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Post by rkmo: Cheats & Geeks on Sept 18, 2023 14:27:56 GMT -5
I was just thinking about how Smackdown just had JOHN CENA and THE ROCK and AJ STYLES on it and I still wouldn't even consider tuning in. I will say to you, there is no individual or group of talents, incoming nor outgoing, that will encourage me to watch WWE.
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Post by The American Daydream on Sept 18, 2023 16:09:41 GMT -5
Women's wrestling of today will never touch the numbers of the bra and panties era. Good for a pee break though.
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Post by rkmo: Cheats & Geeks on Sept 18, 2023 23:45:56 GMT -5
Women's wrestling of today will never touch the numbers of the bra and panties era. Good for a pee break though. And?
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Post by Mongo Bears on Sept 19, 2023 6:13:36 GMT -5
T&A and Steroids
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Post by MKSavage on Sept 19, 2023 8:31:09 GMT -5
and some of this: maybe a little of that: and a lot more of this... Now that is good wrestling...
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Post by The American Daydream on Sept 19, 2023 9:24:39 GMT -5
Women's wrestling of today will never touch the numbers of the bra and panties era. Good for a pee break though. And? And a poo break?
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Sept 19, 2023 15:19:38 GMT -5
Wrestlers are already on steroids lol
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Post by Mongo Bears on Sept 19, 2023 15:31:12 GMT -5
Wrestlers are already on steroids lol Not enough.
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Post by Mongo Bears on Sept 19, 2023 15:32:02 GMT -5
Also more celebrities involved who donβt break kayfabe
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Post by 2sweeeeet on Sept 19, 2023 15:42:34 GMT -5
Weight divisions, win/loss records, wrestling more in the style of guys like Chad Gable/Gunther/Rey Mysterio (no, I don't mean they are all the same ), better and more unique set designs and logos, better belts (I know that may sound weird but they all suck right now and the WHC sucks the least - all just my opinion of course - would prefer belts more like what WCW had in the '90s), more realistic feuds/more interesting storylines (and don't stretch them out for the sake of a result at a specific event - make every PLE feel like it could be the moment for a big storyline), replace the tag division with lucha style trios, and get rid Nia/Charlotte/Becky/Bayley/Natalya. That's all I can think of right now, and I'm not going to front, I do have the top 10 videos playing in the background each week of Raw and Smackdown (and occasionally NXT) and have the PLEs on in the background, but it's more just to have something on in the background and I guess a little FOMO regarding big moments.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Sept 19, 2023 18:00:19 GMT -5
Wrestlers are already on steroids lol Not enough. Most wrestlers are on something. I think the amount of guys that aren't are much smaller than the guys that are.
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Post by shanieomaniac on Sept 19, 2023 22:29:11 GMT -5
Did... did you seriously just call Bayley and Becky Lynch ugly?
And are people in this thread really saying that the show needs more T&A to be worth watching?
I mean, I don't really know what to think from a forum where one of my earliest memories was basically being told I should leave simply because I was a woman but come on. Women's wrestling has the potential to be just as good as the men's if the women were just given a chance. Having T&A for the sake of T&A is something that wrestling is far better without and adding bra and panties matches back in WWE isn't going to bring them any more of a massive additional profit margin than having the Nitro Girls on the show saved WCW. It comes down to the fundamentals of the product. The talent, the wrestling, the stories. The Bloodline Saga pulled a ton of people in because it was compelling and made for something interesting to talk about around the watercooler. Then the whole storyline fizzled and, as said, not even having The Rock and Cena on the same show makes Smackdown seem interesting at this point.
Meanwhile, the Gable/Gunther match on Raw was amazing and had all sorts of people talking. And the Becky/Trish match was in the top 2 matches of the night for Payback.
Bottom line is, if you are bringing in people like Cena and The Rock for 10 minute spots, people are only going to watch those 10 minutes and, frankly, you can see those 10 minutes anytime you want after the show on YT. If you are bringing back mud wrestling matches in the hopes of people watching the show for that, people will also only watch those 10 minutes.
You want people to tune into the entire show, you need to make the entire product worth consumption. And right now, they just aren't doing that. Too many talents and matches per card are becoming the "pee break" sections and once you reach the point where 3/4ths of the show is better spent in the bathroom? Then why bother tuning in at all.
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