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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Oct 19, 2021 16:43:38 GMT -5
Punks return to wrestling is possibly one of the greatest moments of the modern era. However after his Darby match it has all went downhill. He should be an attraction who rarely wrestles for free and mostly on PPV's and he also needs a good feud to get his teeth into.
I know it's still early days but instead of wrestling random matches against mid carders like Matt Sydal he should have more of a Brock Lesnar vibe about him.
It's making him feel less special.
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Post by k5 on Oct 19, 2021 16:53:47 GMT -5
I mean, that’s one take.
I personally don’t see the least bit of a problem with how he’s been booked. he’s picking his timing and edging his way, but soon enough a feud will embroil him and he’ll unleash the sardonic and wrathful side.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2021 19:35:41 GMT -5
Regardless of how anyone may feel about it, Punk has a lot of influence on his booking. Ie, this is the way he wants to tell his story. People can still not like it of course.
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Post by berealnicknaro on Oct 19, 2021 23:24:29 GMT -5
I have to imagine he specifically doesn’t want to be a Brock style part time attraction considering how against it he was all those years ago.
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Post by bige on Oct 19, 2021 23:56:08 GMT -5
He said if he came back he would be a full time he’s just gonna move through the roster to I reckon a feud with mjf some time early next year
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Post by vampiroporvida on Oct 20, 2021 8:27:38 GMT -5
He is trying to elevate talent. He has a real positive outlook this time around, and his matches, the best I can tell, is to shine eyes on the people he thinks are stars. I mean, Daniel Garcia I thought was odd, but he seems to be pretty highly regarded. The man had a match with MiSu. Punk may not be able to be that full timer with non stop cardio anymore, so he is that Silent Bob type, when he "speaks" it means something.
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Post by CM Tusk on Oct 20, 2021 8:31:59 GMT -5
I’ve liked it so far, but I’m waiting for him to have actual direction outside “I’m just happy to be here.” Thought the match with Hobbs would lead to a whole feud with Team Taz. I imagine based on the rumored Full Gear match that something more substantial is just around the corner.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2021 21:58:57 GMT -5
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Post by Evil Abed on Oct 20, 2021 22:07:34 GMT -5
Ive enjoyed his time so far. I think right now having him work with younger guys is the best thing for AEW. If we were going on name value alone, he’d be going after the AEW title which I would absolutely rather see Hangman/Omega right now so im ok with what he’s doing. I do think at some point sooner rather than later he’s going to get the likes of MJF, Cole, Young Bucks which would hopefully be considered higher level matches.
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Post by LK3 on Oct 21, 2021 4:15:50 GMT -5
I think he needs some time to reacclimate himself to things. So it's still the "lovefest" on a weekly basis. Once he/they are ready to ramp things up, I think it'll be really good. The fact that he's on my TV every week and wrestling random matches is still pretty wild.
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Post by TKO Propagandist on Oct 21, 2021 6:12:53 GMT -5
He has to make up for lost time. He is not a part timer. He has come in during the middle of a year. Wrestlers can't skip the line & instantly get world title shots. They need to build up wins which is what he is doing. Not wrestling every week so it's still special.
Some weeks on commentary is fine to keep a precense on the show. It's only 1 day a week why stay at home like Brock when he wants to be there. It's only the beginning & it's been booked fine so far. We'll get to the big matches, title runs but you can't keep cut the line in AEW.
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Post by kinnikuman on Oct 21, 2021 7:41:02 GMT -5
He also needs to bjuild up his stanima and work rate before he gets put in main events. It'll come. Be patient. He'll main event again.
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Post by Bandalero on Oct 21, 2021 7:59:31 GMT -5
I think AEW and Punk are handling his booking perfectly. He's in a veteran role and racking up wins because there's a thread of importance surrounding that troupe. And he's doing it in a way that's not burying any of the young talent, it's actually giving them some much needed spotlight time - their futures are still ahead of them and bright with a rub like this.
I fully expect him to get into a meaty feud next year, hopefully against MJF to keep with the whole veteran vs. young blood thread he's weaving into his fabric of storytelling.
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Post by Next Man’s Yeeter on Nov 3, 2021 0:49:53 GMT -5
It’s awful, but it’s not like there are many alternatives. “Happy to be here” CM Punk doesn’t play to any of his strengths, doesn’t help any of his nobody opponents become stars, and exposes that he’s struggling to keep up. But he can’t do his iconic bitter emo teen gimmick (or his smug straight edge character) in AEW anyway without being a bad guy - and he’s perpetually a good guy to the AEW fanbase. If Kenny and the Bucks upped their game and became real heels, Punk feuding with them could possibly work well. Or maybe even better, if he feuded with Cody, as there’s more real life stuff for “pipebomb” content there.
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Nov 3, 2021 11:48:21 GMT -5
I'm just glad they didn't immediately put a title on him. I would live to see a hour long 4 way match between Punk, Omega, Danielson & MJF.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Nov 3, 2021 22:51:28 GMT -5
I wouldn't say it's horrible, but he needs an actual feud soon. It looks like him and Kingston are going to feud for a bit, so at least that's something.
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Post by East Coast on Nov 4, 2021 12:09:56 GMT -5
I like it in theory. But not in practice. Its especially harder to swallow watching Punk struggle against low-mid carders, when guys like Edge/Christian have returned from much longer hiatuses and they are in the best shape of their lives and wrestling at a level maybe even better than they were before they left.
The buildup to Darby/Punk was good. And Punk made Darby for sure, just on the mic. but that was the problem. They didn't even need to have the match. The job was done before they even got in the ring. And since that match both are in a worse position than they were beforehand. AEW hasn't capitalized on any juice they had from that match.
And since then Punk has done nothing to raise his opponents. None of them are in a better spot for having gotten the rub from Punk. Eddie might get something. Since he's also coming off the Daniel Bryan rub. And he's a veteran who's a little smarter to the business. But so far the Punk thing is a huge win for ppl that just wanted some throwaway matches against ppl you never thought you would see him face. And a big L for Punks return being a big deal.
in WWE Punk would be feuding with Roman Reigns. Or Seth Rollins.
he wouldn't be having weekly matches vs. Lince Dorado and Riddick Moss. He would be back to being a megastar.
Of course i realize this is what Punk most likely wants or is happy with at the moment. It just sucks when you know in the other company he could be facing Brock Lesnar in main events right now if he wanted.
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Post by k5 on Nov 4, 2021 12:30:40 GMT -5
I like it in theory. But not in practice. Its especially harder to swallow watching Punk struggle against low-mid carders, when guys like Edge/Christian have returned from much longer hiatuses and they are in the best shape of their lives and wrestling at a level maybe even better than they were before they left. The buildup to Darby/Punk was good. And Punk made Darby for sure, just on the mic. but that was the problem. They didn't even need to have the match. The job was done before they even got in the ring. And since that match both are in a worse position than they were beforehand. AEW hasn't capitalized on any juice they had from that match. And since then Punk has done nothing to raise his opponents. None of them are in a better spot for having gotten the rub from Punk. Eddie might get something. Since he's also coming off the Daniel Bryan rub. And he's a veteran who's a little smarter to the business. But so far the Punk thing is a huge win for ppl that just wanted some throwaway matches against ppl you never thought you would see him face. And a big L for Punks return being a big deal. in WWE Punk would be feuding with Roman Reigns. Or Seth Rollins. he wouldn't be having weekly matches vs. Lince Dorado and Riddick Moss. He would be back to being a megastar. Of course i realize this is what Punk most likely wants or is happy with at the moment. It just sucks when you know in the other company he could be facing Brock Lesnar in main events right now if he wanted. I guess it matters on taste too. i don’t have any interest in seeing him against lesnar or Rollins - admittedly a Reigns feud would be something to see just as punk would destroy Roman on the mic like he used to do to Cena. I’ve never seen a guy on his level come back and not just assume a top role. he’s literally plying his way through the company, IMO elevating his opponents hugely with the biggest matches of their careers to date, and when he does start a feud it’s going to mean something mox/punk could be a biggie. Cody/Punk, Cole/Punk, etc.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Nov 4, 2021 14:00:13 GMT -5
CM Punk has been out of the game for 7 years and is 43 years old. He doesn't exactly have the time to waste to wrestle 3 times a year, nor does he WANT to be a "Brock Lesnar" type attraction.
CM Punk wants to wrestle. He wants to have great matches, and he wants to give back to the business and help out younger talent.
And AEW has stayed away from that "attraction" type strategy that WWE uses, and I think it has served AEW well. AEW has a much more well rounded roster where almost EVERYONE can can be taken seriously or jump into a major feud at any time without having to have a significant amount of build up and story telling.
WWE, on the other hand, has like 3 guys on their roster that they book around, and then an entire roster full of wrestlers who never get any attention. That's why WWE constantly has to keep going back to guys like Cena, Lesnar, and GOLDBERG of all people in 2021 almost 2022. Because WWE has no potential "dream matches" on their roster. They've done the same matches between the same people over and over and over and over to death.
Lesnar vs Lashley is basically the only BIG match they could do, but they seem to be doing everything they can to avoid it,....and probably the inevitable Rock coming back to put over Reigns.
AEW has like dozens of dream matches and first time matchups that we've never seen. I think their strategy is much more entertaining than WWE's where the entire company revolves around 3-4 guys constantly. AEW is also still new. They don't have 60 years of brand recognition built up, so they also are more inclined to either want to or HAVE to give a little bit more away on free tv in order to draw in new fans.
People who haven't seen AEW yet and who maybe don't know who Omega, Darby, the Bucks, Sammy.....if they see a commercial that Punk, Danielson, Sting, etc are wrestling on Dynamite/Rampage....they've got a higher probability that those first time/causal fans will tune in for free. You can't really be like "hey, you don't know what AEW is, but please buy our PPV bc Punk"....you gotta showcase first.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Nov 4, 2021 17:22:09 GMT -5
I like it in theory. But not in practice. Its especially harder to swallow watching Punk struggle against low-mid carders, when guys like Edge/Christian have returned from much longer hiatuses and they are in the best shape of their lives and wrestling at a level maybe even better than they were before they left. The buildup to Darby/Punk was good. And Punk made Darby for sure, just on the mic. but that was the problem. They didn't even need to have the match. The job was done before they even got in the ring. And since that match both are in a worse position than they were beforehand. AEW hasn't capitalized on any juice they had from that match. And since then Punk has done nothing to raise his opponents. None of them are in a better spot for having gotten the rub from Punk. Eddie might get something. Since he's also coming off the Daniel Bryan rub. And he's a veteran who's a little smarter to the business. But so far the Punk thing is a huge win for ppl that just wanted some throwaway matches against ppl you never thought you would see him face. And a big L for Punks return being a big deal.
in WWE Punk would be feuding with Roman Reigns. Or Seth Rollins.
he wouldn't be having weekly matches vs. Lince Dorado and Riddick Moss. He would be back to being a megastar.Of course i realize this is what Punk most likely wants or is happy with at the moment. It just sucks when you know in the other company he could be facing Brock Lesnar in main events right now if he wanted. That's exactly how I feel. Someone like Punk shouldn't be fighting in random exhibition matches that mean absolutely nothing. His return is one of the biggest of the modern era so where are the big money matches? When Edge returned you didn't see him fightiing weekly against the likes of Otis and Happy Corbin.
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