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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on May 6, 2016 12:15:06 GMT -5
Nevilles a thick, ripped dude he has an eight pack on his back. If anything they should make a new sculpt for him..but won't happen. He kinda has that Benoit torso going on. Nevilles basic is better. They painted flat kickpads with stripes instead of the special mold used on all his basics. That screwed up the elite for me...
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Post by Greensborohill on May 6, 2016 12:21:19 GMT -5
It was pretty difficult to get off. I almost posted a thread on here asking for tips on removing it! I figured it out though.
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Post by PJ on May 6, 2016 12:25:44 GMT -5
Nevilles a thick, ripped dude he has an eight pack on his back. If anything they should make a new sculpt for him..but won't happen. He kinda has that Benoit torso going on. Like I said with Sting in a perfect world he should have had the Austin torso, but the blutista torso doesn't ruin it for me. The same can be said for Neville in a perfect world he should have the Orton/Ziggler torso, but the Macho torso won't be a deal breaker when I see the figure locally. But I am being honest when I say and ask this. Neville is ripped but he is small man. His basic figure size is much more accurate for his physique. Now his Elite is suffering from the same thing people are bashing the Sting figure for. Small legs with an oversized torso. So my question is why is it OK for one but not the other?
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Post by 'Exotic' Adrian Street on May 6, 2016 12:34:36 GMT -5
Nevilles a thick, ripped dude he has an eight pack on his back. If anything they should make a new sculpt for him..but won't happen. He kinda has that Benoit torso going on. Like I said with Sting in a perfect world he should have had the Austin torso, but the blutista torso doesn't ruin it for me. The same can be said for Neville in a perfect world he should have the Orton/Ziggler torso, but the Macho torso won't be a deal breaker when I see the figure locally. But I am being honest when I say and ask this. Neville is ripped but he is small man. His basic figure size is much more accurate for his physique. Now his Elite is suffering from the same thing people are bashing the Sting figure for. Small legs with an oversized torso. So my question is why is it OK for one but not the other? The answer is that maybe 1/4 of people care about Nevilles Elite figure looking great compared to a legend like Sting, especially the first Surfer Sting look
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Post by Bandalero on May 6, 2016 13:01:05 GMT -5
Like I said with Sting in a perfect world he should have had the Austin torso, but the blutista torso doesn't ruin it for me. The same can be said for Neville in a perfect world he should have the Orton/Ziggler torso, but the Macho torso won't be a deal breaker when I see the figure locally. But I am being honest when I say and ask this. Neville is ripped but he is small man. His basic figure size is much more accurate for his physique. Now his Elite is suffering from the same thing people are bashing the Sting figure for. Small legs with an oversized torso. So my question is why is it OK for one but not the other? The answer is that maybe 1/4 of people care about Nevilles Elite figure looking great compared to a legend like Sting, especially the first Surfer Sting look Yeah I'd have to agree with 'Exotic' Adrian Street on this one. Sting's a legit icon/legend, Neville is Neville, simple as that. You're not going to get a massive lynch mob after Neville's poor torso choice as you would with Sting. AND it's the first elite Surfer Sting and who knows when we'll ever see another one at the rate they push these figures out. Also when we do see another one, are we going to expect the same sub par head sculpt (like his Basic has) and bluetista torso? Or is MDT willing to revist their poor part choices? As it looks, I'm going to have to stock up on E41 Bulldogs and E39 Zigglers for a more accurate upper body on future Stings.
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Post by SteveHulk on May 6, 2016 18:01:06 GMT -5
Huh? Other than the jacket and new head this figure is incredibly bland reuse parts. Look at elite 42 Woods and Neville in comparison both superior figures that have more paint deco. And better accessorizes. And we will be seeing that surfer sting head on a future basic already. ...but the jacket is a giant chunk of the budget for the overall figure - it is/will be unique to this figure. The last figure with a similar (unique) jacket was probably the RSC Bret Hart, which also cost more than a standard Elite.
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Post by RybackV1 on May 6, 2016 19:31:11 GMT -5
Y'all are crazy
This figure is dope
Really wanna find one soon
And this is coming from someone who wasn't a fan of Surfer Sting at all
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Post by underoos on May 6, 2016 19:49:26 GMT -5
It's great moc haha
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Post by KPnDC on May 6, 2016 19:56:53 GMT -5
I have an idea, use the cloth version of the bash Sting jacket provided by Ralph's or Jakks, cut the bulky cloth collar off, and cut off and glue on the plastic collar and shoulder tassels on to the cloth one...I wonder how that would look. I'd like to see an attempt in the fix up thread of this idea. The thing w/ Ralphs jackets are that they're oversized, but you can make them smaller w/ some stitching or just hot glue. I did some work on my King jacket. Cut the tassels down and glued the sleeves in a way that made it tailored for the Mattel figure even more. I think you're onto something w/ the adjustments you suggested.
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Post by KPnDC on May 6, 2016 20:13:02 GMT -5
I kind of want the Defining Moments line to die. I can't justify $30 for one figure and have it come with clunky plastic as its sole accessory. I mean if you can't justify it, doesn't mean it should go away. It's something folks around here have wanted for as long as I've been a member. We have the option of not purchasing the figure if it's not to our liking.
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Post by | NLS™ | on May 6, 2016 20:45:55 GMT -5
For a Defining Moments figure - and the extra cost - its is quite disappointing. Yeah, it is! Now we're just paying $%=5 fr a pretty shrunken down box.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2016 1:03:11 GMT -5
I have an idea, use the cloth version of the bash Sting jacket provided by Ralph's or Jakks, cut the bulky cloth collar off, and cut off and glue on the plastic collar and shoulder tassels on to the cloth one...I wonder how that would look. I'd like to see an attempt in the fix up thread of this idea. The thing w/ Ralphs jackets are that they're oversized, but you can make them smaller w/ some stitching or just hot glue. I did some work on my King jacket. Cut the tassels down and glued the sleeves in a way that made it tailored for the Mattel figure even more. I think you're onto something w/ the adjustments you suggested. I may get around to actually trying it myself one day, BTW, nice Lawler jacket.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2016 9:25:48 GMT -5
Agree, jacket is awful, felt like I was about to snap his arm off during removal. Won't even attempt to put it back on. Also, if the budget is such a major issue, make it an Elite instead of the overpriced DM and lose the useless jacket.
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Post by ⋔ 4 ℞ ℞ $ on May 7, 2016 14:59:45 GMT -5
I kind of want the Defining Moments line to die. I can't justify $30 for one figure and have it come with clunky plastic as its sole accessory. I mean if you can't justify it, doesn't mean it should go away. It's something folks around here have wanted for as long as I've been a member. We have the option of not purchasing the figure if it's not to our liking. Plus you can always get lucky like myself the other day and find an awesome figure at a justifiable price aka a good deal (albeit the "variant" laced boots version, which in this case is ok 'cause I wanted that one anyways just to have sealed and will later buy a couple/few more from the correct boots wave via renowned, running change).
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Post by warriorheart on May 8, 2016 10:03:18 GMT -5
I can't stand that jacket. It makes Sting look like he's flying away. Really bad choice to make it plastic/rubber.
How do they even expect kids to take that jacket off without pulling an arm off. Kids aren't as careful as adults with that sort of thing. Kind of like those bad Taker coats as well. My kids can't even get those back on.
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Post by mrassbillygunn on May 8, 2016 11:25:03 GMT -5
I can't stand that jacket. It makes Sting look like he's flying away. Really bad choice to make it plastic/rubber. How do they even expect kids to take that jacket off without pulling an arm off. Kids aren't as careful as adults with that sort of thing. Kind of like those bad Taker coats as well. My kids can't even get those back on. Excellent point, Bill says he couldnt make the proper tassels like the ones on macho's DM figure because of choking hazards, well Bill...KIDS WILL BARELY BE ABLE TO TAKE THIS JACKET OFF WITHOUT BREAKING THE DAMN FIGURE! Id love him to say well the DM line is not really for kids and then Id say then why the choking hazards!!
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Post by PJ on May 8, 2016 11:43:06 GMT -5
Come on. It isn't that hard to put this or Bret's, Taker's or Edge's jackets/coat on or take off. Taking it off just push it over the shoulders and slide down the arms. Putting it on you put one hand and forearm into the sleeve then the other arm and slide up. It really isn't splitting the atom like some of you are making it out to be.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on May 8, 2016 12:04:50 GMT -5
Sting is my favorite wrestler of all time so for me personally it's disappointing when a figure is highly anticipated and then doesn't meet our expectations. I'm not saying that everyone wouldn't have complained about the figure regardless of part choices and cloth/vinyl jacket but I think they're would of been less backlash. Let's face it, no matter how well things are made not everyone will be pleased... And that's due to the general ideal of what Mattel is capable of, one example being the SDCC Undertaker and another the DM crow Sting. Did the DM Sting have some flaws? Sure it did, but overall it was a great figure and the minor flaws were fixed with an arm swap. Now going back to surfer Sting... In my case I knew it would have the plastic/rubber cocoon jacket from the proto so I wasn't getting my hopes up for anything cloth like. I wasn't a fan of the patriotic face paint so the figure would be an easy pass for me. For those who wanted the figure I understand the frustration. Now as far as those who say if you don't like it don't buy it.... Well some of us want to buy the figures and if you don't remember the reason why the original DM line was canceled was due to poor sales. So if we're a Sting fan and all the Sting figures look inaccurate do you expect us not to collect or want the figures? We don't have any other options but to either correct the figures ourselves or just buy what we get. I'm not writing this to bash Mattel because honestly I think they've made the best line of wrestling figures thus far. I'm writing this because I'm a fan of their work but also hope they take our feedback to improve their future Sting figures. They have the parts available to make a really nice Sting. I could bypass the headscan because I'm sure we'll more in the future but the part choices used on this figure other than the boots are mindboggeling imo. Here's what I'm hoping for future surfer Stings
-Austin torso -thicker legs And last but not least I wouldn't mind a vinyl version (even if it has the thick tassels and no epaulets or maybe they could make the epaulets rubber or something)
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2016 15:01:08 GMT -5
Personally, I think the jacket on the Defining Moments Sting looks fine and harbors a great amount of detail. It's just hard as hell to remove. I prefer the material used for the Sting jacket and the Hogan DM shirt opposed to the cloth of the Ric Rude elite and other similar figures, it just looks better in my opinion.
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Post by poindizzle on May 8, 2016 18:59:52 GMT -5
I read this whole thread. The takeaway was "This jacket is plastic" followed by "this jacket isn't plastic".
But really, a uniquely sculpted jacket isn't a reason to make a figure cost $25-$30. Considering figures like Elite 18 Wade Barrett, Elite 4 Finlay, Elite 28 Undertaker, Elite 8 Undertaker, Elite 14 Undertaker, Elite 19 Dolph Ziggler, and Elite 24 Miz all had one off jackets. And let's not forget Elite 4 John Morrison's one-off cloth robe with unique stitching. If you're a loose collector, then you should be mad that you had to pay extra for a bigger box to chuck in recycling.
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