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Post by fallenhero on Mar 16, 2008 16:46:51 GMT -5
RVD was an amazing champion. He had the belt for like 3 ing weeks...he didn't have time to be 'an amazing champion'. And yes, RVD is overrated. I love the guy, but he's not the second coming of God that people make him out to be.
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Post by moogie101 on Mar 16, 2008 18:00:04 GMT -5
Khali
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Post by LA Times on Mar 16, 2008 18:44:39 GMT -5
Great Khali Miz & Morrison Santino Rey Mysterio Jr when he never beat anybody Hornswaggle
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Post by Eskimo Joe on Mar 16, 2008 19:14:34 GMT -5
I agree with everything you said except that RVD is over rated. He did screw up terribly though and has nobody to blame but himself. RVD being over rated is just my opinions. I also think by the time he received the title, he isn't the same or as good as he was in the late 90's early 2000's. I definitely agree with that, but I think it's mostly because he couldn't wrestle the same style in WWE that he could in ECW.
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Post by 49% Motherf**ker, 51% SOB on Mar 16, 2008 22:02:05 GMT -5
The Great Khali, Rey Mysterio, Santino Marella, Chavo Guerrero, John Morrison, John Cena's year long reign,JBL, Edge's first 2 reigns, Randy's World Championship reign, MVP, Jeff Hardy. I agree with some, but not many of your choices. How was Cena's year long reign one of the worse reigns?? It might have sucked having him as the champion that long, but he defended and did well defending it. JBL became a huge heel becoming champion, and always found a way to win. Edge's first two reigns were to spice up the feud with Cena, and Orton's WHC reign was to spark the feud with Triple H. All of those reigns had reasons behind them.
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Post by 49% Motherf**ker, 51% SOB on Mar 16, 2008 22:03:13 GMT -5
RVD being over rated is just my opinions. I also think by the time he received the title, he isn't the same or as good as he was in the late 90's early 2000's. I definitely agree with that, but I think it's mostly because he couldn't wrestle the same style in WWE that he could in ECW. I agree with both of you. I don't think its because he couldn't wrestle the same style, but his body couldn't handle the same stuff it could in ECW(the real ECW).
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Post by 49% Motherf**ker, 51% SOB on Mar 16, 2008 22:04:09 GMT -5
tbh Rock's 2002 WWE title reign only rarely appears in my mind. They probably gave him the title so they could do The Rock Vs. Brock Lesnar since they knew The Rock's new direction was going to be acting.
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Post by @PaulGriffin on Mar 16, 2008 22:07:28 GMT -5
This has gone 2 pages without someone bashing John Cena.
Guess his title reigns arent so bad!
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Post by JCF on Mar 16, 2008 22:08:40 GMT -5
Khali was bad, very bad.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2008 22:13:11 GMT -5
Khali did more ofr the title than Kane would have.
The only reign I have been against was the hour Triple H reign at No Mercy. They shouldnt have handed Orton the belt, and should have had Triple H beat him. The should have just had the LMS match and had Orton still win. Instead of having it look like Triple H needed to have two matches and being jumped just to have Orton go over him.
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Post by Eskimo Joe on Mar 16, 2008 22:33:05 GMT -5
I definitely agree with that, but I think it's mostly because he couldn't wrestle the same style in WWE that he could in ECW. I agree with both of you. I don't think its because he couldn't wrestle the same style, but his body couldn't handle the same stuff it could in ECW(the real ECW). It's probably a mix of both. I hadn't thought about his body wearing down.
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Post by k5 on Mar 16, 2008 22:35:11 GMT -5
john cena, batista, and if we're going back far enough jbl.
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Post by 49% Motherf**ker, 51% SOB on Mar 16, 2008 22:58:34 GMT -5
john cena, batista, and if we're going back far enough jbl. What makes them bad champions?
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Post by joebaia88 on Mar 16, 2008 23:36:22 GMT -5
Rey was booked horribly as champion, in fact, his was probably the worst WHC reign I've seen.
Also, Jericho's Undisputed Title reign was a bit of a disaster too.
Khali's reign was perfectly acceptable for what it was. I think had creative just stuck the belt on Batista it would have been a bit underwhelming because he'd held it so much recently. So why not give it Khali? He's a more believable champ than anyone let's face it. Batista won the strap off him at just the right time. The whole reign was harmless.
Also, Shelton Benjamin as IC champ, he did nothing for the belt. Carlito's reign was also pretty horrible.
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Post by whatever on Mar 17, 2008 2:15:35 GMT -5
WWE Champion:
John Cena
World Heavyweight Champion:
The Great Khali
Batista
ECW Champion:
Johnny Nitro - Not Morrison, I think they should have just given the belt to punk at Vengence and then created the "Morrison" character, and let him take the belt.
Intercontinental Champion:
Umaga - He never ever defended the belt, he only held it to make him look strong for Mania.
Carlito
US Title: I can't really think of one that was to bad...Orlando Jordan's was mostly to get JBL over in the Cena/JBL Mania build, so it was fine.
World Tag Team Titles:
Flair & Piper - Since Piper fell ill suddenly, this made two legends look incredibly weak, after dropping the belts after, what? a week?
Spirit Squad - ....why? Just.....why?
Michaels & Cena - They only used these belts to build up a match that had plenty of hype already....wasted reign with a stupid ending.
WWE Tag Team Titles: Can't really think of any reigns that were that bad....
Women Title: WWE seems to usually stick this belt on the right girl, so no real complaints here.
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Post by hCo.Bro™ [brandon_lee] on Mar 17, 2008 2:19:20 GMT -5
Great Khali was the worst champion "eeeeeeeeeeeeever" also the worst wrest... sports entertainer 'eeeeeeeeeever"
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Post by Quanthor on Mar 17, 2008 2:23:05 GMT -5
Jeff Hardy as IC champion.
He maybe had that thing on the line four times the entire time he was champ for that six months.
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Post by The-Rock on Mar 17, 2008 2:35:17 GMT -5
WHC: Edge's current reign is really suckyif you ask me. Khali and Rey JBL as US Champ Santino as IC spirit squad as tag champs
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Post by rkolegendkilla on Mar 17, 2008 2:36:47 GMT -5
Probably Rey's World Heavyweight Championship reign. He only had one good match while holding the strap, and that was against Sabu at ONSII.
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Post by The Mac on Mar 17, 2008 4:14:51 GMT -5
WWE Title RVD He finally gets the championship and he does something stupid like getting busted with pot. That was a very low point for the WWE and that title. RVD has the talent to be the WWE or WHC, but he doesn't have the image to carry a company, which is more important for the company. I have always though RVD was overrated, but he did deserve a title reign. Its a shame he screwed it up that bad. World Heavyweight The Great Khali I don't dislike him as much as most people do, but there was no reason to put the WHC on him when Smackdown still had Batista. They could of even had a guy from Raw or ECW come over to hold the title. He is good at being a heel that chases the title, but no title should ever come into his hands again. I.C. Title Santino Marella As funny as he is now, he was a terrible champion. The way he won it on his debut did nothing but hurt his character from the start, and the creditability of that championship. U.S. Title Orlando Jordan I was actually excited when he won that title from Cena. I am a John Cena fan, but it was nice to see a change. Halfway through his title reign I forgot the title even existed. I also think these champions go on the all time worse list as well. The only one i can agrre that was bad was that gay OJ
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