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Post by Escape The Rules on Jul 30, 2015 23:29:42 GMT -5
We've all encountered them. Whether it be on Youtube comments, social media or in person at some kind of wrestling event. The type of people who blame anything they don't like in WWE on the company being PG. Raw sucked? Damn PG. John Cena wins a match? Damn PG. Hulk Hogan gets fired for racist remarks? Stupid PG! They're easily the most annoying kind of wrestling fans on the planet. The other day I saw that it's been 7 years since WWE officially went PG. I follow a "This date in WWE history" account on Twitter and predicted that if they tweet about this anniversary, all of the replies would be boneheaded and moronic as ... annnd I was right. Here's the tweet. Just some of the replies: when it went downhill
it was a dark day
the day that killed WWE
and from that moment on it started to suck
the day you knew u ed up, vince
one of the worst decisions they made!
worst day in the history of the company (Jesus Christ, seriously?) Miss all the blood and swearing wwe is crap now and this is why It absolute blows my mind that there are so many people out there who think like that. Here's a question. If WWE hadn't publicly announced going PG in July 2008, do you think anyone would have even noticed right away? I honestly doubt that I would have. WWE being PG has NEVER been an issue for me, there's been many great moments and matches in the company over the last 7 years. A lot of the apres-PG years in WWE have been much better than a lot of the stuff from the TV 14 era. I found 2006 and 2007 to be one of the dullest times ever as a fan and those weren't the PG days. Give me 2010-2015 over those years any day. It p*sses me off greatly when I see people playing the PG card at every given turn. The misconception that people have on what PG entails is mind numbing. Feel free to use this thread to vent on "anti PG" ignorance and any experiences you've had with these ignorant, blinded people.
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Post by Planktung on Jul 30, 2015 23:39:57 GMT -5
If someone absolutely NEEDS blood and swearing to make professional wrestling enjoyable, they're ing sick.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 23:52:31 GMT -5
If someone absolutely NEEDS blood and swearing to make professional wrestling enjoyable, they're ing sick. I'm ing sick. Back to CZWStudios.com I go.
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Post by Tom Baker's Scarf on Jul 30, 2015 23:54:09 GMT -5
It's not the rating that matters, it's the storylines and match quality. I do wish they would be a little less strict about blood at least. I mean, not to the extent they used from 98-08, but the use of blood for dramatic effect can work pretty well.
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Post by Kanenite on Jul 30, 2015 23:55:46 GMT -5
I always felt that during that Summer WWE entered into a new era, and not just because of the rating. There was a bunch of changes.
I also remember liking 2008 as it started, but once the summer hit, Chris Jericho was the only guy keeping me interested in the product. He was on fire with that Heel role.
But I totally agree, the "PG SUX" kids are annoying as hell, and most of them weren't even around/watching before the PG era anyway,
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Post by k5 on Jul 30, 2015 23:59:13 GMT -5
it's more that they are a stock driven company in a time where everything is highly under scrutiny to be morally uptight on all levels. wrestling is always a reflection of society. the pg thing more just coincides.
that said, the match quality these days is superb for the most part. and we get lots of wrestling.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Jul 31, 2015 0:00:12 GMT -5
Yeah it's ridiculous that some fans can only watch wrestling if there is buckets of blood and a whole bunch of swearing. Look at how people reacted when Brock got busted open at Mania (I think it was), people lost their ing minds. Do you think a simple thing like that would illicit such a reaction if that was happening every month or every couple weeks? I sure don't think so. The only complaint I have about PG is that matches like the Hell In A Cell and Elimination Chamber don't have any real feeling of importance because those matches were built around people bleeding. But rather than them just reinstituting blood, I'd rather they just not do HIAC and Chamber matches anymore. Leave those in the past. You can still do good Steel Cage matches without blood.
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Post by Starscream on Jul 31, 2015 0:03:33 GMT -5
98.8% of those people don't even actually think that, it's just people who always follow others and can't think for themselves. I mean it's twitter for crying out loud, I am sure there's people out there who really have great reasons to dislike how things are now but most of them don't express their opinion in such a kiddy way, it's even ironic, these people that blindly hate the PG era for being kiddy are being kiddy themselves.
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Post by The IT Factor on Jul 31, 2015 0:25:40 GMT -5
The PG rating was never a problem for WWE.
The problem, is the people writing the show has absolutely no idea what they're doing.
The match quality has been great this era, but the storylines has sucked. This years embarrassment of a RTWM proves this.
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Post by Mr Wrestling Jr. on Jul 31, 2015 0:26:28 GMT -5
My "issues" with a PG product, using words like turd as an insult. Hell In A Cell and Elimination Chamber they can't really do anything brutal in them anymore, like throw someone through the old bullet proof glass pods, Kane destroying Jericho at Survivor Series 2002 is one of my fondest wrestling memories. A few years ago when Cena and Miz were feuding, Cena said that Miz makes "poopy noises" Really? I get he can't say Miz is a arrogant mother er or anything but surely they could've said Miz is no better than dog crap or something. And of course I don't think anyone enjoyed the comedy bits they tried with El Torito running around ringside. No real issue that will turn me away from it, just some things that I feel don't make sense in a wrestling environment.
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Post by A-Rob on Jul 31, 2015 0:29:27 GMT -5
PG doesn't bother me like it used to.
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Post by hbkjason on Jul 31, 2015 1:05:30 GMT -5
To me the company being PG is not an issue at all. It is the poor writing, repeated matches and for me the main one is complete lack of any personality in about 75 percent of the roster that is the problem with the current product. A good story is a good story regardless of what age rating it is. You could have hookers, gangsters and buckets of blood, but if the writing and the characters are not there then it is still going to be boring.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Jul 31, 2015 1:10:14 GMT -5
The problem isn't the PG rating in and of itself. The problem is that the switch to PG just happened to coincide with one one of the worst creative eras in WWE history.
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Post by 5th Horsewoman on Jul 31, 2015 2:26:47 GMT -5
To me the company being PG is not an issue at all. It is the poor writing, repeated matches and for me the main one is complete lack of any personality in about 75 percent of the roster that is the problem with the current product. A good story is a good story regardless of what age rating it is. You could have hookers, gangsters and buckets of blood, but if the writing and the characters are not there then it is still going to be boring. Agree. The people that are Pro PG that act all high and mighty are just as bad as the Anti PG fan's.
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Post by ZDB on Jul 31, 2015 2:32:59 GMT -5
My "issues" with a PG product, using words like turd as an insult. Hell In A Cell and Elimination Chamber they can't really do anything brutal in them anymore, like throw someone through the old bullet proof glass pods, Kane destroying Jericho at Survivor Series 2002 is one of my fondest wrestling memories. A few years ago when Cena and Miz were feuding, Cena said that Miz makes "poopy noises" Really? I get he can't say Miz is a arrogant mother er or anything but surely they could've said Miz is no better than dog crap or something. And of course I don't think anyone enjoyed the comedy bits they tried with El Torito running around ringside. No real issue that will turn me away from it, just some things that I feel don't make sense in a wrestling environment. Hell yeah Whoops
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Post by John1234 on Jul 31, 2015 2:35:32 GMT -5
Now that its pg they spend less time on outlandish storylines and more time on matches
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Post by jayrod2009 on Jul 31, 2015 2:45:52 GMT -5
I am not a fan of The PG era because, as stated already, The writing and the vocabulary blockage. Take The Rock for example. He managed to bend that. However, John Cena says fart, poop, and turd. That insults my intelligence. This era was dubbed the "Reality Era", and yet, when two guys/girls are going at it, the trash talk includes butt and silly? No no no.... This is where we need ass, pansy, etc etc.... I'm not saying a Jerry Springer vocabulary here, but atleast have your adults playing like adults. Or atleast teenager level. The other reason WWE currently sucks, is the fact that we are over fed content weekly. 7 hours of WWE per week, not including the 3-4 hour PPV each month. Plus added extras on The Network? WWE focuses on its new audience. To them, they either have never watched before, or its been years since they have. So with that formula, rehashed stories are easy to dish out. This is why NXT works. Theres 4 hours of NXT per month. Thos leaves you begging for more. WWE leaves you begging for less, which is sad. WWE was always the company that came first for me ( except WCW from 97-99) yet Raw has become a chore to get through and I haven't bothered with Smackdown in months maybe years.
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Post by specterkev on Jul 31, 2015 3:02:49 GMT -5
I'm anti pg it sucks... WEEEEEELLLLLLL.. it is not just the pg thing... you can put on a decent pg show.. WWE does not do this in my eyes.. they cater WAY to much to make it kids friendly when it shouldn't be anyways as it is violent to begin with.. it's too damned goofy and childish... this is my opinion so don;t attack me..
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Post by TheXtremisT on Jul 31, 2015 4:11:33 GMT -5
You guys have all got it spot on.
I feel the poor quality of today's programming is 3-fold:
1. The writers aren't wrestling fans, and don't book consistently. The storylines are pathetic, and they hope we forget past rivalries/stories as easily as they do. These dumbasses are "Hollywood/Soap Opera writer" rejects. It's Vince and Kevin Dunn's faults as far as I'm concerned. There needs to be a consortium of fans, like a roundtable, where they can bounce ideas off of each other and cater to REAL WRESTLING fans.
2. The short attention span of the audience. I feel the constant hot-shotting of the 90s has bred the most ADD fans ever. And as a result it continued on from then until now. Where storylines finish after 1 or 2 months, with little significance. Even matches have suffered. The constant need for "upping the ante" each time has caused a boredom because there's only so far to go. Back to basics approach is needed.
3. The wrestlers themselves are lacking charisma. Sure some are entertaining, but can't connect with the fans like the 80s and 90s guys did. They need to learn how to talk, improvise and look unique. Some get it - just look at Sasha Banks. She's got it down to a tee. When guys are allowed to be themselves, and not follow a script but instead write their own promos, or get taught how to do it better, is what is needed.
I'd love to get hired to give some input to this company.
Just my 2 cents.
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Post by The Sexy Psychotic on Jul 31, 2015 4:13:41 GMT -5
Raw in 96 and most of 97 was PG, and frankly they were some of the best examples of WWE combining everything ever. Its not the lack of blood or language that hinders the company, its the lack of character development and long-standing feuds that dont become repeats (*cough* Cena/Owens *cough*)
I do wish they didn't stop matches mid way if a guy gets busted though; kills all momentum and totally derails the match. When a guy gets busted now its a huge thing and the fans pop, so why halt that excitement for 2 minutes whilst you badly wipe up blood thats gonna keep flowing the second you leave the ring anyway?
Creativity is whats missing, thats all
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