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Post by bWo on Aug 9, 2023 13:31:10 GMT -5
How quickly we forget Stardust. Is Cody over because he's in WWE or because he was in AEW? Cody was a joke in the eyes of WWE and WWE fans when he was there before. Even when Cody was in AEW he was considered a loser in a minor league company. Now that he's back he's the biggest star in the world? Funny how that works. Yes. You had to edit that post? I'm guessing spelling mistake?
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Post by bWo on Aug 9, 2023 14:23:28 GMT -5
How quickly we forget Stardust. Is Cody over because he's in WWE or because he was in AEW? Cody was a joke in the eyes of WWE and WWE fans when he was there before. Even when Cody was in AEW he was considered a loser in a minor league company. Now that he's back he's the biggest star in the world? Funny how that works. I believe that Cody made himself valuable on the indies and his work across the world compounded with the start up of AEW made him a star. The star power is/was debatable but he was the top guy in AEW from the jump and the fans loved him with a passion. Cody didn’t fo himself many favors that last year or so in AEW but I think it was the perfect mixture when he returned.. former WWE star, Dusty’s son, the first guy to jump from AEW to WWE and it just so happened he was an EVP over there and was a completely different character/performer than he was last time WWE fans saw him. Plus I think the Mania crowd and Raw after mania crowd reacting the way they did helped set the tone for other crowds But it is funny how it all worked out Cody wasn't the EVP of the indies though. He was the EVP of AEW. If AEW didn't exist do you think Cody is going from Japan/NWA/indies to winning the Rumble and headlining Mania and Summerslam? I think it's pretty clear that Vince wanted him because it would hurt AEW whether it worked out with Cody or he was Dashing Cody Rhodes a month after coming back. Is that something Vince would do? Absolutely, 100% without a doubt. WWE fans acting like they were missing and waiting for Cody this whole time is what's questionable. He was a HHH wannabe in a garbage company that was in competition with WWE's developmental company............. Until he came back. Then all of a sudden people thought he was good enough to take the title from Roman and end his streak.
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Post by Codyverse: Tag Team Champion on Aug 9, 2023 14:29:37 GMT -5
I believe that Cody made himself valuable on the indies and his work across the world compounded with the start up of AEW made him a star. The star power is/was debatable but he was the top guy in AEW from the jump and the fans loved him with a passion. Cody didn’t fo himself many favors that last year or so in AEW but I think it was the perfect mixture when he returned.. former WWE star, Dusty’s son, the first guy to jump from AEW to WWE and it just so happened he was an EVP over there and was a completely different character/performer than he was last time WWE fans saw him. Plus I think the Mania crowd and Raw after mania crowd reacting the way they did helped set the tone for other crowds But it is funny how it all worked out Cody wasn't the EVP of the indies though. He was the EVP of AEW. If AEW didn't exist do you think Cody is going from Japan/NWA/indies to winning the Rumble and headlining Mania and Summerslam? I think it's pretty clear that Vince wanted him because it would hurt AEW whether it worked out with Cody or he was Dashing Cody Rhodes a month after coming back. Is that something Vince would do? Absolutely, 100% without a doubt. WWE fans acting like they were missing and waiting for Cody this whole time is what's questionable. He was a HHH wannabe in a garbage company that was in competition with WWE's developmental company............. Until he came back. Then all of a sudden people thought he was good enough to take the title from Roman and end his streak. I mean… I get what you’re saying but Jinder Mahal was WWE champion. Drew was playing air guitar years ago looking like a dork and he beat Brock clean to win the WWE title. I highly doubt Cody would’ve came back if there was even a chance they’d sh*t all over him like they did in the past. What I find the most interesting is the knock on Cody is usually “he’s a midcard guy” but you know what? So was Mr Perfect and Razor Ramon. Plenty of legends never held the title and fans still wish they did but that’s just how it all plays out. Cody is good enough and he’s proving it. Regardless of how he got here and what small fraction of internet fans think, he’s the top babyface in wrestling and he’s on his way to win the WWE title. If fans turn on him, so be it. The vocal minority already tried that earlier this year and it didn’t work. Some fans were trying soooo hard to make Sami the guy and what happened? Sami and Cody shared the ring together and not only did they not boo Cody, they were chanting “Cody” And who’s to really say that Cody wouldn’t be in this situation or doing something similar if not for AEW? He was still the hottest ticket in the indies. Drew wasn’t in AEW and like I said, went from playing air guitar to WWE champion. Just remember… anything can happen in the World Wrestling Federation!
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Post by CM Tusk on Aug 9, 2023 14:33:49 GMT -5
Was a big Cody fan during his first WWE run, even as Stardust. Enjoyed his indies/ROH/NJPW/NWA run. Hated his AEW run. He felt like John Cena and that felt so out of place in that company. I think he’s fit perfectly since coming back to the Fed. He left, added value to his name, and came back bigger than ever.
Had AEW not happened, I’d still be all in (no pun) on him beating Roman and being the first WWE Champion Rhodes. As a fan of Dusty and Dustin, it all works for me.
He is HIM, no matter how much you kick and scream against it.
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Post by The American Daydream on Aug 9, 2023 20:04:15 GMT -5
You had to edit that post? I'm guessing spelling mistake? There was more, just didn't want you to cry anymore than you already do.
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Post by bWo on Aug 9, 2023 20:17:59 GMT -5
You had to edit that post? I'm guessing spelling mistake? There was more, just didn't want you to cry anymore than you already do. Too afraid to debate huh? Not surprised. Oh well. At least you still have these rocking put downs............
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Post by rkmo: Cheats & Geeks on Aug 9, 2023 20:28:58 GMT -5
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Aug 11, 2023 10:11:15 GMT -5
I mean he literally is though. You are even saying yourself that it is not Cena-like. How could you correct him, but then also say he's not wrong? That doesn't even make any sense. rkmo said Cody egregiously went over in his AEW run. That is just simply not true. His entire feud with Darby was set up to have Darby go over in the end. MJF's entire heel run is base doff of turning on Cody and BEATING him. And Cody put Sammy over clean on his way out. I just can't see how he egregiously dominated the roster like Cena. uh, yeah no that's not what i said. cena put over Owens, only to then return and beat him. how many times did Cody do that? Brody, Malakai? that's just off the top of my head. Was he supposed to lose every single feud he was involved in?
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Post by The American Daydream on Aug 11, 2023 14:31:02 GMT -5
There was more, just didn't want you to cry anymore than you already do. Too afraid to debate huh? Not surprised. Oh well. At least you still have these rocking put downs............ Debating facts is for Politicians.....................
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Post by k5 on Aug 11, 2023 20:28:55 GMT -5
uh, yeah no that's not what i said. cena put over Owens, only to then return and beat him. how many times did Cody do that? Brody, Malakai? that's just off the top of my head. Was he supposed to lose every single feud he was involved in? even when he lost, he was putting himself over. he had some good moments, I was even a fan when most weren’t any more, but he had a definite pattern of self serving antics masked as noble pursuits the fans didn’t turn on him for no reason…
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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 15, 2023 17:22:31 GMT -5
I am so sick & tired of the Cody Rhodes & LA Knight bandwagon.
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Post by shanieomaniac on Aug 26, 2023 2:27:51 GMT -5
Ok, so, my thoughts on Cody Rhodes being the one to dethrone Roman.
Or rather, not my thoughts.
These are the thoughts of someone, or rather TWO people who have IRL lived the situation that Jey Uso (and Sami Zayn) were portrayed in and are viewing the storyline from that perspective.
Would it be great for the narcissistic abuser's victims to be the one to topple him? Sure, and what a moment it would be.
But the thing about escaping a NPD Abusive environment is that you can NOT base your new life without them on your life with them. You have to fully cut ties and escape, move on, and never look back. That's the only true way to heal from that situation.
It would have been awesome to see Sami or Jey be the ones to finish the story. But really, the person to topple Roman needs to be someone who saw them for the abuser they were the whole time and, when they take him down, don't have any baggage attached to that victory. If Jey or Sami were the ones to beat Roman, that's what it would have been. They'd have been "the one to beat Roman" something that from an abuse survivor's perspective isn't the best thing for a person who went through that. Revenge really isn't as cathartic as people think it is and, really, it just leaves you empty.
I wanted it to be Jey until I talked with these people about it. Now, I agree. It should be Cody. Cody should be the one to dethrone Roman at whatever their next encounter is and Jey and Sami (and hopefully someday Jimmy and Solo) can go on to build legacies unconnected to Roman Reigns and his NPD bullsh*t.
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Post by Nick Papagiorgio on Sept 16, 2023 23:17:03 GMT -5
Ok, so, my thoughts on Cody Rhodes being the one to dethrone Roman. Or rather, not my thoughts. These are the thoughts of someone, or rather TWO people who have IRL lived the situation that Jey Uso (and Sami Zayn) were portrayed in and are viewing the storyline from that perspective. Would it be great for the narcissistic abuser's victims to be the one to topple him? Sure, and what a moment it would be. But the thing about escaping a NPD Abusive environment is that you can NOT base your new life without them on your life with them. You have to fully cut ties and escape, move on, and never look back. That's the only true way to heal from that situation. It would have been awesome to see Sami or Jey be the ones to finish the story. But really, the person to topple Roman needs to be someone who saw them for the abuser they were the whole time and, when they take him down, don't have any baggage attached to that victory. If Jey or Sami were the ones to beat Roman, that's what it would have been. They'd have been "the one to beat Roman" something that from an abuse survivor's perspective isn't the best thing for a person who went through that. Revenge really isn't as cathartic as people think it is and, really, it just leaves you empty. I wanted it to be Jey until I talked with these people about it. Now, I agree. It should be Cody. Cody should be the one to dethrone Roman at whatever their next encounter is and Jey and Sami (and hopefully someday Jimmy and Solo) can go on to build legacies unconnected to Roman Reigns and his NPD bullsh*t. I agree with that and look at it this way, once Cody Rhodes beats Roman Reigns the WWE will have another full time World Champion and Cody Rhodes looks and acts the part of a main eventer. You can send Cody Rhodes to do the media rounds and ticket presales with the WWE Championship. He is the WWE's number one babyface.
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Post by J-MANN: Tag Team Champion on Sept 17, 2023 20:17:51 GMT -5
Cody trying to “finish the story” at WM 57
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Sept 17, 2023 20:21:24 GMT -5
I can't wait for him to finish his story and be the Champ
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Post by rkmo: Cheats & Geeks on Sept 17, 2023 20:39:36 GMT -5
Cody being like GRRM in this piece
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Sept 17, 2023 22:17:42 GMT -5
We still need Cody vs Orton and Cody vs Cena
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Post by The American Daydream on Sept 18, 2023 16:10:49 GMT -5
I can't wait for him to win the WHC while Rock dethrones Roman 😆
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Post by Nick Papagiorgio on Sept 18, 2023 23:22:20 GMT -5
I can't wait for him to win the WHC while Rock dethrones Roman 😆 That isn't happening.
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Post by Liquid Swordsman on Sept 19, 2023 4:51:03 GMT -5
Ok, so, my thoughts on Cody Rhodes being the one to dethrone Roman. Or rather, not my thoughts. These are the thoughts of someone, or rather TWO people who have IRL lived the situation that Jey Uso (and Sami Zayn) were portrayed in and are viewing the storyline from that perspective. Would it be great for the narcissistic abuser's victims to be the one to topple him? Sure, and what a moment it would be. But the thing about escaping a NPD Abusive environment is that you can NOT base your new life without them on your life with them. You have to fully cut ties and escape, move on, and never look back. That's the only true way to heal from that situation. It would have been awesome to see Sami or Jey be the ones to finish the story. But really, the person to topple Roman needs to be someone who saw them for the abuser they were the whole time and, when they take him down, don't have any baggage attached to that victory. If Jey or Sami were the ones to beat Roman, that's what it would have been. They'd have been "the one to beat Roman" something that from an abuse survivor's perspective isn't the best thing for a person who went through that. Revenge really isn't as cathartic as people think it is and, really, it just leaves you empty. I wanted it to be Jey until I talked with these people about it. Now, I agree. It should be Cody. Cody should be the one to dethrone Roman at whatever their next encounter is and Jey and Sami (and hopefully someday Jimmy and Solo) can go on to build legacies unconnected to Roman Reigns and his NPD bullsh*t. I think another important thing we need to look at it from here is that Roman is also like a crime boss. He's not going down easily while he has his organization still operating. He's Nino Brown from New Jack City, Franklin Saint from Snowfall and EZ Reyes from Mayans MC. All shared similar traits, but also had flaws that eventually led to their downfall. Those that were close to them were driven away or they eventually turned on them because of the decisions they were making. Now, if Jey and Sami were portrayed as more serious heels and all they cared about was power, then dethroning Roman would probably make more sense for them. Kind of like something you would see in crime shows or mafia movies. It's another reason why I believe Cody is perfect to dethrone him because now he's doing something no other competitor has yet to do against Roman. He's targeting the organization first before going after the person in charge and he's using business tactics to do it. (Or so it seems, WWE could change this) But most importantly, he saw the bloodline at their most vulnerable position and took advantage by bringing Jey to Raw while also creating an ally within him. Cody's EVP background could open up room for a lot potential. He's almost like a corrupted politician or government official with mafia ties from a show/movie. And if it's anything I've learned from playing Mafia 3's story is that if you want to bring down the person in charge, you take out the men and the infrastructure they're standing on. Which is why I thought Cody being responsible for Jey coming to Raw was smart writing. Now, long term, whether WWE screw this up remains to be seen, but so far, the momentum is looking good.
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