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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on May 20, 2016 9:57:36 GMT -5
I don't watch TNA anymore, but I hope they don't go out of business. Sucks to be a wrestler and not really have many options in America to work. You can go to Lucha Underground or NJPW if you want to move to another country...but as far as living in America, WWE is really the only option.
Sucks for guys that get released from WWE, or even guys who don't want to work for TNA anymore if WWE won't take them. I hate to see people out of work. These guys and ladies have families and bills and they just want to work....but like I said, just not very many options. Would love to see a guy like Damien Sandow go to TNA and become a huge star ike EC3 did and then kinda be able to be like "Hey WWE, look what you missed out on".
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Post by IRS on May 20, 2016 12:16:56 GMT -5
... Hulk Hogan was on American Idol? Also, apparently my auto-correct is a Power Rangers fan, since it keeps trying to change 'Hulk' to 'Bulk'. Yeah a few years ago he had a quick segment with one of the contestants... Many fans were kind of annoyed he didn't at least mention them in some way. Would have been great free advertisement for a company that drastically needed it. Huh. Not really surprising, since he was obviously embarrassed of his time there. Yet, he was happy to scoop up all their money...
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Post by powerfred3k on May 20, 2016 12:29:25 GMT -5
Tna is getting 1/4 a million viewers on there show. The real question is how they were not already cancelled. Yes feel bad for all those that will lose there jobs, but it's tna's own fault.
The people who are owed money will have to take TNA to court to get paid. It's very sad, but yes just let TNA go....
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Post by J12 on May 20, 2016 12:37:09 GMT -5
Not sure why this is being dismissed as a rumor or something. Pop held their press conference discussing the upcoming fall TV schedule (as all major networks do this time of year), and they made absolutely zero mention of TNA.
Now, that doesn't mean that they're canceling it, but it does pretty strongly indicate that they've already lost interest in it, or feel that TNA has failed to hold up their end of the bargain (which they have, and we knew they would, because their goals were unrealistic.)
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Post by Next Man’s Yeeter on May 20, 2016 13:15:33 GMT -5
They need to just be a webshow and charge for the IPPVs like ROH did/does. I think TNA thinks its bigger than what it really is. That would be a terrible idea. Nobody buys their PPVs and nobody buys tickets to their shows. The only real revenue source they have is the pittance they get from these obscure TV networks.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on May 20, 2016 15:54:53 GMT -5
Not sure why this is being dismissed as a rumor or something. Pop held their press conference discussing the upcoming fall TV schedule (as all major networks do this time of year), and they made absolutely zero mention of TNA. Now, that doesn't mean that they're canceling it, but it does pretty strongly indicate that they've already lost interest in it, or feel that TNA has failed to hold up their end of the bargain (which they have, and we knew they would, because their goals were unrealistic.) I remember the president of POP wanted Spike ratings. It would have been possible IMO if TNA didn't already lose so many fans from the Destination America. There are signs POP already lost interest. First sign was the removal of the replays. They're also late (again) on paying their production people
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Post by J12 on May 20, 2016 16:27:53 GMT -5
Not sure why this is being dismissed as a rumor or something. Pop held their press conference discussing the upcoming fall TV schedule (as all major networks do this time of year), and they made absolutely zero mention of TNA. Now, that doesn't mean that they're canceling it, but it does pretty strongly indicate that they've already lost interest in it, or feel that TNA has failed to hold up their end of the bargain (which they have, and we knew they would, because their goals were unrealistic.) I remember the president of POP wanted Spike ratings. It would have been possible IMO if TNA didn't already lose so many fans from the Destination America. There are signs POP already lost interest. First sign was the removal of the replays. They're also late (again) on paying their production people It's just diminishing returns at this point. The shuffling of networks cost them, the years of miserable product cost them, and their insignificance in the landscape has ultimately done them in. Smaller national promotions are surviving (and in some cases, thriving) by being markedly different than WWE. Ring of Honor has syndication clearance and a propensity for creating top level, mainstream talent and presents themselves in a way which is decidedly different than WWE. Lucha Underground has the most unique presentation of pro wrestling, quite possibly ever, coupled with backing from a well-regarded producer/director in Hollywood and a network that believes in its purpose. NXT has the backing of the industry leader, the "cool" factor, and some of the hottest talent in the world. TNA has nothing. I don't even mean to come off as overly negative, but that's a factual representation of their product. They've managed to put on fairly consistent, creative, and enjoyable programming throughout 2016, but they're a television company producing a show that almost no one is watching, with a roster of stars that no one is willing to go out of their way to follow, and a business model that makes it almost impossible to make money. Don't get me wrong, guys like EC3 and Drew Galloway have really come into their own and proven that there was more to them than what WWE saw, but they're not setting the world on fire in any important category. They don't have the upside of an Adam Cole, the merch power of the Young Bucks, the drawing potential of Finn Balor, the worldwide acclaim of Shinsuke Nakamura. They're just a couple of solid workers in a promotion that has, by and large, been seen as a failing, faceless entity for the better part of the last five years. TNA, by all accounts, should be the cool promotion. The alternative to the mainstream. But they aren't. They feel like a derivative of the mainstream, filled with the castoffs and dejected veterans of a bygone era. All of the talent that made TNA so interesting in the past has moved on to greener pastures, and for those fans who seek more than just surface level entertainment out of wrestling, they're likely to have stumbled upon an Internet article or two articulating exactly why said talent moved on, and none of it instills any confidence in TNA's management or its future as a promotion. Bottom line: there is a stink surrounding TNA, and I don't think they're capable of washing it off under Dixie Carter. To appear at all credible against their contemporaries in today's crowded scene, they would need entirely new management and new branding from the ground up. That means, for starters, killing off "TNA" once and for all (which should have been done years ago.) I'm just not sure that Dixie Carter will release her grip, or if there's a company/network willing to dump enough money, time, and effort into rehabilitating a brand that has sunk to the bottom of the proverbial food chain.
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Post by Nivro™ on May 20, 2016 19:24:11 GMT -5
I watched TNA in the early days when it first started and I watched TNA when Hogan took over and enjoyed both. Every other time I tried to watch TNA its been painful. I have no desire to see mid carders from 10 years ago be the faces of a company. It reminds me of Tito Santana's AWF
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Post by cmiller79 on May 20, 2016 20:27:40 GMT -5
I hope it doesn't go away
I've enjoyed it more these past few months then I have in awhile
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Post by Epic Z on May 21, 2016 12:58:02 GMT -5
I don't watch TNA anymore, but I hope they don't go out of business. Sucks to be a wrestler and not really have many options in America to work. You can go to Lucha Underground or NJPW if you want to move to another country...but as far as living in America, WWE is really the only option. Sucks for guys that get released from WWE, or even guys who don't want to work for TNA anymore if WWE won't take them. I hate to see people out of work. These guys and ladies have families and bills and they just want to work....but like I said, just not very many options. Would love to see a guy like Damien Sandow go to TNA and become a huge star ike EC3 did and then kinda be able to be like "Hey WWE, look what you missed out on". That's not really true about the places to work. ROH has contracts where you can get guranteeed incoming pay, WWN/EVOLVE has contracts to my knowledge, and the whole Indy scene is in a boom period right now. Plus LU isn't in Mexico it's in LA lmao. WWE & TNA aren't the only options. But I do agree with everything else you said
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Post by Rob on May 21, 2016 13:23:31 GMT -5
I've tried to give TNA multiple chances as of late and its just falling flat with me. Everything they do just screams low budget now like the "PPV" specials they do, Instead of it actually being a PPV, Its a taped regular Impact show 2 months in advance. TNA in 2006-09 was was their peak and its depressing to see how far this company has fallen due to their own stupid ass decision and their obsession to be like WWE. If they would've stuck to their formula that they had in 05-09ish, TNA would probably be a legit competitor with WWE right now. Instead, They became exactly what everyone hated about WWE in 2010, Except it was 10x worse.
I fear its too late for them at this point. With ROH/LU doing great and places like Evolve, which has "the machine" backing it. TNA is basically just dead in the water and its too far gone to reestablish from scratch.
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Post by JC Motors on May 22, 2016 16:30:59 GMT -5
They need to just be a webshow and charge for the IPPVs like ROH did/does. I think TNA thinks its bigger than what it really is. That would be a terrible idea. Nobody buys their PPVs and nobody buys tickets to their shows. The only real revenue source they have is the pittance they get from these obscure TV networks. Factor in that most people don't get those obscure networks with their cable package.
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Post by theMOESIAH on May 22, 2016 23:31:56 GMT -5
Whether they're dropping it or not, the fact that POP is not promoting it is a problem. It's Hulk Hogan on American Idol all over again. Hulk Hogan was on American Idol? When?
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Post by theMOESIAH on May 22, 2016 23:34:47 GMT -5
I'll wait till someone like Dave Meltzer reports something about this. However, I did hear that POP did get rid of the Saturday morning replay, which the replay used to air after the live Impact. Did Sinclair really buy TNA? I don't remember ever hearing that the sale was official. I think the report is that Sinclair is buying POP, not TNA. Even though they own ROH, they are still primarily a broadcast syndication company. Incorrect sir. Sinclair recently bought the Tennis Channel and they are rebranding it as a sports network. They aren't buying POP.
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Post by The Constable on May 23, 2016 0:18:33 GMT -5
I didn't get Pop to begin with what do they even show other than impact
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on May 23, 2016 1:52:32 GMT -5
I think the report is that Sinclair is buying POP, not TNA. Even though they own ROH, they are still primarily a broadcast syndication company. Incorrect sir. Sinclair recently bought the Tennis Channel and they are rebranding it as a sports network. They aren't buying POP. What? How was I wrong? The Tennis Channel is a Television Channel, meaning it is in the same market as the Sinclair Broadcast Group. I didn't say they were totally buying POP, but then again, how do you know they aren't? Sinclair has started running a good chunk of CBS's affiliates within the past 5 years and CBS owns POP. And with them buying the Tennis Channel, they are stepping into the world of National TV.
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Post by marino13 on May 23, 2016 8:49:31 GMT -5
Whether they're dropping it or not, the fact that POP is not promoting it is a problem. It's Hulk Hogan on American Idol all over again. Hulk Hogan was on American Idol? When? Video is right up there ^^^ just scroll up a bit.
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Post by theMOESIAH on May 23, 2016 17:08:09 GMT -5
Incorrect sir. Sinclair recently bought the Tennis Channel and they are rebranding it as a sports network. They aren't buying POP. What? How was I wrong? The Tennis Channel is a Television Channel, meaning it is in the same market as the Sinclair Broadcast Group. I didn't say they were totally buying POP, but then again, how do you know they aren't? Sinclair has started running a good chunk of CBS's affiliates within the past 5 years and CBS owns POP. And with them buying the Tennis Channel, they are stepping into the world of National TV. You said, and I quote "Sinclair is buying POP." You are incorrect by saying something that is not correct.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on May 23, 2016 19:20:22 GMT -5
What? How was I wrong? The Tennis Channel is a Television Channel, meaning it is in the same market as the Sinclair Broadcast Group. I didn't say they were totally buying POP, but then again, how do you know they aren't? Sinclair has started running a good chunk of CBS's affiliates within the past 5 years and CBS owns POP. And with them buying the Tennis Channel, they are stepping into the world of National TV. You said, and I quote "Sinclair is buying POP." You are incorrect by saying something that is not correct. Nice job taking something out of context. I said "I think the report is that Sinclair is buying POP..." I never said that that was totally going to happen. I didn't say that they were in fact interested. I said that is one of the speculations of the report. And again, where is your proof that they aren't? I don't see anything from Sinclair saying that this is in fact not happening, making it not a fact. You can have an ill-informed opinion, but you can't have an incorrect one, as something has to be stated as fact to be correct or incorrect in the first place.
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Post by theMOESIAH on May 23, 2016 19:30:24 GMT -5
The president of POP was interviewed about TNA. I'm not going to post it here because it is v e r y l o n g but the short of it is TNA isn't going anywhere. He didn't address why they weren't advertising or even acknowledging Impact. I don't think that's a bad sign for TNA, but it isn't smart business.
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