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Post by crush on Mar 10, 2020 15:00:19 GMT -5
She hates wrestling - everything to do with it. There's absolutely no chance. She took part in the dark side of the ring episode Somehow I don’t think Martha appearing on a series that, literally in its title, discusses and criticizes the dark elements of the wrestling world is a sign that she’s a fan of the industry.
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Post by newgenandy on Mar 11, 2020 3:19:51 GMT -5
She took part in the dark side of the ring episode Somehow I don’t think Martha appearing on a series that, literally in its title, discusses and criticizes the dark elements of the wrestling world is a sign that she’s a fan of the industry. It shows she is willing to participate in wrestling activity - Jim Cornett who clearly is a wrestling fan participated (on shows he was a fan during the era of) Martha is also working with a documentary team who are doing a film on Owens life - non WWE affiliated She will participate as long as WWE are not involved
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2020 5:54:38 GMT -5
Somehow I don’t think Martha appearing on a series that, literally in its title, discusses and criticizes the dark elements of the wrestling world is a sign that she’s a fan of the industry. It shows she is willing to participate in wrestling activity - Jim Cornett who clearly is a wrestling fan participated (on shows he was a fan during the era of) Martha is also working with a documentary team who are doing a film on Owens life - non WWE affiliated She will participate as long as WWE are not involved Except she's been approached to make figures of Owen by companies that WEREN'T involved with WWE AND TURNED THEM DOWN.
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Post by Purple Reigns on Mar 11, 2020 8:02:19 GMT -5
She hates wrestling - everything to do with it. There's absolutely no chance. She took part in the dark side of the ring episode To talk about her husbands death. Doesn’t mean she likes wrestling.
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Post by newgenandy on Mar 11, 2020 14:55:08 GMT -5
It shows she is willing to participate in wrestling activity - Jim Cornett who clearly is a wrestling fan participated (on shows he was a fan during the era of) Martha is also working with a documentary team who are doing a film on Owens life - non WWE affiliated She will participate as long as WWE are not involved Except she's been approached to make figures of Owen by companies that WEREN'T involved with WWE AND TURNED THEM DOWN. In the past but things change I'm not saying she would - I'm just saying that the "there will never be an Owen figure because she said no in the past" is silly Bret said he wouldn't have anything to do with WWE and the DVD come out, he went in hof...things change I'm not saying there will or won't be one. I'm just saying never say never
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Post by newgenandy on Mar 11, 2020 14:55:50 GMT -5
She took part in the dark side of the ring episode To talk about her husbands death. Doesn’t mean she likes wrestling. But the documentary on Owens life isn't only about that one night it's his whole life and career
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2020 15:04:13 GMT -5
Except she's been approached to make figures of Owen by companies that WEREN'T involved with WWE AND TURNED THEM DOWN. In the past but things change I'm not saying she would - I'm just saying that the "there will never be an Owen figure because she said no in the past" is silly Bret said he wouldn't have anything to do with WWE and the DVD come out, he went in hof...things change I'm not saying there will or won't be one. I'm just saying never say never The problem with this is that people keep saying "well his wife did the Hall of Fame" or now I guess "she did Dark Side of the Ring" like it means anything has changed and it's a flawed line of thinking. Nothing she has done since the last Legends of Wrestling game came out 16 years ago has indicated she's going to let anyone make money off of her husband. If at any point she wanted to license Owen, she could have. She hasn't and nothing that's happened has given any indication that's going to change. Her doing the Dark Side of the Ring episode doesn't change anything. Also Bret did the DVD in 2005 because he saw the hit piece they did on Warrior and didn't want that to happen to him. The original title of that DVD was "Screwed: The Bret Hart Story" and once the word got out it was going to be a Self Destruction type DVD, he reached out to them, co-operated and we got the DVD that we did. Also, he allowed his image to be used in the Jakks WWE line and four video games (SvR, Day of Reckoning 1 and 2, WrestleMania 21) before that DVD came out and was on the announced roster for SvR 2006 which came out the same day as his DVD. It's a different scenario entirely and a really bad example to use. For like the 400th time, I loved Owen. I want a figure of him as bad as anyone, but it's not happening. Sometimes you just have to accept it and move on instead of thinking every company that jumps into the wrestling figure business has a chance of licensing a guy whose wife hasn't agreed to license his image for anything in over 15 years. The WWE DVD wasn't authorized by her, she spoke out against it. She doesn't want people making money off of Owen. I don't know how it can be put any clearer.
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Post by newgenandy on Mar 11, 2020 15:50:23 GMT -5
In the past but things change I'm not saying she would - I'm just saying that the "there will never be an Owen figure because she said no in the past" is silly Bret said he wouldn't have anything to do with WWE and the DVD come out, he went in hof...things change I'm not saying there will or won't be one. I'm just saying never say never The problem with this is that people keep saying "well his wife did the Hall of Fame" or now I guess "she did Dark Side of the Ring" like it means anything has changed and it's a flawed line of thinking. Nothing she has done since the last Legends of Wrestling game came out 16 years ago has indicated she's going to let anyone make money off of her husband. If at any point she wanted to license Owen, she could have. She hasn't and nothing that's happened has given any indication that's going to change. Her doing the Dark Side of the Ring episode doesn't change anything. Also Bret did the DVD in 2005 because he saw the hit piece they did on Warrior and didn't want that to happen to him. The original title of that DVD was "Screwed: The Bret Hart Story" and once the word got out it was going to be a Self Destruction type DVD, he reached out to them, co-operated and we got the DVD that we did. Also, he allowed his image to be used in the Jakks WWE line and four video games (SvR, Day of Reckoning 1 and 2, WrestleMania 21) before that DVD came out and was on the announced roster for SvR 2006 which came out the same day as his DVD. It's a different scenario entirely and a really bad example to use. For like the 400th time, I loved Owen. I want a figure of him as bad as anyone, but it's not happening. Sometimes you just have to accept it and move on instead of thinking every company that jumps into the wrestling figure business has a chance of licensing a guy whose wife hasn't agreed to license his image for anything in over 15 years. The WWE DVD wasn't authorized by her, she spoke out against it. She doesn't want people making money off of Owen. I don't know how it can be put any clearer. As mentioned and as you neglected to comment on last year she agreed to help with and participate in a film of his life. Including his wrestling career from stampede days to Japan, uk and USA. That's a pretty clear indication she is ok with celebrating his career as long as it's on terms and with people she is happy to work with
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Mar 13, 2020 17:40:37 GMT -5
The problem with this is that people keep saying "well his wife did the Hall of Fame" or now I guess "she did Dark Side of the Ring" like it means anything has changed and it's a flawed line of thinking. Nothing she has done since the last Legends of Wrestling game came out 16 years ago has indicated she's going to let anyone make money off of her husband. If at any point she wanted to license Owen, she could have. She hasn't and nothing that's happened has given any indication that's going to change. Her doing the Dark Side of the Ring episode doesn't change anything. Also Bret did the DVD in 2005 because he saw the hit piece they did on Warrior and didn't want that to happen to him. The original title of that DVD was "Screwed: The Bret Hart Story" and once the word got out it was going to be a Self Destruction type DVD, he reached out to them, co-operated and we got the DVD that we did. Also, he allowed his image to be used in the Jakks WWE line and four video games (SvR, Day of Reckoning 1 and 2, WrestleMania 21) before that DVD came out and was on the announced roster for SvR 2006 which came out the same day as his DVD. It's a different scenario entirely and a really bad example to use. For like the 400th time, I loved Owen. I want a figure of him as bad as anyone, but it's not happening. Sometimes you just have to accept it and move on instead of thinking every company that jumps into the wrestling figure business has a chance of licensing a guy whose wife hasn't agreed to license his image for anything in over 15 years. The WWE DVD wasn't authorized by her, she spoke out against it. She doesn't want people making money off of Owen. I don't know how it can be put any clearer. As mentioned and as you neglected to comment on last year she agreed to help with and participate in a film of his life. Including his wrestling career from stampede days to Japan, uk and USA. That's a pretty clear indication she is ok with celebrating his career as long as it's on terms and with people she is happy to work with His life was more than just his wrestling career.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Mar 24, 2020 8:20:16 GMT -5
Never in a million years is Martha Hart ever going to sign a deal with any wrestling promotion in the world.
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Post by EMW Figure Shelf on Mar 24, 2020 12:16:33 GMT -5
So correct me here if I am wrong, but Owen was in the Legends of Wrestling game series by Acclaim in the early 2000's. That was clearly signed off by Martha. If she green lit that, I am sure she wouldn't be opposed to anyone NON WWE to make something about Owen.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2020 16:55:46 GMT -5
These threads need to start being locked because it's just the same discourse and people don't want to listen. So correct me here if I am wrong, but Owen was in the Legends of Wrestling game series by Acclaim in the early 2000's. That was clearly signed off by Martha. If she green lit that, I am sure she wouldn't be opposed to anyone NON WWE to make something about Owen. Yes, she green-lit Acclaim using her husband in those games because they fought to both keep Owen in WWF Attitude and have a tribute graphic for him at the start of the game despite WWF not wanting either of those things.
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on Mar 24, 2020 22:00:33 GMT -5
No.
End of thread.
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Mar 25, 2020 16:49:49 GMT -5
These threads need to start being locked because it's just the same discourse and people don't want to listen. So correct me here if I am wrong, but Owen was in the Legends of Wrestling game series by Acclaim in the early 2000's. That was clearly signed off by Martha. If she green lit that, I am sure she wouldn't be opposed to anyone NON WWE to make something about Owen. Yes, she green-lit Acclaim using her husband in those games because they fought to both keep Owen in WWF Attitude and have a tribute graphic for him at the start of the game despite WWF not wanting either of those things. Also at that time they had different game contracts because there weren’t yearly releases. Bret was in War Zone well after Montreal because he had a deal with Acclaim so maybe those Legends games had Owen because of that and Martha just let the contract go because WWE wasn’t involved
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2020 17:36:39 GMT -5
These threads need to start being locked because it's just the same discourse and people don't want to listen. Yes, she green-lit Acclaim using her husband in those games because they fought to both keep Owen in WWF Attitude and have a tribute graphic for him at the start of the game despite WWF not wanting either of those things. Also at that time they had different game contracts because there weren’t yearly releases. Bret was in War Zone well after Montreal because he had a deal with Acclaim so maybe those Legends games had Owen because of that and Martha just let the contract go because WWE wasn’t involved If memory serves correctly--and this is based on stuff I heard well over 15 years ago but at one point was verified by a former Acclaim staffer--, Bret gave Acclaim her contact info after the first Legends game and they got in touch with her and she already trusted them because of what they'd done with keeping him and the tribute in Attitude. I think them fighting as hard as they did (one rumor I remember was the Owen situation with Acclaim is why Attitude repeatedly got delayed from the Spring 1999 release window to mid-late Summer) earned her respect. She hasn't licensed him for any other company since then, I don't understand why people on here think companies she's never had any dealings with are all of a sudden gonna get her to change her stance.
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Post by aboyes1989 on Mar 30, 2020 5:05:28 GMT -5
How is this still going?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 19:18:50 GMT -5
Martha is a witch hazel
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Mar 31, 2020 13:15:44 GMT -5
How dare a woman not let the people who killed her husband make money off his likeness
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 14:22:12 GMT -5
How dare a woman not let the people who killed her husband make money off his likeness Seriously I love how every Owen thread for the last two decades on the internet has boiled down to "How dare she not license her husband's likeness to people she has no history with who only want to use said likeness to make money off of her husband's legacy in a profession that directly caused her to be a widow and her kids to grow up without their father we need action figures godddammit" like get a ing grip y'all
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 14:43:20 GMT -5
How dare a woman not let the people who killed her husband make money off his likeness Bret said it best. She’s punishing people who are innocent, who made her set for life along with her children and their future children. We did nothing but love Owen perhaps in a different way but as much as she did. What’s the bitterness she harbors accomplishing? Celebrate what your husband did and don’t die a gray old woman.
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