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Post by recklessmatten on Aug 17, 2007 7:31:09 GMT -5
While i was at work today i had an idea for the WFWF. There seems to be a lot of people in the house show and a lot of big guys up top, so i thought of an idea about a brand split. Much like WWE has go with 3 seperate rosters, only WFWF Will have 2. One Felo de se and the other Odium (name of the video game). Have the owner of felo de se and boss of it and house show boss as Odium or him to come up with his own name. Then have a draft where the guys take it in turns to pick members to go on there roster. For titles there could be one world title that both shows fight for and separate titles for each show like tag titles and other mid card titles like a international title and hardcore title. PPVs could be joint hosted and have some inter promotional battles and same shows matches. So instead of having all the top dogs all on one show, it would be mixed aswel as hs guys being able to fight along with the top dogs.
Thats my idea, what do people think and is there a chance it could happen?
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Post by cureforthesickness on Aug 17, 2007 7:52:09 GMT -5
all it would really accomplish is slow down results, because the two owners would then each be working on their own product.
Odium was the main show during the Kyzer-Drakz regime. I'm not sure why it was chosen for the name of the "video game", but that's not here nor there.
It wouldn't do much good at all to split the fed in half as quick as people come and go. If it isn't broken, don't fix it.
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Post by sonstuds on Aug 17, 2007 10:49:46 GMT -5
There's like five guys on top, so how would reducing that and cutting your potential big feuds/matches in half help the WFWF at all?
Here's the problem with it. Ideally I'm assuming you're talking one show has the Tag Titles, so wouldn't by default CBT and I have to go to that roster? And if you're saying both shows should have Tag Titles, that's pretty redundant considering we barely need one set.
This just sounds to me like a draft for the sake of doing a draft.
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Post by CBT on Aug 17, 2007 11:29:18 GMT -5
Exactly what they said, I remember Blaze considering the idea, but considering he made no move on it. I'd presume he figured it not worth it.
The positives would be more guys on top.
But the negative would be, less new matches.
There's alot more to it than you'd think, and the negatives-positives would keep on coming.
Frankly, I wouldn't want any part of it, and would pull a Triple H.
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Post by Markw on Aug 17, 2007 11:34:40 GMT -5
I actually like the idea the thing is I agree that results would be slower but it could give maby other people more chance of improving there writing and writing some matches but I think that there is so many people on the house show I think it would give some of the better guys (Like Dane and Deville) bigger feuds which they deserve I think this would be good if done right
Edit: But I can't see it happening because nobody else likes the idea
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Post by Thunder on Aug 17, 2007 11:38:11 GMT -5
This would only really work if we had a much larger roster with a whole lot of main eventers. But the way it is now, it would just water down the shows and have the same few guys facing each other each week.
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Post by sonstuds on Aug 17, 2007 11:48:17 GMT -5
I actually like the idea the thing is I agree that results would be slower but it could give maby other people more chance of improving there writing and writing some matches but I think that there is so many people on the house show I think it would give some of the better guys (Like Dane and Deville) bigger feuds which they deserve I think this would be good if done right Edit: But I can't see it happening because nobody else likes the idea To go with your idea, that's why the HS should be optional after about three matches when the owners know if you're gonna roleplay or not, and if you do opt to roleplay in the HS more of an emphasis should be focused on the owner giving you advice (and respect to Blaze, but he doesn't really do that). This way you can have guys like PC and Dane going for the International title, opposed to Wayne McGurk holding it for like a decade even though he was arguably the best RPer in the WFWF at that time. Similar with Thunder who kind of has that "division" on lock down for the time being. |
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Post by Thunder on Aug 17, 2007 12:05:49 GMT -5
As far as the house shows go, there are some people there who should develop their RPs for awhile before moving up, but at the same time, there are also a lot of people that shoulds have been up awhile ago and still aren't on a regular basis. Ideally, guys should be moved up the main show as soon as they are ready, but doesn't seem to always happen that way. Use Deville as an example. He is one of the best RPers here if not the best but he's still booked on the house shows regularly instead of just being on FDS.
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Post by sonstuds on Aug 17, 2007 14:10:34 GMT -5
As far as the house shows go, there are some people there who should develop their RPs for awhile before moving up, but at the same time, there are also a lot of people that shoulds have been up awhile ago and still aren't on a regular basis. Ideally, guys should be moved up the main show as soon as they are ready, but doesn't seem to always happen that way. Use Deville as an example. He is one of the best RPers here if not the best but he's still booked on the house shows regularly instead of just being on FDS. Exactly my point. With the way the HS is set up we already basically have two brands. I may be wrong, but I'm under the impression HS is supposed to be the WFDC (Development Centre) with a different name. It's kind of steered away from that. |
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Post by zombiesx on Aug 17, 2007 14:18:03 GMT -5
I dont really like the idea as I would be probably with fds, And lets face it not a good idea. So no I dont like the idea.
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Post by ZMaster on Aug 17, 2007 15:09:23 GMT -5
When I was owner teaming with FLAPS, we had two shows at the time Code Red and Hybrid and it never involved splitting the rosters up. I don't believe a brand split would work and I've not seen too many feds that it actually works in. The rosters could potentially become imbalanced as some will see one show as the major league and the other as the minor league.
The House Shows are more or less a WFDC style based upon the booking and what's going on. I'd say no split but if you want to add another show, that's fine. Just do it the way we did it as an idea, if you're not booked on one show, try to get booked on the other. That's my 2 cents.
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Post by thesouthsidekid on Aug 17, 2007 15:32:05 GMT -5
I actually like the idea the thing is I agree that results would be slower but it could give maby other people more chance of improving there writing and writing some matches but I think that there is so many people on the house show I think it would give some of the better guys (Like Dane and Deville) bigger feuds which they deserve I think this would be good if done right Edit: But I can't see it happening because nobody else likes the idea To go with your idea, that's why the HS should be optional after about three matches when the owners know if you're gonna roleplay or not, and if you do opt to roleplay in the HS more of an emphasis should be focused on the owner giving you advice (and respect to Blaze, but he doesn't really do that). This way you can have guys like PC and Dane going for the International title, opposed to Wayne McGurk holding it for like a decade even though he was arguably the best RPer in the WFWF at that time. Similar with Thunder who kind of has that "division" on lock down for the time being. Well that is until I decide I want my belt back. |
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Post by Calvin on Aug 17, 2007 19:03:31 GMT -5
While i was at work today i had an idea for the WFWF. There seems to be a lot of people in the house show and a lot of big guys up top, so i thought of an idea about a brand split. Much like WWE has go with 3 seperate rosters, only WFWF Will have 2. One Felo de se and the other Odium (name of the video game). Have the owner of felo de se and boss of it and house show boss as Odium or him to come up with his own name. Then have a draft where the guys take it in turns to pick members to go on there roster. For titles there could be one world title that both shows fight for and separate titles for each show like tag titles and other mid card titles like a international title and hardcore title. PPVs could be joint hosted and have some inter promotional battles and same shows matches. So instead of having all the top dogs all on one show, it would be mixed aswel as hs guys being able to fight along with the top dogs. Thats my idea, what do people think and is there a chance it could happen? A, we dont' have enough people.. B, we dont' have enough great people to make two shows. C, it'll end up making late results....but later then what we have going now...(hint hint) D, Drafts suck because they'd never work out. Either all the good people would end up on one roster...or one show woudl die due to inactivity. E, we don't have enough people to make new titles. Back in the day, when we had like 40 people in the WFWF< the FLAPS era, we pulled off the two shows. Thing is, FLAPS got lazy and never wrote results....making everyone basically leave. Half the people on the house shows will be gone in a month. Oh and one last thing, we pretty much already ahve two shows....look at all the titles HS have now.... |
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Post by CBT on Aug 17, 2007 22:24:42 GMT -5
Back in the day, when we had like 40 people in the WFWF< the FLAPS era, we pulled off the two shows. Thing is, FLAPS got lazy and never wrote results....making everyone basically leave. Half the people on the house shows will be gone in a month. Oh and one last thing, we pretty much already ahve two shows....look at all the titles HS have now.... I agree, back in the day like Fall of 04 to Fall of 05, this would have been an ingenius surprise. Could have even been bigger and better than the tour happening. I mean I remember Kyzer coming in sometime around the tour, he to me is alot like Deville, and either could be a sleeper draft pick if someone with ideas was making the choices. During that time we could have easily had Code Red and Hybrid Rosters split, had a draft with ZM manning Hybrid and Flaps manning Code Red. Code Red Michael Kyzer Hybrid Drakz Code Red World Champion Johnny Michaels- Flaps would later realize that he screwed himself out of a pick. Hybrid Man of the Hour Josh Code Red Tag Team Champion Obo Hybrid Tag Team Champion Percy Code Red Holocaust member Cecil Caster Hybrid Holocaust member Reverend Shadow Code Red Master of Destruction Hybrid Total Apocalypse Code Red Ray Smith Hybrid Tha CBT Code Red Immune- Because Flaps had a man crush on him.  Hybrid National Champion Macabre Code Red Calvin Lee- to throw people off Hybrid Yukio Blaze- to counter it Code Red Meg Warner Hybrid Women's Champion Jade- Great swerve plus two personalities that could mix it up with the guys. Code Red Final Pick- Justa Mazing. Flaps would scoop him up if he was available, plus a feud with Josh was foreshadowed but to my knowledge, it never got off the ground. So that could be some cross-promoting feud. TZ had an ego but wasn't shabby and would probably give that brand instant credibility. Hybrid Final Pick- ZMaster would think long and hard about his choices and among talking to a former World Champion who is in the midst of a comeback, I could see Slayer going to Hybrid much akin to J-Mazing, looking for another shot at glory. :Condensed Draft Results: Code Red 1. Michael Kyzer 2. World Champion Johnny Michaels 3. Tag Team Champion Obo 4. Holocaust member Cecil Caster 5. Master of Destruction 6. Ray Smith 7. Immune 8. Calvin Lee 9. Meg Warner 10. Justa Mazing Hybrid 1. Drakz 2. Man of the Hour Josh 3. Tag Team Champion Percy 4. Holocaust member Reverend Shadow 5. Total Apocalypse 6. Tha CBT 7. National Champion Macabre 8. Yukio Blaze 9. Women's Champion Jade 10. Slayer Rest can be draft lottery.  |
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Post by Calvin on Aug 17, 2007 22:30:18 GMT -5
I actually like the idea the thing is I agree that results would be slower but it could give maby other people more chance of improving there writing and writing some matches but I think that there is so many people on the house show I think it would give some of the better guys (Like Dane and Deville) bigger feuds which they deserve I think this would be good if done right Edit: But I can't see it happening because nobody else likes the idea Dane and Deville shouldn't be on the HS... |
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Aug 17, 2007 22:36:00 GMT -5
Jeeze Louise Papa Cheese.... I wasn't drafted in your draft Ceebee? That was around the time that I was fresh off losing my International Title/Tag Titles... OR was it around the time of the end of ATM? Still... I feel left out...  Just kidding  |
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Post by CBT on Aug 17, 2007 22:46:59 GMT -5
Jeeze Louise Papa Cheese.... I wasn't drafted in your draft Ceebee? That was around the time that I was fresh off losing my International Title/Tag Titles... OR was it around the time of the end of ATM? Still... I feel left out... Just kidding Draft lottery along with Ganador, Jaysin the One, and The Clown. ;D |
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Post by Markw on Aug 18, 2007 0:53:03 GMT -5
I actually like the idea the thing is I agree that results would be slower but it could give maby other people more chance of improving there writing and writing some matches but I think that there is so many people on the house show I think it would give some of the better guys (Like Dane and Deville) bigger feuds which they deserve I think this would be good if done right Edit: But I can't see it happening because nobody else likes the idea Dane and Deville shouldn't be on the HS... I Know |
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Post by thesouthsidekid on Aug 18, 2007 17:15:00 GMT -5
In all seriousness, I think that what CBT was diagraming would be about the best way to do it if we were to attempt a brand split. And as for someone saying that we have a lack of Main Eventers, that's why you move some of them up to around that place on the card and see how they respond.
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Post by cureforthesickness on Aug 19, 2007 0:50:01 GMT -5
Dane and Deville shouldn't be on the HS... I Know neither should you, either |
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