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Post by bad guy™ on Nov 23, 2007 12:20:26 GMT -5
My guess is Yukio wants him to drop the title. And probably wants to give him a few easy matches to get any rust he may, or may not hav, off. And that is why I think Valentine is going to loose this week on Loaded to Demon.
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Post by ekhall on Nov 23, 2007 12:25:19 GMT -5
Drop the title? If he were going to drop the title, that should've been done while he was on hiatus.
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Post by Kurt Burton: Script Doctor! on Nov 23, 2007 13:02:44 GMT -5
Drop the title? If he were going to drop the title, that should've been done while he was on hiatus. Yeah... but don't take Horror's word for anything... he's the Dave Meltzer of WFWF... I got a big scoop and this time, it has a 22% chance of being right.
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Post by bad guy™ on Nov 23, 2007 13:17:26 GMT -5
Burton you son of a *****. Atleast my reason makes sence.
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Post by Calvin on Nov 23, 2007 15:22:43 GMT -5
not really, considering if he was gonna drop the title, why did he hold it for two months while not even rping? He should have been stripped for inactivity really if you were gonnna go that way, or that's how i woul dhave done it.
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Post by Kurt Burton: Script Doctor! on Nov 23, 2007 15:33:29 GMT -5
not really, considering if he was gonna drop the title, why did he hold it for two months while not even rping? He should have been stripped for inactivity really if you were gonnna go that way, or that's how i woul dhave done it. Although with that reasoning, you weaken the title, it's not as prestigious unless you win it off of someone. With that said, I am shocked this place has never been good at keeping titles where they belong. World: Held by Main Eventer Thunder International: Should be an Upper Midcard title, Held by Johnny Valentine(Possibly Upper, but should be main.) National: SHould be Mid Card, held by Main Eventer Deville Hardcore X: Lower midcard/jobber title, held by upper(possibly main eventer) Johnny Valentine. Tag Titles can be held by any combination of statures, but should normally float around the mid card, Wayne is a Main Eventer, and I may be a midcarder, though the Higher Authority have given me more credit as of late.
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Post by DGX on Nov 23, 2007 15:42:44 GMT -5
What I notice WFWF has here is what I like to call "Brock Lesnar syndrome" they madly pushed this guy based on his image but you'll notice that they didn't right away throw him into feuds with the Undertaker and Kurt Angle. But first he had to go through the midcard staples like a small feud with the Hardyz and also I think a minor go around with RVD, so while indeed talent wise I may be main event level (and this is according to what others have told me, not me tooting my own horn or saying I am in fact a main eventer) I think I'll likely be placed in the midcare/upper midcard until I finally have a career defining match. Yukio doesn't really qualify as he no showed due to personal reason, so thus far the only noteable at least according to status on this site people I have defeated are Obo (and I'm sure that was just because he in a larger overall RP only dedicated a small myspace segment to the match) and CBT (who I'm sure was penalized for his late posting), so again all my major victories, as a roleplayer, you could justify that some kind of shinanigans tarnished each of those victories.
That's prolly why I'm not seen as completely legit yet.
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Post by bad guy™ on Nov 23, 2007 15:43:42 GMT -5
Well the world title is where it should. So is the International. Tag team should be mid carder, and Burton, you give yourself less credit than you should get. You are really good. And I have no comment about the National title and the Hardcore X.
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Post by Markw on Nov 23, 2007 15:46:45 GMT -5
not really, considering if he was gonna drop the title, why did he hold it for two months while not even rping? He should have been stripped for inactivity really if you were gonnna go that way, or that's how i woul dhave done it. Although with that reasoning, you weaken the title, it's not as prestigious unless you win it off of someone. With that said, I am shocked this place has never been good at keeping titles where they belong. World: Held by Main Eventer Thunder International: Should be an Upper Midcard title, Held by Johnny Valentine(Possibly Upper, but should be main.) National: SHould be Mid Card, held by Main Eventer Deville Hardcore X: Lower midcard/jobber title, held by upper(possibly main eventer) Johnny Valentine. Tag Titles can be held by any combination of statures, but should normally float around the mid card, Wayne is a Main Eventer, and I may be a midcarder, though the Higher Authority have given me more credit as of late. Exactly put the tag titles on Chemical Reaction Valentine should be International but not Hardcore X Yeah quite a few people have titles that they shouldn't have
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Post by sonstuds on Nov 23, 2007 15:56:16 GMT -5
- Burton's a main eventer, upper mid-carder at the very least.
- Deville shouldn't be in the HS, that's stupid.
- Deville holding a mid-card belt is even funnier then him being in the HS.
- The International Title has always been screwed up. See McGurk holding it for like 37 years until he lost to CBT for some reason.
- I don't even consider the Hardcore X title an official title. Probably because of the random "X" in the name.
- This is a bad ass posting style.
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Post by ekhall on Nov 23, 2007 16:02:44 GMT -5
The status of a title is really all about what the holder makes it.
You can say the International Title is a mid/upper midcard belt, but if no one could take it off of McGurk, then it becomes something much more enviable.
There are two titles I can see staying in the possession of their current owner if the talent that challenges them comes from the division it's supposed to be from.
However, if you give them comparable competition, then you raise the value of the belt.
If the World Title changes hands 3-5 times a year but our International/National/Hardcore champion retains for an entire 12 months, while it isn't the same as saying you're number one in WFWF . . . people take notice to how unstoppable you are.
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Post by sonstuds on Nov 23, 2007 16:07:35 GMT -5
I agree in theory, but there's a difference between being competitive in your matches and basically blowing your opponents away. I'm under the impression the National Title is supposed to be for the mid-carders/newer HS guys who made the jump to Loaded. Maybe I'm cynical but no one in that category is gonna be able to touch Deville. And considering the context I'm digging people talking about Deville like he's not here.
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Post by bad guy™ on Nov 23, 2007 16:16:33 GMT -5
In my mind, thses should be the people who can contend for the titles
World:Thunder, Obo, EBR, Deville, McGurk, and quite possibly Burton
International:Really anyone who is on Loaded who is not a Main Eventer.
National:Any HS person
Hardcore X: Should not even be around.
Tag Team: Really any tag team that has potential.
But, I could be wrong.
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Post by Markw on Nov 23, 2007 16:55:53 GMT -5
In my mind, thses should be the people who can contend for the titles World:Thunder, Obo, EBR, Deville, McGurk, and quite possibly Burton Yukio, Rev and CBT are going to be angry International:Really anyone who is on Loaded who is not a Main Eventer. Except You National: Any HS person Me and me alone Hardcore X: Should not even be around. Good Point Tag Team: Really any tag team that has potential. Chemical Reaction But, I could be wrong.
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