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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on May 24, 2015 16:16:10 GMT -5
I'm throwing up in my mouth a little bit reading that some of you think Brock vs Roman is a contender for match of the year Lol. This is me when people say Brock/Roman was bad He didnt say it was bad, he just meant he thought wasnt a MOTY candidate.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on May 24, 2015 16:17:16 GMT -5
This is me when people say Brock/Roman was bad He didnt say it was bad, he just meant he thought wasnt a MOTY candidate. I wasn't saying he said that. I've seen some people online say it though and it makes me nearly throw up in my mouth.
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Post by A-Rob on May 24, 2015 16:34:56 GMT -5
Here'so my Top 5 so far. NJPW: Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Kota Ibushi NJPW: Tomohiro Ishii vs. Tomoaki Honma ROH/NJPW: Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Roderick Strong NXT: Sasha Banks vs. Becky Lynch NXT: Sasha Banks vs. Becky Lynch vs. Charlotte vs. Bayley The G1 will implode my list in august. If it is anything like last years tournament then they will produce at least 4-8 MOTY candidates. Styles/Suzuki last year was absolutely amazing as was Shibata/Ishii. Shibata/Ishii from 2 years ago. holy chit.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on May 24, 2015 16:40:37 GMT -5
If it is anything like last years tournament then they will produce at least 4-8 MOTY candidates. Styles/Suzuki last year was absolutely amazing as was Shibata/Ishii. Shibata/Ishii from 2 years ago. holy chit. I have not seen that one. I only saw their epic from last years G1, it was surreal watching those two beat the out of each other for 20 mins.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2015 16:50:34 GMT -5
He didnt say it was bad, he just meant he thought wasnt a MOTY candidate. I wasn't saying he said that. I've seen some people online say it though and it makes me nearly throw up in my mouth. Because Roman Reigns was in the match and you know when some people see Romans name all over it they automatically assume it's bad because they wanna prove to everyone he didn't deserve his spot.
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Post by hbkowns on May 24, 2015 18:24:21 GMT -5
I'm throwing up in my mouth a little bit reading that some of you think Brock vs Roman is a contender for match of the year Lol. This is me when people say Brock/Roman was bad The match wasn't terrible, but it was wayyyyyy far from anything that's even considered good.
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Post by The Champ is Here! on May 25, 2015 10:37:30 GMT -5
I thought Okada vs Tanahashi from WK9 was amazing as well
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Post by Jonathan Karate on May 25, 2015 10:55:11 GMT -5
This is me when people say Brock/Roman was bad The match wasn't terrible, but it was wayyyyyy far from anything that's even considered good. It told a great story IMO.
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Post by hbkowns on May 25, 2015 12:05:57 GMT -5
The match wasn't terrible, but it was wayyyyyy far from anything that's even considered good. It told a great story IMO. What story? There was no build up to the match whatsoever. What story was there to tell? Roman getting his ass kicked for 15 minutes then coming back with a few superman punches and 2 spears at the end? I think the only reason why people salivate over this match is because Rollins cashed in and won. If it wasn't for that, there would be absolutely nothing about this match worth talking about.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on May 25, 2015 12:13:35 GMT -5
It told a great story IMO. What story? There was no build up to the match whatsoever. What story was there to tell? Roman getting his ass kicked for 15 minutes then coming back with a few superman punches and 2 spears at the end? I think the only reason why people salivate over this match is because Rollins cashed in and won. If it wasn't for that, there would be absolutely nothing about this match worth talking about. Brock being the unstoppable force that can't be beat while the samoan bad ass takes everything he can dish out and keeps getting up making people question if he will do the unthinkable.....i'd say that's a damn good story. Not to mention those two beat the ever loving crap out of each other....how could you not enjoy two guys saying " it lets let it all go out there" for our entertainment...
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Post by The Kevstaaa on May 25, 2015 12:23:24 GMT -5
It told a great story IMO. What story? There was no build up to the match whatsoever. What story was there to tell? Roman getting his ass kicked for 15 minutes then coming back with a few superman punches and 2 spears at the end? I think the only reason why people salivate over this match is because Rollins cashed in and won. If it wasn't for that, there would be absolutely nothing about this match worth talking about. When I rate the match, I mostly take what Brock and Roman did into account.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 12:32:03 GMT -5
Someone I know on another forum did this really great write up of Lesnar/Reigns: "The build to this match was all wrong. This should have been the David vs. Goliath match. Roman was the guy people were chanting for in last year's Rumble as a plea not to give Batista the win. This year, he was in the Batista role... being booed for something they perceived he did not deserve. This was supposed to be his coming out party in his hometown and the fans ed it up. When Brock Lesnar had an expiring contract, most people wanted to watch this match to see the fans reaction. When he signed his contract earlier in the week, it actually left the outcome in doubt and made the match more appealing in the process. Everything about this match was near perfect. First, Reigns busts Brock open on his cheek in about 5 seconds. Brock carries him around, suplex and F5 in the first minute. Brock then takes over for punishment time. At first, it feels like the Cena Summerslam match, an entertaining squash but Reigns has some moments of hope... nasty back elbows to the bloody cheek, punches to the bloody cheek, and two clotheslines that fail to take Lesnar down. A third clothesline is ducked and the SUPLEX CITY beating continues. Lesnar is abusing him but since he has a big red spot on his cheek, Reigns focuses some forearms on the cut. Brock stops him but Reigns sees a small window that he is trying to exploit even if the effort is in vain. One of those forearms gives Brock a small cut on his lip. Now Brock tastes his own blood and starts kneeing Roman in the ribs and dishing out more suplexes. Brock's focus on the ribs and back deserves credit. This isn't just a random squash... this is a guy focusing on a body part with sadistic precision. The replays of those knee strikes are different from nearly every other replay where a guy comes off the top rope or does a dive to the floor. It's boxing knockout level replays and does more to show the brutality of wrestling than anything else. After getting knocked to the flooor, Brock takes too long for an attack and gets stopped by some Roman Reigns knees of his own. He follows this up with nasty knees and kicks to Brock's face and chest. Oh crap! Roman is making a comeback. Did Cena make a comeback ever in the Summerslam match? It doesn't feel like he ever had one hope spot. Roman looks to be gaining momentum but he kicks one too many times, Brock grabs his foot and murders him with a clothesline that leaves him lying helpless on the outside. Brock's mouth is a little more bloody and he starts kneeing Roman and gives him a standard suplex that throws him halfway across the ring. SupleXCity continues and an F5. It's over. Wait... no it isn't. I want to address an issue some people had with this match... Roman smiling at the punishment he was taking. Cena didn't smile. He couldn't. He had no hope. Roman could smile because he had obtained little victories that Cena couldn't. He bloodied the big man. He stopped him once or twice. Brock takes off his gloves and starts smacking Roman down. They show replays of the slaps. I remember when that huge mitt of Brock's covered Frank Mir's face. It felt real and those slaps looked real. Roman's victory was absorbing the punishment that others couldn't. Roman takes a third F5. He kicks out and did what the Undertaker couldn't do in a horrible match last year. he survived three F5s... little victories... reason to smile. Outside, Brock intends to end this and ram Roman into the ringpost. With nearly no hope left, Roman counters and rams Brock into the ringpost busting him open and leaving him a bloody mess in the main event of Wrestlemania. A small glimmer of hope becomes a wide gaping hole of opportunity. Brock has had his bell rung and barely beats a ten count to get inside. Roman hits the superman punch to the bloody face of Lesnar but he won't go down. A second one sends Brock to his knee. A third attempt is blocked but Reigns elbows his way to freedom and headbutts the crap out of Brock's bloody head, something that Michael Cole points out and that I thought would never be focused on in another WWE main event ever by an announcer. A third Superman punch finally sends the Beast to the mat and it feels like a huge victory, not one of the tiny ones he had been accumulating throughout the match. I have to point out the crowd is going batcrap. It is like a ruckus NBA game where the home team was up by 20 with 7 minutes to go but then the other team goes on a 18-0 run to make it a one possession game. The crowd was celebrating the demise of Reigns earlier and now they are a mix of booing the inevitable outcome in their minds and cheering for the Beast to end the McMahon experiment once and for all. A spear doesn't keep Brock down and Roman can't even go for a pin attempt because Brock is immediately trying to climb the ropes to get back up but a second one keeps him down for a nearfall. What was once an impossibility is now very real. Roman can win and the whole crowd believes he will. A third spear... wait... Brock counters with an F5. Seth Rollins music... Money in the Bank Cash in. Smart move by Rollins to have two choices of who he can pin as we'll soon see. He knocks a dead to rights Roman out of the ring, curb stomps Brock once and sets up a final curb stomp to end Brock once and for all... but Brock counters!!! F5... but crap... Roman Reigns gives Brock another spear and saves Rollins. Curb stomp to Roman who gave his last amount of strength to the final spear. I know some people hate this ending but it was the best use of a Money in the Bank cash in to date. It saved a Brock Lesnar pinfall, the pin didn't hurt Reigns after surviving the war and the WWE didn't have Cena Version 2 as champion. Who knows where this horribly booked company will go from here? RAW didn't leave me optimistic. On rewatch, this was just as exciting, sadistic and intense (maybe more so) than the first time I watched it. Both guys were so smart in their strategy within the match and capitalized on little moments that turned the tide. Also, blood does matter and when used right can make a match even more special. I think this may be my favorite Mania match ever and have no problem going out on a limb here.... Five Stars. " I wouldn't go five stars myself but I thought the match was awesome.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 2:06:57 GMT -5
John Cena vs Kevin Owens - WWE Elimination Chamber Seth Rollins vs Dean Ambrose - WWE Elimination Chamber
My new #9 and #10.
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Post by Cameron Stone on Jun 1, 2015 2:12:27 GMT -5
Lesnar vs Cena vs Rollins ReDragon vs Young Bucks
those two are by far the best of the year imo
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 7:34:51 GMT -5
New list:
1. Tomohiro Ishii vs Tomoaki Honma - NJPW New Beginning In Sendai - ***** 2. Shinsuke Nakamura vs Kota Ibushi - NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 9 - ****3/4 3. Becky Lynch vs Sasha Banks - NXT Takeover: Unstoppable - ****1/2 4. John Cena vs Brock Lesnar vs Seth Rollins - WWE Royal Rumble - ****1/4 5. Roman Reigns vs Daniel Bryan - WWE Fastlane - ****1/4 6. Fenix vs Mil Muertes - Lucha Underground - **** 7. Roderick Strong vs Trevor Lee - PWG From Out Of Nowhere - **** 8. Kevin Owens vs John Cena - WWE Elimination Chamber - **** 9. Dean Ambrose vs Seth Rollins - WWE Elimination Chamber - ***3/4 10. Dean Ambrose vs Seth Rollins vs Roman Reigns vs Randy Orton - WWE Payback - ***3/4
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 8:22:04 GMT -5
Almost halfway through the year discussion:
WWE/NXT wise, I think Cena/Rollins/Lesnar is still the winner. Owens/Cena last night along with Lynch/Banks is basically a toss-up right now and I didn't watch last night's main event so I'll have to do that too. NJPW now, but I personally loved Ishii/Makabe probably more than any other match this year so far. There's a TON of choices from New Japan but something about that makes it a personal choice. Okada/Tanahashi also from WK 9 is up there. Nakamura/Ibushi was really great. I'll have to rewatch Ishii/Honma too. PWG for me I can't pick a favorite because I just adore everything equally, plus there's only been two shows released. Sabre/Strong was fantastic though for sure. Still on my "to watch" list is War of the Worlds, Wrestling Dontaku, DDT4 (once that becomes available), and any BoSJ that I decide I wanna watch.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 8:23:04 GMT -5
Update:
January NJPW - Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Kota Ibushi (Wrestle Kindom 9) NJPW - Kazuchika Okada vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi (Wrestle Kingdom 9) WWE - Brock Lesnar vs. John Cena vs. Seth Rollins (Royal Rumble)
February BJPW - Shuji Ishikawa vs. Yuji Okabayashi (2/2) WWE - Sami Zayn vs. Kevin Owens (TakeOver Rival) ROH - AJ Styles & Young Bucks vs. ACH, Cedric Alexander & Matt Sydal (2/14) NJPW - Tomohiro Ishii vs. Tomoaki Honma (New Beginning in Sendai) WWE - Daniel Bryan vs. Roman Reigns (Fast Lane) Dragon Gate - Akira Tozawa vs. Kzy (Champion Gate in Osaka Night 1)
March Dragon Gate - BxB Hulk vs. Uhaa Nation (Champion Gate in Osaka Night 2) EVOLVE - Chris Hero vs. Drew Gulak (EVOLVE 38) NJPW - Kota Ibushi vs. Tetsuya Naito (New Japan Cup Finals) LU - Fenix vs. Mil Muertes (3/18) EVOLVE - Timothy Thatcher vs. Tommy End (EVOLVE 40) WWN - Timothy Thatcher vs. Chris Hero (Mercury Rising) WWE - Brock Lesnar vs. Roman Reigns (vs. Seth Rollins) (WrestleMania 31)
April PWG - Roderick Strong vs. Zack Sabre Jr (Don't Sweat The Technique) Dragon Gate - Amigo Tag vs. Original Jimmys (Korakuen Hall)
May NJPW - Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Hirooki Goto (Wrestling Dontaku) ROH/NJPW - Roderick Strong vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi (War of the Worlds Night 2) WWE - Sasha Banks vs. Becky Lynch (TakeOver Unstoppable) WWE - John Cena vs. Kevin Owens (Elimination Chamber)
Fight Owens Fight.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 8:24:25 GMT -5
Update: January
NJPW - Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Kota Ibushi (Wrestle Kindom 9) NJPW - Kazuchika Okada vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi (Wrestle Kingdom 9) WWE - Brock Lesnar vs. John Cena vs. Seth Rollins (Royal Rumble) FebruaryBJPW - Shuji Ishikawa vs. Yuji Okabayashi (2/2) WWE - Sami Zayn vs. Kevin Owens (TakeOver Rival) ROH - AJ Styles & Young Bucks vs. ACH, Cedric Alexander & Matt Sydal (2/14) NJPW - Tomohiro Ishii vs. Tomoaki Honma (New Beginning in Sendai) WWE - Daniel Bryan vs. Roman Reigns (Fast Lane) Dragon Gate - Akira Tozawa vs. Kzy (Champion Gate in Osaka Night 1) MarchDragon Gate - BxB Hulk vs. Uhaa Nation (Champion Gate in Osaka Night 2) EVOLVE - Chris Hero vs. Drew Gulak (EVOLVE 38) NJPW - Kota Ibushi vs. Tetsuya Naito (New Japan Cup Finals) LU - Fenix vs. Mil Muertes (3/18) EVOLVE - Timothy Thatcher vs. Tommy End (EVOLVE 40) WWN - Timothy Thatcher vs. Chris Hero (Mercury Rising) WWE - Brock Lesnar vs. Roman Reigns (vs. Seth Rollins) (WrestleMania 31) April
PWG - Roderick Strong vs. Zack Sabre Jr (Don't Sweat The Technique) Dragon Gate - Amigo Tag vs. Original Jimmys (Korakuen Hall) MayNJPW - Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Hirooki Goto (Wrestling Dontaku) ROH/NJPW - Roderick Strong vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi (War of the Worlds Night 2)WWE - Sasha Banks vs. Becky Lynch (TakeOver Unstoppable) WWE - John Cena vs. Kevin Owens (Elimination Chamber)
Fight Owens Fight.
You're a damn hero for this list. Keep the updates coming m8.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jun 1, 2015 8:32:57 GMT -5
Updated list
1. Shinsuke Nakamura vs Kota Ibushi - NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 9 2. John Cena vs Brock Lesnar vs Seth Rollins - WWE Royal Rumble 3. Becky Lynch vs Sasha Banks - NXT Takeover: Unstoppable 4. Kevin Owens vs. John Cena - WWE Elimination Chamber 5. Ethan Carter III vs. Rockstar Spud - Impact 6. Divas Fatal Four Way - NXT TakeOver: Rival 7. Roman Reigns vs. Daniel Bryan - Fast Lane 8. Adrian Neville vs. Finn Balor - NXT TakeOver: Rival 9. Angelico, Ivelisse and Son of Havoc vs. The Crew - Lucha Underground 10. Roderick Strong vs. Zach Sabre Jr. - PWG Don't Sweat the Technique
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Post by johnnyaustin21 on Jun 1, 2015 11:19:06 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar .Vs John Cena .Vs Seth Rollins-WWE Title-Royal Rumble '15 Daniel Bryan .Vs Roman Reigns-Fast Lane '15 Brock Lesnar vs. Roman Reigns-WWE Title-WrestleMania 31 John Cena .Vs Neville-US Title-RAW 5/11/15 John Cena .Vs Kevin Owens-Elimination Chamber '15
Right now these five matches are pretty much locks for me being in the top ten WWE matches of the year.Also would add some NXT stuff like Balor/Neville,Women's Four Way and Banks/Lynch as well right now in my top ten.Also think that Reigns/Big Show,Cena/Rusev at Payback and the Four Way Title match at Payback were also very good matches but doubt they make my top ten when the year ends.
Think about doing a top ten WWE match listing,top ten NXT list and then one grand mass up between the two for and offical top ten list.Way to hard for me adding in stuff from ROH,NJPW,TNA,Lucha Underground..ect
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