Yukio Blaze
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WFWF Record: 58-54-03-02
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Post by Yukio Blaze on Sept 17, 2007 21:25:36 GMT -5
Alright, I'm ready to post a official announcement regarding a few controversies at either Survival Of The Fittest or places elsewhere.
The Survival Of The Fittest match was perhaps the most tricky match that the WFWF has ever seen and the most difficult match to ever call. It will more than likely be the match that either broke me or it will make me and I can possibly say that McGurk has the same views on that previous comment.
Now, Deville had what some can call one of the greatest rps to ever come out since the Kyzer and Drakz days. I can say that it was the best that I've seen in a while, but not the greatest. Thunder, added something new to his rp that made it very unique like Deville's was. Deville had length on his rps which I'm both a fan and a non fan with because it does cause some rps to break their stride. I'm not saying this was the reason this time, but it was about .000069876% of the outcome.
Pretty much what I'm saying was both Thunder and Deville put out great rps for the match itself and I'm sticking with mu guns for how should have won the match regardless. Its not because Thunder is a veteran and needed his time in the spotlight, nor was it because Deville is still somewhat of a rookie in the WFWF because that is BS. If he wasnt a rookie, would I have already given him a shot at a up and coming title, would I have him working 1 show a month. No, its not because he is new around here.
The SOTF match was not, WAS NOT rigged in anyway, unlike some matches in the past, but I'm not even going to call them out just because. I chose the man who I thought was the clear winner of the match and look at what backlash it has called. So go on and bash me for reasons, upon reason for this match, past matches, and future matches to come. If you dont like my judging skills then say it now of forever hold your peace.
I know ask you all for what you want. You want me here, gone, or just on a sh*t list. I think I have explained my self the only way I can and thats just about it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2007 21:42:41 GMT -5
This is ridiculous.
First of all, dude, you didn't give me a shot at anything. I earned the XBreed Title because I won a match that every house show guy was in. I don't want to sound cocky, but I basically have this belt by default based on the timing of my entry into WFWF.
Secondly . . . your thoughts on my quick surge here are well documented so you're starting a battle you will not win.
I'm not going to say more . . . but if you don't want this place falling to pieces from the inside out, I'd suggest locking this thing ASAP, and getting your head where it belongs.
Forget about what people think of you for three seconds and be honest with yourself. Because when you aren't, you can't be honest with everyone else.
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Thunder
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Post by Thunder on Sept 17, 2007 21:42:50 GMT -5
You did the right thing here by defending your actions. More than anything else, I think that's what people wanted. You went out here and did what you thought was the right decision, and that's all anyone can ask for in any situation.
And I don't think you should leave. You have been a good owner so far and I'd hate to see you quit just based on maybe a decision that isn't the most popular.
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Post by cureforthesickness on Sept 17, 2007 21:58:44 GMT -5
I voted yes, simply because I'm a prick
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Post by CBT on Sept 17, 2007 23:14:02 GMT -5
This could have been handled with out a poll, if anything you're welcoming non-posters to come in and screw around with what you don't want in the polls.
That said, I say hmm.... I told you so, but hey, I hope it winds up being your call and not something it doesn't need to be.
In all fairness the only 2 matches getting critiqued are ones that in a real life situation do have two sides of view.
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Post by veronicaaaahhhh on Sept 17, 2007 23:19:23 GMT -5
There's no reason to blow this whole thing out of proportion. That decision was also mine, and I stand by that.
That's all.
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Post by cureforthesickness on Sept 18, 2007 7:46:27 GMT -5
you know, I know I've made my public opinion on this particular situation less than clear, but I'll say it now. I want to feud with Deville. We've got a rough draft of some stuff we think we could run and run well.. In my and many other opinions, Deville had Thunder and the rest beat at SOTF.. But let's say it's a fluke. Let's say he wrote one good roleplay and there's no real reason to push him to the world title right away..
what if he wrote another?
Here what I'm saying.. we've done special referee matches in the past, but what if now, we do one for real. Someone steps in and referees a match both in-charecter for the show and out of charecter to judge the roleplays.. and we do a little rematch. Thunder versus Deville. No one can question that the outcome of SOTF was with question, and this is no knock to Thunder, but wouldn't it be better that the number one contender is without a shadow of a doubt the best to challenge? So how about we make sure.. First FDS out of SOTF.
Pierce Deville versus Thunder - WFWF Heavyweight title #1 contender match, special referee: Obo..
build the start of the feud for the World title into the next PPV regardless and figure out a definitive winner in the SOTF match.
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Post by sonstuds on Sept 18, 2007 8:23:08 GMT -5
Pierce Deville versus Thunder - WFWF Heavyweight title #1 contender match, special referee: Obo.. build the start of the feud for the World title into the next PPV regardless and figure out a definitive winner in the SOTF match. That's bullcrap. Don't take the match away from Thunder. He won the SOTF, and in turn, won the number one contendership (which he kinda had anyways seeing as how he beat you on FDS, same with Calvin). If Deville had won would you still to do a number one contenders match? Probably not. You admitted in your own post how you want Deville vs. Obo. This just comes off as you trying to get your way. Maybe Deville "should have" won, but I think what's kinda lost on this is the fact Thunder put out one of the top 2 RPs of the week. It's a shame people are putting an asterisk onto it. Onto the topic at hand, I'll be pretty blunt. It was worse when Calvin and Thunder lost last FDS.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2007 8:23:13 GMT -5
EDIT: I don't want people thinking I'm trying to start anything.
I would appreciate it if we could drop this as a community and move forward.
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Post by cureforthesickness on Sept 18, 2007 8:52:01 GMT -5
Pierce Deville versus Thunder - WFWF Heavyweight title #1 contender match, special referee: Obo.. build the start of the feud for the World title into the next PPV regardless and figure out a definitive winner in the SOTF match. That's bull ****. Don't take the match away from Thunder. He won the SOTF, and in turn, won the number one contendership (which he kinda had anyways seeing as how he beat you on FDS, same with Calvin). If Deville had won would you still to do a number one contenders match? Probably not. You admitted in your own post how you want Deville vs. Obo. This just comes off as you trying to get your way. Maybe Deville "should have" won, but I think what's kinda lost on this is the fact Thunder put out one of the top 2 RPs of the week. It's a shame people are putting an asterisk onto it. Onto the topic at hand, I'll be pretty blunt. It was worse when Calvin and Thunder lost last FDS. my big thing is, I have no interet in facing Thunder. I really don't. We've done it like 4 times now. "But it's for the WORLD TITLE NOW" and the title and titles really don't mean **** to me.. I do it for the competition and the fun of developing a good story. I think that's what was really lost in obo-McGurk 2, was the great story that the first feud built. it really didn't help when the feud started because CBT said "you two are feuding now". Bluntly, I probably wouldn't say the rematch deal had Deville won. Because, and again, this is no offense to Thunder.. but the proper person would have won the match.. it seems I'm fighting a dead horse though, considering what's in the roll call thread and all..
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Post by hardyz on Sept 18, 2007 9:17:06 GMT -5
I do not want you gone Yukio. I may say that at times, but I do not mean it. Now, I see where everyone is ticked, but I would not say you should leave over it. You did what you felt was right, and you defended your opinion. So I say stay and everyone just drop it.
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Post by sonstuds on Sept 18, 2007 9:28:04 GMT -5
my big thing is, I have no interet in facing Thunder. I really don't. We've done it like 4 times now. "But it's for the WORLD TITLE NOW" and the title and titles really don't mean **** to me.. No offense, but it's not really about facing who you want to face when you have the title. Then it's on you to make it that. Besides, make the central story about your character and not who you're facing. I'll toot my own horn (Yeah!). My on going angles (the documentary, the Tag Team Titles, my new one) aren't about my opponents. They're about EBR. I can understand that, but then why face him the second time? Why make it a feud? Why do basically the same thing you did vs. Rev (run ins on FDS, involving Samantha)? I didn't have any plans to "feud" with CBT. Yukio wrote a match where CBT suplexed EBR onto Calvin, and from a character perspective we were kind of pushed into it. That said, it's mine and CBT's fault the feud was initially as dull and bland as it was, not Yukio's. Besides, just cause you're facing Thunder doesn't mean you have to feud with him. ...And I really don't know where I was going with any of this, but as opposed to a CBT rant, mine at least makes sense.
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Post by cureforthesickness on Sept 18, 2007 9:39:46 GMT -5
...And I really don't know where I was going with any of this, but as opposed to a CBT rant, mine at least makes sense. and has proper punctuation!
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Calvin
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Post by Calvin on Sept 18, 2007 11:28:43 GMT -5
I honestly can't give a comment, because well I'll be honest, I didn't read either of their rps. By the looks of them though they both were good. Also by the sounds of it Deville is gonna be in FDS from now on so um, lets kinda get that X breed title off him, because it kinda sounds like he DOESN'T want it.
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Post by hardyz on Sept 18, 2007 11:31:20 GMT -5
Well I have been banished to HS shows again so...... ^^ High Horror> All HS people but Deville
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2007 11:34:44 GMT -5
The segment about the XBreed belt was an angle we were going to play with it. Deville taking the HS hostage, so to speak, and talking down on it. Basically trying to develop him more as a heel.
As far as me being on FDS:
No . . . according to Yukio I would have been given the call up within a month and a half or so. Now that PC is taking leave it's opened up a hole in the mid card level for me.
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Calvin
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Post by Calvin on Sept 18, 2007 11:35:50 GMT -5
...I see.
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Thunder
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Post by Thunder on Sept 18, 2007 14:57:42 GMT -5
I could say a lot of things about some of the comments, but I won't get into that because it certainly won't help matters. I will say this though, in my defense. It's not like Deville put out a great RP and I put out a piece of crap. I don't know how many people actually read my RP, but I think those who did could attest that I put out a great RP myself. I was proud of what I put out, but it seems like everyone assumes my RP was worthless. Did Deville deserve to win? Yes, but the difference in RP quality is nowhere near the Calvin/Jay match.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2007 15:00:38 GMT -5
Brother Thunder, let me just say that this never has had anything to do with me thinking you didn't deserve to win. It's just that I've since found out that judges have said I was had the better piece and they decided against me.
I loved your RP. Said so already. Saying it again. Don't let these comments take anything away from you. I'm disappointed solely in the management style. Not the outcome.
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Post by sonstuds on Sept 18, 2007 15:25:35 GMT -5
I will say this though, in my defense. It's not like Deville put out a great RP and I put out a piece of ****. I don't know how many people actually read my RP, but I think those who did could attest that I put out a great RP myself. I was proud of what I put out, but it seems like everyone assumes my RP was worthless. Did Deville deserve to win? Yes, but the difference in RP quality is nowhere near the Calvin/Jay match. I believe I already said that.
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