Why Jeff Hardy is Lame ;-)

[Quanthor]

I moved this to generate more traffic ;D

Why Jeff Hardy Sucks by Quanthor

First let me preface that I don't hate Hardy, it's the fact that he's in the spotlight due to the kids and tweeny rats who goo goo and ga ga over him when they see him flail his arms about.

I don't understand how some people are confused why people don't like him, when for me it's quite the opposite, WHY DO PEOPLE LOVE HIM!!!

Lets start with his image shall we?

His look, lest face it- it's dated I know there are probably a lot of people that probably dress just like the guy thinking he's cool and rocks hard, but let me ask you this, would it still be cool if HBK was still sporting Rockers gear while wearing a mullet?

Answer: Of course not, the skater/rocker(whatever you want to call it) hair is something I wore back in middle school 13 years ago, it's the new mullet. Wife beaters and baggy cargo pants? This isn't the nineties anymore, however I still see kids(13-19) who wear this crap and you usually find them hanging out in malls next to novelty shops. - Is that cool? NO!!

Moving on to MIC skills now, do you ever notice that the WWE gives him very little air time and few lines when he does? There's a reason for that [image] but the fans don't have the sensibility to boo him, instead they boo the guy who is doing all the work carrying all the weight on the MIC to make it engaging. If the WWE gave him more air time, I think more people would start to turn on him, but they're being conservative for a reason- he sucks.....bad!!!

The cream of the crop - wrestling skills.

The word contrived is an understatement when describing Jeff Hardy's pacing. He's not just a spot monkey, he disrupts the pace and suspense by setting up his spots, it's too obvious, too choreographed you know what's coming before he does the move.

Pacing and ring psychology is the biggest part of wrestling, and Jeff Hardy, while he is improving, he fails at both of these essential nuanced elements.

The last big matches he had with Jericho (which was a tad sloppy) and HBK, he was working with savvy veterans who know how to do both of these things very well. The HBK match was HBK's style of pacing, he can make bad wrestlers looks good, I will say Jeff did a good job of keeping up, but the level of suspense was brought to by HBK.

Mat skills - has zero, he is so sloppy here, he flops and flails too much, which is why he generally goes to the ropes which is guaranteed to get a pop, even though we have all seen it again and again and again and again and again. He's redundant because he lacks skill in so many areas of wrestling.

Again, I can't express enough, that I wouldn't care if he was somewhere in the mid-card, but his fan boys and the screeching girls have made him a main event contender.

HAR-DEE!!! HAR-DEE!! HAR-DEE!!

Quanthor

[sincityhero]

LOL great and interesting post you have there. I've always been a Hardy fan regardless.

[PhoeniX™: Valoween]

I get the impression that you don't like Jeff Hardy. Am I right?

[dimshady]

Hardy may or may not suck but
A: do we have too have soooo many topics on the same subject?

B: do you really have to repost what you put in another conversation? if no one cared the first time, doubt the will the second!

ps im not a hardy fan b4 you start.

[B.D. & El G.]

I, for one, have been aware of your Hardy hate for a while now, and now I know why...You hate him becuase he is very popular, I get it now, thanks for explaining.

[Quanthor]

wwehardyz said:

I, for one, have been aware of your Hardy hate for a while now, and now I know why...You hate him becuase he is very popular, I get it now, thanks for explaining.

Nope, not true, I like plenty of popular wrestlers and hate no one, he just doesn't have the skills to be in the main event.

[hurricane]

So in other words, you started hating him because he was popular, and then discovered reasons to justify yourself?

[Quanthor]

I challenge anybody to debunk my statements, you wanna say it's because he's popular because you can't think of a reason of why he's good - fine, but that doesn't mean my statements aren't true

[DontHassleTheHoff]

Nobody can say you dont make some good points. However your opinion doesnt realy make a difference when you look at the amount of hardy fans, its like when people complain about cena, unfortunatly until a majority of fans start to dislike him or grow bord of him, he will continue to pushed. Hardy is now is one of the most over wrestlers wwe has and id personaly love to see him win a world title, and im sure a majority of fans who constantly cheer him will agree with me.

[sincityhero]

A majority of fans already do hate Cena....

[Wago]

Yea, erm, I am sure your the king of style, and whats cool and what not....
and you hate him because of him being popular?

You make it sound like Shawn carried Jeff, when that is not true at all.
At the end of the day, WWE isn't about ability, when I watch a WWE show, I don't watch it for wrestling, infact, I don't know what I watch it for anymore.

If you're going to bitch about his mic skills, fair enough, it matters in the WWE, but at the end of the day, he is alot better than half the talent WWE hires.

If you want quality wrestling, go to an indy fed, or go online and watch one.

You talk about him being repeatitive? Well, hate to brake it to you, nearly every veterean in the industry is.

Come back when you have some decent points.

Though it's typical WWE pushes someone after the bitching, the online fans whine and complain, just typical, Online fans are such morons sometimes.

Anyhoo, I have a certain liking for Jeff, because its making it easier for guys like me who are just getting in to the independent wrestling scene, because they can be taken more serious without out having to roid up, that being said I am weight training, at the same time, I don't want to have to roid up to get far in the industry. And theres a good reason for WWE to push him in my opinion.

[Cmaster05]

I disagree with this post, and I did NOT read your rant, but I thank you for actually using proper English in this.

However, your little ;-) in the title proves that Jeff Hardy is not lame, but, in fact, YOU are lame.

[Adam3s - V1]

The main reason he should be in the main event is because he is the most over person in the WWE if you want to get the fans to watch the show let them know that their Jeff Hardy is going to be in it a lot and fans will tune in cause he is over. That is why Cena and Undertaker are always used to gype PPVs as it will make people watch Hardy might be able to do the same so, make him a main eventer and check.

[DgenerationX092]

iodine said:

The cream of the crop - wrestling skills.

The word contrived is an understatement when describing Jeff Hardy's pacing. He's not just a spot monkey, he disrupts the pace and suspense by setting up his spots, it's too obvious, too choreographed you know what's coming before he does the move.

Pacing and ring psychology is the biggest part of wrestling, and Jeff Hardy, while he is improving, he fails at both of these essential nuanced elements.

in your post you kept comparing Hardy to Shawn Michaels. Does Shawn not act the same way in his matches? Shawn "disrupts the pace and suspense by setting up his spots, it's too obvious, too choreographed you know what's coming before he does the move" and theres no argument you can say against that. shawn will ussually hit a flying clothsline, lie flat on his back, and kick up. leading to the end, the superkick. thats about a whole minute from start to finish. With Hardy though, his is ussualy out of nowhere, BOOM the guys down, hardys climbs the ropes and swanton. about 10-15 seconds. pretty fast setup, and execution when compared to Shawns SCM. Then theres the Twist of Fate which can ussually never be predicted. then only sometimes, does Shawn give a quick superkick instead of a full SCM.

then theres the Rock, Batista, Undertaker, Kane, Orton, Edge, Mysterio and others who all "disrupts the pace and suspense by setting up his spots, it's too obvious, too choreographed you know what's coming before he does the move"

[ssxviper382]

Dude Who gives a crap Its old news and stop posting crap about hardy, I hate orton, Mark Henry and cody but i dare you to find one post i made about me hating them cause no one else cares what wrestlers i like and don't like. We all have wrestlers we like and we don't like whats where there are heels and Faces.

[papiontheshortbus]

You're anti-Hardy period, you hate the Hardyz, and you don't admit it. I know you're gonna quote me and say "Oh, I don't the Hardyz" but you ing do. It's not just teens who like Hardy, adults also like Hardy too. I'm a Hardyz fan and I'm proud of it. You just can't deal with the fact that the guy you hate, is the most popular superstar.

JEFF MOTHER ING HARDY for WWE Champion
(give me karma if agreed)

[Patrick Bateman (original)]

iodine said:

wwehardyz said:

I, for one, have been aware of your Hardy hate for a while now, and now I know why...You hate him becuase he is very popular, I get it now, thanks for explaining.

Nope, not true, I like plenty of popular wrestlers and hate no one, he just doesn't have the skills to be in the main event.

Did Hogan? Warrior? Diesel? Sid? Really the list goes on and on. It is all about who can get over with the fans not who is the best wrestler. Otherwise Bret Hart, Kurt Angle, Chris Benoit would be the only guys in the hall of fame.

[Quanthor]

dgenerationx092 said:

iodine said:

The cream of the crop - wrestling skills.

The word contrived is an understatement when describing Jeff Hardy's pacing. He's not just a spot monkey, he disrupts the pace and suspense by setting up his spots, it's too obvious, too choreographed you know what's coming before he does the move.

Pacing and ring psychology is the biggest part of wrestling, and Jeff Hardy, while he is improving, he fails at both of these essential nuanced elements.

in your post you kept comparing Hardy to Shawn Michaels. Does Shawn not act the same way in his matches? Shawn "disrupts the pace and suspense by setting up his spots, it's too obvious, too choreographed you know what's coming before he does the move" and theres no argument you can say against that. shawn will ussually hit a flying clothsline, lie flat on his back, and kick up. leading to the end, the superkick. thats about a whole minute from start to finish. With Hardy though, his is ussualy out of nowhere, BOOM the guys down, hardys climbs the ropes and swanton. about 10-15 seconds. pretty fast setup, and execution when compared to Shawns SCM. Then theres the Twist of Fate which can ussually never be predicted. then only sometimes, does Shawn give a quick superkick instead of a full SCM.

then theres the Rock, Batista, Undertaker, Kane, Orton, Edge, Mysterio and others who all "disrupts the pace and suspense by setting up his spots, it's too obvious, too choreographed you know what's coming before he does the move"

Wrong, HBK knows when to utilize his spots, which are very few, Hardy's are predictable, the three moves that sets up his spot gives it away. He brings too much attention to it, the twists of fate is highly predictable, it's all in the movement. Twist of fate in the center of the ring followed by swanton is about as contrived as you can get.

The difference between the other guys (with the exception of Mysterio) is that they don't rely on the spots, they can preform with out them- Hardy can't, making him one dimensional.

Again it's the pace at which he wrestles and how he leaves no room for improvisation and can't mat wrestle, but he's works well when it's highly choreographed.

[T. Selanne]

the person that made this topic clearly likes Hardy

[ztj_wwf]

Why hating on Jeff Hardy is lame

- He has put on amazing matches in the past
- Risks his body more than anyone else in the WWE currently
- People say he's a spot monkey, and dislike him for that, does that mean you dislike Mick Foley, Shane McMahon?
- He is capable of doing more than just spots as we have seen in the past aswell.