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Post by The Future on Mar 30, 2015 14:47:46 GMT -5
Between them reportedly signing Joe, scouting guys like Adam Cole and Johnny Gargano and the talent they HAVE that doesn't always get showcased because they don't have ENOUGH TIME (they haven't been developing the guys not signed from the indies quick enough because they want to showcase the new signings). This, along with some call-ups, could ensure their long-term future. An extra hour of programming a month. A chance for guys like Breeze, Corbin and Crowe to grow (because they're given spotlight) along with a more 'WWE'-like schedule. Sure, NXT could stay as it is forever. They could do one taping a month and pump out episodes for weeks, do it again before a blow-off event show, tour a bit, rinse, repeat...but the wrestling industry is about evolving. This gives them a greater platform to evolve. Adding Samoa Joe, Cole, and Gargano would be a huge step. I'd love to see them add more guys like ACH, Kyle O'Reilly, and throw ALL the money at the Young Bucks. Idk, at this point it seems like the Bucks will forever be stuck in limbo...like WWE trying to sign the Briscoes on and off for the last 10 years. Signing new guys from the indies to replenish, home-growing a few more than they have and letting the guys on the roster without enough time spread their wings will be the natural progression when Zayn, Neville, Balor, Owens, Itami, etc. eventually move up. I'd love ACH (as a phenomenal high-flyer, Bourne-meets-Shelton but with tons more charisma than both combined) O'Reilly is a hell of a talent and as a PWG fan I'd enjoy seeing him and Cole sign around the same time.
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Post by A-Rob on Mar 30, 2015 15:20:49 GMT -5
sounds like overkill but NXT hasn't let me down.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 15:40:09 GMT -5
The only downside could be what the roster looks like when Neville, Zayn, and Balor go up to the main roster. I love the current NXT roster but between them and a few tag teams likely to be called up, the roster will have to be replenished soon. Between them reportedly signing Joe, scouting guys like Adam Cole and Johnny Gargano and the talent they HAVE that doesn't always get showcased because they don't have ENOUGH TIME (they haven't been developing the guys not signed from the indies quick enough because they want to showcase the new signings). This, along with some call-ups, could ensure their long-term future. An extra hour of programming a month. A chance for guys like Breeze, Corbin and Crowe to grow (because they're given spotlight) along with a more 'WWE'-like schedule. Sure, NXT could stay as it is forever. They could do one taping a month and pump out episodes for weeks, do it again before a blow-off event show, tour a bit, rinse, repeat...but the wrestling industry is about evolving. This gives them a greater platform to evolve. But are guys like Corbin and other "homegrown" talents going to get over? WWE's insistence on training their built from scratch workers to wrestle "the WWE Style" (read. Like crap) combined with NXT drawing a more indy crowd who expects a certain level of in ring quality from the NXT product can't lead to anything good. The fans will not accept their shiny "super indy" promotion being tarnished by "crapty WWE Guys". And it's not even the performers' fault. It's the company's for training them to wrestle like "crapty WWE Guys" and not giving them the proper freedom in the ring to grow. Hell, Alex Riley, a guy who normally gets big pops, who the IWC generally finds to be underrated and underappreciated as a worker, got completely no sold at NXT's Columbus show because as hard as he works, and as underrated as he is, he still at his core is a "crapty WWE Guy".
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Post by xavion2004 on Mar 30, 2015 15:49:02 GMT -5
I think monthly Pay Per Views stifle the creativity needed to create good television.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Mar 30, 2015 15:53:18 GMT -5
Between them reportedly signing Joe, scouting guys like Adam Cole and Johnny Gargano and the talent they HAVE that doesn't always get showcased because they don't have ENOUGH TIME (they haven't been developing the guys not signed from the indies quick enough because they want to showcase the new signings). This, along with some call-ups, could ensure their long-term future. An extra hour of programming a month. A chance for guys like Breeze, Corbin and Crowe to grow (because they're given spotlight) along with a more 'WWE'-like schedule. Sure, NXT could stay as it is forever. They could do one taping a month and pump out episodes for weeks, do it again before a blow-off event show, tour a bit, rinse, repeat...but the wrestling industry is about evolving. This gives them a greater platform to evolve. But are guys like Corbin and other "homegrown" talents going to get over? WWE's insistence on training their built from scratch workers to wrestle "the WWE Style" (read. Like crap) combined with NXT drawing a more indy crowd who expects a certain level of in ring quality from the NXT product can't lead to anything good. The fans will not accept their shiny "super indy" promotion being tarnished by "crapty WWE Guys". And it's not even the performers' fault. It's the company's for training them to wrestle like "crapty WWE Guys" and not giving them the proper freedom in the ring to grow. Hell, Alex Riley, a guy who normally gets big pops, who the IWC generally finds to be underrated and underappreciated as a worker, got completely no sold at NXT's Columbus show because as hard as he works, and as underrated as he is, he still at his core is a "crapty WWE Guy". I think it's a case by case basis. Like indy guys, there will be a good chunk of WWE "homegrown" talent that won't make it. The real question is how long Vince will saddle upcoming talent with terrible gimmicks and booking. NXT has been phenomenal in significant part to Vince not being involved.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Mar 30, 2015 17:23:04 GMT -5
Give Adam Cole and The Young Bucks whatever they want to come to NXT and they will be fine once Balor, Neville, Itami, Zayn and Owens are called up.
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Mar 30, 2015 17:30:01 GMT -5
More NXT is good, but I would have increased them to bi-monthly instead of monthly. I just don't know about a live show every four weeks.
Hopefully it will work out.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Mar 30, 2015 17:34:45 GMT -5
Can we please keep the Young Bucks far away from my NXT?
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Post by theMOESIAH on Mar 30, 2015 17:35:45 GMT -5
I'm fine with that, it makes complete sense. They are prepping them for the main roster that has a "ppv" every month. Which is also a really bad idea.
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Post by HVMMONS on Mar 30, 2015 17:36:58 GMT -5
I stated this in another thread. I just hope the feuds aren't rushed and thrown together like the main product with TakeOver becoming a monthly thing. NXT feuds are more planned, crafted, taken care of, and BETTER. That's one of the organic advantages NXT has over Raw and Smackdown. Can we please keep the Young Bucks far away from my NXT?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 18:09:26 GMT -5
I'm fine with that, it makes complete sense. They are prepping them for the main roster that has a "ppv" every month. Which is also a really bad idea. Disagree.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Mar 30, 2015 18:15:53 GMT -5
Which is also a really bad idea. Disagree. You think overexposure of the product, with PPVs that get virtually no build is a good idea?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 18:59:47 GMT -5
You think overexposure of the product, with PPVs that get virtually no build is a good idea? I don't see how that is considered "overexposure" and the fact that they get no build sounds like you have an issue with writing as opposed to the yearly PPV structure. I'll agree, I don't always agree with writing either. WWE has had around 12 ppv's a year for quite some time, and around the time they won the Monday Night Wars, that's the number they had. Obviously, the ~12 ppv format has been successful. You can disagree, but you'll likely be in the minority, and satisfying the minority generally doesn't generate $.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 20:03:06 GMT -5
Ehhh...we'll see. It sounded great at first but I'm unsure about it. I think having special events every 2-3 months works better. It's hard to create compelling stories with such limited amount of time (1 hour weekly shows) every month.
However, I adore NXT and getting the chance to see them outshine the main roster 12 months out of the year is fine with me.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Mar 30, 2015 21:18:21 GMT -5
You think overexposure of the product, with PPVs that get virtually no build is a good idea? I don't see how that is considered "overexposure" and the fact that they get no build sounds like you have an issue with writing as opposed to the yearly PPV structure. I'll agree, I don't always agree with writing either. WWE has had around 12 ppv's a year for quite some time, and around the time they won the Monday Night Wars, that's the number they had. Obviously, the ~12 ppv format has been successful. You can disagree, but you'll likely be in the minority, and satisfying the minority generally doesn't generate $. Well one PPV a month is only one part of the overexposure. You've got three hours of Raw, which is too much and Smackdown, which many don't watch. I've had of a lot of people here complain about the being too much. But to your point, that's a minority of a minority. And also your point, I was thinking of a pre-Network world. I'd imagine it's a lot more difficult to quantify overexposure since anyone can watch whatever they want whenever they want to watch it. So my argument is withdrawn.
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Post by King Silva on Mar 31, 2015 3:50:21 GMT -5
I think it should be 1 PPV for every two months but I will for sure see how this goes because so far NXT has been awesome!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 3:53:04 GMT -5
Too much of a good thing isn't a good thing.
To put this in perspective, WWE has 8 hours every week to build up to a ppv. That's 24-32 hours depending on when the PPV takes place. NXT under this new plan will have 4 hours to build up to a ppv. This isn't gonna turn out well.
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Post by The Future on Mar 31, 2015 7:17:20 GMT -5
Guys, just because it has the label of a 'PPV Event' doesn't mean each month needs to be a blow-off for a feud or some huge, otherworldly happening, right?
WWE has these things called 'in-between PPVS' like Battleground, ER, Fastlane, MITB, TLC, etc. They're themed, but they don't have nearly anywhere close to the build as the big 4.
NXT can function the same way. It's not that everything from the past 3-4 weeks has to culminate then. I'm sick of only seeing 1/4th of the roster each taping. This way we're guaranteed to get an extra hour of programming a month, if nothing else. We get a show where more than 1 tag, more than 1 divas match and more than one 'main event' caliber showing can happen.
Stop building this up to mean NXT is shooting themself in the foot. They haven't made a bad decision once so far as it comes to big-time booking. Give HHH and the rest the benefit of the doubt. They have a plan to expand the brand.
I personally can't wait. I don't think every month is gonna be Owens-Zayn, but it doesn't have to be. There's this thing called 'build' and they can still have it with monthly big shows. The more TIME they're given, the better equipped they are to build new stars, give them a showcase. The bigger stage they put them on, the more ready they'll be when they hit RAW.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Mar 31, 2015 7:28:56 GMT -5
I'm going to reserve judgement because NXT is NXT but I feel like having them every month will make it feel less special. I like that NXT is an hour every week and this whole thing screams that Vince saw dollar signs when he actually saw how the crowd reacted at the NXT house shows over Mania week. A special every 3 months gave time for feuds to breath.
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Post by Himmy! on Mar 31, 2015 7:43:02 GMT -5
I loved the specials every few months, not massively keen on this but NXT always delivers. Pressure is on them now.
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