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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Aug 31, 2015 18:52:12 GMT -5
I promised I wasn't going to state more things in this threat. As I am reading more and more posts, the information is becoming cloudy.
One reason why the tape where Terry Boliea made those racist comments came out was to be used as ammunition for Gawker's lawsuit against Mr. Boliea. There is true to Boliea's claims about he wasn't aware he was being recorded. It is possible to record a conversation without one or more parties not knowing about said recording.
Divorce proceedings can take years to be finalized. When lawyers involved, it can drag out for a long time. Terry and Linda couldn't come to divorce terms right away. Just throwing that out there.
As for the N-word, I've seen and heard blacks using the same word with their peers. Hell, even Hispanics use that word. One reason why it is being blown out of proportion is some people want to be politically correct. Had this tape came out in 2007, the circumstances would have been different. Terry Boliea rarely made appearances with the WWE from August 2006 to February 2014.
The only way I see Hogan making a return to the WWE is after his lawsuit with Gawker is finished. Knowing how the legal system is, this case can drag out for as long as possible.
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Post by kingnothing ~ Hardwired... on Aug 31, 2015 20:31:54 GMT -5
Not everyone is cut out to run a business because many people allow their emotions to override their common sense in decision making. A lot of negative comments about the WWE's handling of Hogan are prime examples of that. Firing him over RACIST COMMENTS he said almost 10 years ago is an overreaction only if the hot-button social issue for the moment isn't how racism currently exists in our world AND Hogan himself is just a performer on tv and nothing more. Unfortunately for him, he was hired and referred to regularly as an ambassador for the WWE. As someone representing the company, comments like those he used, behind closed doors or not, are damaging to WWE, not just Hogan himself. If this were 5 years ago they could have just demoted him and sent him to a sensitivity training and been done with it. We live in a world right now where a handful of stupid individuals that became police officers did terrible things with their power, and because of it, a good chunk of the nation believes all cops are terrible people and shouldn't be able to enforce the law. Hogan probably was on board with the termination because it came BEFORE anyone had a chance to really react or judge the action or inaction by WWE. The company looks like a proactive group, Hogan gets to apologize like he did today, time will pass and, hopefully, this will blow over sooner rather than later and he can return one last time. It'll be a feel-good story for everyone. I just don't see it that way. Like it or not, Hogan is special. No he isn't above reproach, and I never said they should do nothing; demoting him from the Ambassador position, suspending him, and pulling merch would have sent the same message - that no matter how big of a name that you are, you will be held accountable for your actions. The issue is violence against people of African decent, specifically by people of whom are responsible for serving and protecting all people. Yes, racism is a part of it, but there was no violence, Hogan never threatened or condoned violence, he was just bull$#!tting as part of a different issue. What he said was stupid, and words do hurt, but this isn't exactly part of a long history of even thinly-veiled racism. The complete and utter lack of any semblance of loyalty (since WWE always claims to be a "family"), as well as the fact that the end result was very reminiscent of what happened with Benoit - who performed actions far worse, yet also remains on the Network - is what has rubbed people the wrong way. Similar can be said about what happened with Bill Cosby. He's being rubbed out to the point that one of the greatest sitcoms of all time is no longer on the air anywhere. Like Benoit, that is more understandable. In spite of their history, if this were a podcast appearance or radio interview from a month ago rather than nearly ten years ago I would be more inclined to agree with you, as his words would have a greater bearing on the zeitgeist. The message of 'stupid racist remarks in the past deserve the same punishment as murder suicide involving a child' is present to anyone in the know. I don't think that most people would want to see someone else lose their job (and in this case, see them actively shunned from history) over stupid comments made many years ago that don't involve any threats or proclivities toward violence. In a public company, under similar circumstances, and concerning someone with as much history of the industry so clearly intertwined with my organization, as well as my organization's success (arguably the reason why my organization is where it is) I would absolutely do the things that I said above, and I am confident that such an organization would not be criticized for failing to 'sever all ties, past and present' with this person while also escaping the threat of people claiming that they had done nothing. Those of us knocking the WWE would be far less likely to do so under these circumstances. Nobody EVER said they should do nothing. Loyalty should count for something. That is where I have always stood, we are going to have to agree to disagree. I never said anything about you or anyone else saying they should do nothing, for the record. As for Hogan being special, he is, but he's not above severe punishment for doing something that might cost the company he works for sponsorship dollars or public ridicule. Money, loyalty and business don't always go hand-in-hand. See Paula Dean's situation. I don't think she had any threatening comments either, however, I know her network delayed action and they took a big financial hit. I'm not going to be able to convince you that the consequences, though extremely harsh, were necessary, so I won't write much more, but I can guarantee you that if WWE had waited a few days to see how the public was going to react, their stocks would've dipped, an outcry of boycotts to their sponsors would have pressured at least a couple companies to drop ads, and every news outlet would be badmouthing them each hour on the hour. Not to mention the silly "I'm dropping the network!" forum postings that hit when someone feels disrespected. WWE went to work just a few short hours after the comments were made public (early in the damned morning too) and saved themselves thousands (maybe more) of dollars and avoided a PR nightmare. AND, I promise you, it expedited the process of eventually bringing him back into the fold for a happy ending. |
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Post by Mr. #1derful® on Aug 31, 2015 21:05:41 GMT -5
Good morning to you, n*****.
Why good morning to you, n*****!
That GMA interview made my day, and it was only 7:30 in the morning.
Good ol' Hogan.
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Post by marino13 on Sept 1, 2015 9:15:37 GMT -5
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Post by Tyler Black on Sept 1, 2015 9:21:29 GMT -5
Surprise surprise. Hogan  ed up his own apology |
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Post by J12 on Sept 1, 2015 10:16:52 GMT -5
Yeah, this interview did nothing but make me feel less sorry for Hogan than I already did, if that's even possible.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 10:32:22 GMT -5
That interview, to me at least, seemed like he was genuinely apologising for a dumb mistake he made a few years ago when he was going through a tough time.
I forgive him, honestly.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 11:55:34 GMT -5
I can't believe the people from Hogan's home town took offense to his comments!!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 22:37:15 GMT -5
That interview, to me at least, seemed like he was genuinely apologising for a dumb mistake he made a few years ago when he was going through a tough time. I forgive him, honestly. This. |
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Sept 3, 2015 1:11:57 GMT -5
That interview, to me at least, seemed like he was genuinely apologising for a dumb mistake he made a few years ago when he was going through a tough time. I forgive him, honestly. Thats how I took it as well. But this is Hogan, it wouldn't have mattered what he said, everyone jumping down his throat now would be jumping down his throat anyway. Hogan can do no right for some people. It wasn't perfect, but this is a difficult, delicate situation. There is no perfect. The people who are most vocal are people who hated him to begin with, so under the guise of disgust they are just reveling in finding more reasons to knock him. |
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Sept 4, 2015 1:40:25 GMT -5
That interview, to me at least, seemed like he was genuinely apologising for a dumb mistake he made a few years ago when he was going through a tough time. I forgive him, honestly. He definitely wasn't doing that. He pretended he just got caught saying a naughty word that was fine in his neighbourhood growing up, as though all he had said was "what's up n****r?" innocently. He didn't apologise at all for going on a hateful racist rant. |
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