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Post by | NLS™ | on Aug 29, 2015 21:54:52 GMT -5
Hogan needs to sit down with Opera. If shes cool with him, who aint?
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Post by BCizzle on Aug 29, 2015 22:40:34 GMT -5
Hogan recently told TMZ that he holds no ill will towards WWE or Vince. He then calls them his family. Sounds like he's made peace with what they had to do quicker than many here have. Punishing him is one thing, erasing him from history is another.
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Post by marino13 on Aug 29, 2015 23:05:20 GMT -5
Hogan recently told TMZ that he holds no ill will towards WWE or Vince. He then calls them his family. Sounds like he's made peace with what they had to do quicker than many here have. Punishing him is one thing, erasing him from history is another. I don't know exactly how he's erased though. I just went to the network and typed in "Hulk" and over 60 pages of videos popped up. As far as I can tell, they just took him off their site to distance themselves for awhile. It's not like they are acting as if Hulk vs Andre wasn't the main Event of WMIII or anything.
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Post by BCizzle on Aug 30, 2015 0:56:04 GMT -5
Punishing him is one thing, erasing him from history is another. I don't know exactly how he's erased though. I just went to the network and typed in "Hulk" and over 60 pages of videos popped up. As far as I can tell, they just took him off their site to distance themselves for awhile. It's not like they are acting as if Hulk vs Andre wasn't the main Event of WMIII or anything. Yeah, he would be harder to blot out than Chris Benoit, so he's not getting that exact treatment. Then again, they finally relented and Benoit eventually reappeared. They did remove him from the website in a lot of places. And in the new Roddy Piper tribute magazine the WWE put out, Hogan is not mentioned or pictured once, so I guess he was never a part of Piper's career? At least he wasn't removed from the new Ultimate Warrior book, that would have been pretty tough to take him out of the Warrior's career.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Aug 30, 2015 3:07:10 GMT -5
I'm more upset with people trying to paint Hogan as some kind of Satan than I am with Hogan himself for making a stupid mistake. The majority of idiots who are most fervently against him are people who didn't like him to begin with, and no matter how sincere he is, they still won't accept anything other than his head on a pike, and that's just moronic. I sincerely believe he is a good guy, I don't give a f#ck what he did backstage, that's all business - he's a dick businessman for sure. As a man I believe he is only human, no different than you or I, and humans make mistakes. Anyone who claims to have never had a racist thought is absolutely full of $#!t. It was 9 years ago, yet because it's Hogan and not Austin or CM Punk, the lynch mob is always on hand.
On the other hand, Hogan's mouth has a way of getting him in trouble more than most. I truly hope he thought long and hard before he spoke. I hope Terry Bollea was the one speaking and not Hulk Hogan, hype machine. He already said he had no hard feelings toward the WWE, and thats a step in the right direction. I don't think that this will expedite his return all that much, but if he's honest about where he was in his life, and accepts the blame then this will go a long way in repairing his image. Ultimately, WWE or not, that's what he needs. There will always be idiots with an axe to grind because of Shawn Michaels or Bret, or whoever in the past, but those people are myopic and lost. African Americans may not look at him the same, but that's also to be expected, and rightfully so. As much as I wish that whatever he says will just erase this whole incident that is impossible. If done right, however, it could help the vast majority move on. Right now, more than having merch or having him in the game (which believe me, I have like no interest in without Hogan), I care about his good name being restored in the eyes of the general public. We've all said terrible things in our lives, the only difference is that we usually get away with it and move on. Yes, what he said was wrong, insensitive, and just plain moronic, but this is definitely a mole hill turned to a mountain, mostly because of the WWE's overreaction. What was said can't be unheard, but if he doesn't screw this up worse for himself, maybe...just maybe...we can forget about this nonsense and go on with business as usual.
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Post by marino13 on Aug 30, 2015 7:45:36 GMT -5
I don't know exactly how he's erased though. I just went to the network and typed in "Hulk" and over 60 pages of videos popped up. As far as I can tell, they just took him off their site to distance themselves for awhile. It's not like they are acting as if Hulk vs Andre wasn't the main Event of WMIII or anything. Yeah, he would be harder to blot out than Chris Benoit, so he's not getting that exact treatment. Then again, they finally relented and Benoit eventually reappeared. They did remove him from the website in a lot of places. And in the new Roddy Piper tribute magazine the WWE put out, Hogan is not mentioned or pictured once, so I guess he was never a part of Piper's career? At least he wasn't removed from the new Ultimate Warrior book, that would have been pretty tough to take him out of the Warrior's career. I've yet to see the Piper tribute magazine, so that's a shame their rivalry wasn't included. I don't disagree that they got a bit carried away. I think a suspension for 90 days would have been more than enough. But we all know he'll be back into the fold soon enough.
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Post by jacguitarist on Aug 30, 2015 9:04:50 GMT -5
Unrelated to Hogan...but have you guys heard about Seth Rollins girlfriend? Evidently she's in NXT and made her debut, then afterwards photos she had posted back in 2012 on instagram resurfaced that contained swastikas, and one was a my little pony dressed like hitler.
Haven't heard any ramifications, but if you're going to take down Hogan for stuff that occurred 8 years ago, in private, when he wasn't even with the WWE then the same should happen to her for posting something 3 years ago and to the actual PUBLIC.
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Post by OmegaGaijin on Aug 30, 2015 9:52:49 GMT -5
I think it'll just make things worse. He honestly can't help himself when it comes to lies. He should off just disappeared for a year then slowly come back.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 7:48:03 GMT -5
From what I've read about what he said. I completely agree with him.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Aug 31, 2015 8:26:50 GMT -5
I sat and watched the bit they showed with Hulk Hogan on GMA. I can tell he was speaking as Terry Bollea, not Hulk Hogan. He brought up growing up in Florida where people used the N word like it is no tomorrow. You really have to delve into what his childhood was like growing up on Florida in the 1950's and 60's. A lot of who we are stems from our personal experiences as children. That stuff lingers well into adulthood. Terry Boliea is no exception. Sure she said this and that, it doesn't change the fact we are human and we **** up every so often. Amy Robach (the one who conducted the interview) mentioned that the WWE set Mr. Boliea free after his firing.
Brooke Boliea (the center of this whole controversy) decided not to hate what her father said. Instead, she turned a negative into a positive. Mr. Boliea is taking this who situation as a learning experience and is at peace with himself. He is fully aware of the ramifications and is doing his best to repair his image. With that said, this controversy is going to bite Gawker in the ass when the case goes to trial in March of 2016. Should Gawker lose the case, they did it to themselves.
Organizations like Gawker and the National Enquirer violate the Unite States' First Amendment to free speech by going too far.
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Post by marino13 on Aug 31, 2015 8:35:46 GMT -5
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Post by torriefan4life on Aug 31, 2015 8:45:41 GMT -5
I feel bad for Hulk, but I think he handled this interview well. I hope WWE will forgive him soon.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 8:54:12 GMT -5
Surprisingly, he handled that interview really well. This is a step in the right direction for him.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Aug 31, 2015 8:58:55 GMT -5
Pretty much exactly what I thought, he was pissed at Brooke and took it out on her guy. He still needs to talk to Mark Henry and Booker T and guys like that before he makes it right with the WWE, but it was clear to me what happened from the start. None of this can be unsaid or unheard, but if nothing else this was a step in the right direction. I'm not Vince McMahon obviously, so I don't know what he took away from this, and we know triple H and Steph won't do anything to go to bat for Hogan, so hopefully seeing that this whole thing blew over rather quickly, that Hogan still has a lot of support, and whatever was taken from this interview opens up the lines of communication again. He's not going to be back until after the trial, but there's no need to hold off of discussing the future.
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Post by marino13 on Aug 31, 2015 9:10:28 GMT -5
Pretty much exactly what I thought, he was pissed at Brooke and took it out on her guy. He still needs to talk to Mark Henry and Booker T and guys like that before he makes it right with the WWE, but it was clear to me what happened from the start. None of this can be unsaid or unheard, but if nothing else this was a step in the right direction. I'm not Vince McMahon obviously, so I don't know what he took away from this, and we know triple H and Steph won't do anything to go to bat for Hogan, so hopefully seeing that this whole thing blew over rather quickly, that Hogan still has a lot of support, and whatever was taken from this interview opens up the lines of communication again. He's not going to be back until after the trial, but there's no need to hold off of discussing the future. We do?
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Post by WWE Common Terry on Aug 31, 2015 9:13:33 GMT -5
Come on Vince, don't let this time slip away like you did with Warrior.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Aug 31, 2015 9:30:03 GMT -5
I am shocked by this. For once, Hogan comes off as genuine. Aside from the "you should forgive me" line (which I feel was worded badly), he really did seem humbled.
Though, shame on GMA for trying to make WWE out to be the bad guy, especially being owned by ABC who recently dropped Trump also for racist remarks (albeit, much worse). Yes, the ball is in WWE's court, but why sit there and make them out to be the bad guy for wanting to avoid bad PR. No matter what WWE does they just get sh*t on by the media, screw you GMA.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 9:33:52 GMT -5
I am shocked by this. For once, Hogan comes off as genuine. Aside from the "you should forgive me" line (which I feel was worded badly), he really did seem humbled. Though, shame on GMA for trying to make WWE out to be the bad guy, especially being owned by ABC who recently dropped Trump also for racist remarks (albeit, much worse). Yes, the ball is in WWE's court, but why sit there and make them out to be the bad guy for wanting to avoid bad PR. No matter what WWE does they just get sh*t on by the media, screw you GMA. Why shouldn't they lampoon WWE for tossing Hogan away without getting his side of the story out first?
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Aug 31, 2015 9:40:56 GMT -5
I am shocked by this. For once, Hogan comes off as genuine. Aside from the "you should forgive me" line (which I feel was worded badly), he really did seem humbled. Though, shame on GMA for trying to make WWE out to be the bad guy, especially being owned by ABC who recently dropped Trump also for racist remarks (albeit, much worse). Yes, the ball is in WWE's court, but why sit there and make them out to be the bad guy for wanting to avoid bad PR. No matter what WWE does they just get sh*t on by the media, screw you GMA. Why shouldn't they lampoon WWE for tossing Hogan away without getting his side of the story out first? Because Hogan wasn't an active competitor drawing in tons of money. I find it extremely hypocritical of GMA given their Trump situation. It just another chance for them to ride the WWE hate train. NFL did the same thing when the Ray Rice video was released. WWE hasn't erased him, they have removed his bio and merch from their website.
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Post by marino13 on Aug 31, 2015 9:45:14 GMT -5
I am shocked by this. For once, Hogan comes off as genuine. Aside from the "you should forgive me" line (which I feel was worded badly), he really did seem humbled. Though, shame on GMA for trying to make WWE out to be the bad guy, especially being owned by ABC who recently dropped Trump also for racist remarks (albeit, much worse). Yes, the ball is in WWE's court, but why sit there and make them out to be the bad guy for wanting to avoid bad PR. No matter what WWE does they just get sh*t on by the media, screw you GMA. Why shouldn't they lampoon WWE for tossing Hogan away without getting his side of the story out first? Do we know WWE didn't talk to Hogan first? Has that been stated somewhere?
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