on Jun 30, 2008 23:08:36 GMT -5
Wow, people are taking this abit out of context.... to an extent In Shawn's book he said Triple H voiced his concerns during backstage meetings, in a matter of fact didnt he suggest the Montreal Screwjob. You cant say that Triple H doesnt have Vinces ear, or Stephanies ear. Making suggestions. If talent and booking got you titles. Shelton would have been champion right now. Jericho would be more than a 1 time Undisputed Champion. You cant tell me that triple H just happens to get in the Main Event of WrestleMania every year since 2000 with the exception of 2001 and 2007 ... I never said Triple H didnt have a say. Its also quite obvious what it takes to win a championship, you have to be over. You have to be credible. ETC. ETC. Edge is much more over and more credible as a wrestler than CM Punk. Has more history, has more "power" with the fans. He gets a reaction, it may be negative, but he gets the attention of the fans. Before tonight, from what I have seen, CM Punk and reaction are two words you wouldnt see in a sentence. Certain fans are just like that, you make a loud noise over there and they go for it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2008 23:55:33 GMT -5
Save_Us.Priceless$$$ have you only just realised that you need politics and talent to be a sucess in pro wresting?. Please tell me you know that Taker and Cena have backstage power, so has Shawn Michaels ect. I know about all that. And as you can see Undertaker and Shawn Michaels and John Cena arent as bad as Triple H. Triple H = 12 World Titles Undertaker = 6 right now? Shawn Michaels = 5/6 Titles John Cena = 3 or 4 right?
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Post by mickieishot06 on Jul 1, 2008 0:01:17 GMT -5
I would of rather seen CM Punk Cash in the MITB against Edge because CM Punk is a good face and Edge is the ultimate Heel. Plus i like the WHC on Raw better than on SD!
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Post by jomoishollywood on Jul 1, 2008 0:26:18 GMT -5
Save_Us.Priceless$$$ have you only just realised that you need politics and talent to be a sucess in pro wresting?. Please tell me you know that Taker and Cena have backstage power, so has Shawn Michaels ect. I know about all that. And as you can see Undertaker and Shawn Michaels and John Cena arent as bad as Triple H. Triple H = 12 World Titles Undertaker = 6 right now? Shawn Michaels = 5/6 Titles John Cena = 3 or 4 right? I want you to reply to my last reply, it seems like your ignoring it because you know I was right.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2008 0:29:21 GMT -5
I know about all that. And as you can see Undertaker and Shawn Michaels and John Cena arent as bad as Triple H. Triple H = 12 World Titles Undertaker = 6 right now? Shawn Michaels = 5/6 Titles John Cena = 3 or 4 right? I want you to reply to my last reply, it seems like your ignoring it because you know I was right. I would but Im not sure if your agreeing or disagreeing.
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